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By:
Total Bosman
When: 10 Jan 19 21:49
Just been missing putts from the get go.  Could be a hangover from Sunday, but that's just sometimes what you get from Gary.  Nice finish from Abraham, normally -2 is a poor round here but scoring not that hot so far so looks OK.
By:
Total Bosman
When: 10 Jan 19 22:03
Jordan is the guy to worry about.  Last season he was poor by his standards, but at the moment he's poor by anyone's standards.  Long way back to the top 10 with so many top quality players making their way up the rankings.
By:
Total Bosman
When: 11 Jan 19 02:21
Been a huge advantage for the late starters, didn't see anything in the forecast to indicate such a big difference.
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Jan 19 19:16
59 upcoming for kuch - time for a forum curse
By:
mengmeng
When: 11 Jan 19 19:30
dam you hank !you did him in
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Jan 19 19:31
haha yeah well, I need him to bugger off as I have layed him
By:
mengmeng
When: 11 Jan 19 20:17
the hole must be looking like a dustbin for kooch this week
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Jan 19 20:23
Yep, hopefully back to normal for the w/e JT seems to be struggling. Leishman prob my best hope right now.
By:
Total Bosman
When: 11 Jan 19 20:28
Leishman and Kuchar reds for me, not been a good half hour.
By:
mengmeng
When: 11 Jan 19 20:30
leishman water
By:
Total Bosman
When: 11 Jan 19 20:57
Draining them all.
By:
Total Bosman
When: 11 Jan 19 21:04
3 hole outs from the fairway for Chez?  Surely not?
By:
mengmeng
When: 11 Jan 19 21:06
chez revie..3 holeouts from fairway this round! madness
By:
Hank Hill
When: 11 Jan 19 21:19
I know Kuch is a fan of a top 10 but not even he will mess this one up. Writing this one off - not a great start to the season for me Sad
By:
mengmeng
When: 11 Jan 19 21:20
his average score around here is about -4 a round so if hekeeps playing his normal game he is gonna be hard to beat. really likes this course by all accounts
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 11 Jan 19 21:37
too early in the tournament to get scared of one player

I know kuchar closed out his last tournament but he has a history of mental fragility.
By:
therhino
When: 12 Jan 19 02:31
Wonder how long Greller keeps his job if Jordan can't turn it around. Way it goes these days. Looks a shell of his former self.
By:
Total Bosman
When: 12 Jan 19 03:49
T55 - MC - MC to start there year.  Always been many more technically gifted players out there but Jordan beat them with mental strength and a superhuman ability to get the ball in the hole when it mattered (usually just after I'd laid him).  If that's gone I don't know how you get it back, not sure a caddy change would do much.  These aren't the tournaments that'll define his career so probably shouldn't over-react but when your greatest strengths are gone and your weaknesses remain it's pretty worrying.
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 12 Jan 19 10:53
greller will get another year. if 2019 is like 2018 for Spieth then most likely he's gone. but I don't think the problem is greller. the problem is Spieth.

still one of the players to beat in the majors. was playing gash going into the 2018 masters and still nearly won it. each-way bet to nothing at augusta for me. came in the top five in four of the last five masters, and either won or went very close to winning on each occasion. even the year he finished outside the top five he was very close to the lead going into the sunday. a standing dish at augusta.

as for this week you could put it down to rustiness, played much better in round two.
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 12 Jan 19 10:59
If that's gone I don't know how you get it back, not sure a caddy change would do much.

slightly over-egging it there bosman, do you really think spiffy is finished? Confused

admittedly his poor form has gone on for longer than most. but part of the problem is what he achieved so young. he set the bar really high for himself.

think his recent woes might come down to having made some of the bigger accomplishments so early, the masters and then the open. winning the two biggest prizes in golf might have lead to a waning of desire, either that or it's the complete opposite and he's trying too hard.

find it hard to believe he won't turn it around in the next few months. a great player can't play badly forever.
By:
jedi sophie
When: 12 Jan 19 11:31
A great player can play badly forever. Or not get to a level they were at previously.

There are plenty around who thought he could not sustain his success the way he hit the golf ball,short game wizard with genius on greens for 5 years,while literally hitting it sideways.

Carried fortune many many times. Too many good players now.

I doubt he gets back to where he was,but I've stated that on here plenty,and he kept winning.
Never dominates that's for sure,never....
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 12 Jan 19 12:57
A great player can play badly forever. Or not get to a level they were at previously.

very rare and in cases where it's happened (baker finch, duval) it's normally happened later in their careers.

there's a saying- form is temporary, class is permanent. very relevant in this case.

and for all the talk of Spieth's poor ball-striking, didn't he lead the tour in strokes gained on approach a couple of seasons ago?
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 12 Jan 19 13:44
Spieth is only 25 and already has 14 wins including three majors. Many would be happy with that as a career.

At his best he compensates for his less than stellar ball striking with excellent course management a great short game and wonderful putting. He had a spell where his putting was phenomenal (think he was holing 25% of 20 - 30 footers at one time) as many said at the time that was never going to continue.

His biggest concern must be his biggest strength - his putting has become his biggest weakness. Last season was a disappointing year only 5 top tens in 24 starts and he must have been disappointed with his final round at the open.

He is still young enough to come again but has to sort his putting if that doesn't happen then he will continue to struggle. He is barely clinging on top the world top 20 and once you start falling it can be hard to stop just look at how Luke Donald fell away.
By:
mengmeng
When: 12 Jan 19 15:33
i am adding Leishman to my bets as i think he is the mostrealistic danger to Kuchar, i dont ancy Putnam to keep it going. Tho Kuchars play does seem to be a carbon copy of Mayakoba so i think he must be feeling very good about his game right now and much more relaxed than he would have been if he hadn't won recently. i get a feeling this could be a big year for Kuchar and that he could get into the form of his life the same way Stricker did a little while back. Even in his interviews he seems much more positive and confident.
By:
bearcub
When: 12 Jan 19 20:21
test
By:
Total Bosman
When: 12 Jan 19 22:14
Lewisham - when I said "If that's gone I don't know how you get it back" I didn't mean I was writing the guy off.  What is I mean is that, more than anyone else since Tiger, Spieth's greatest strength was an X-factor rather than technical excellence.  Not only did he make more chips and  long putts than anyone, but he was more likely to make them the more important they were.  Whatever you call that - mental strength, willing it into the hole, being "clutch" or just pure confidence - it's not something you can learn or teach so I'm not sure how you get it back if it goes.

Of course he can come back, and probably will, but nothing in his game seems good at the moment so he might have further to fall first.  The guys in the top 10 look miles ahead of him and they are improving too.
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 12 Jan 19 23:10
i'd still rather back him for the majors than most of the top ten.

Justin rose, dj, Molinari 1 major each. all mid thirties or older.
jon rahm, Bryson dechambeau, xander, tony finau, no majors.
tony finau only one win on tour which was a play-off against steve marino.

only brooks and rory have equal or more majors. not sure you could say rory is "improving fast"


possibly these are all improving fast or simply that they are in better form?
By:
Total Bosman
When: 12 Jan 19 23:50
Didn't say anyone in particular was improving fast, but I'd say the overall standard required to be in the top 10 is improving due to the strength in depth in the game right now.  Standing still is going backwards right now, let alone getting worse as Jordan appears to be.  Doesn't just apply to him, of course.  Guys like Rickie, Day or even Rory can't take their spot at the top of the game for granted either and need to up their game.

Regarding majors, we'll see.  Maybe Jordan will get his X factor back when it matters most, and I wouldn't rule it out.  But he looks a long way off for now.
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 12 Jan 19 23:59
true that standards are improving all the time.

also motivation plays a factor. two seasons ago we were hearing about how hard matsuyama was working on the game. now it's all dechambeau.

must admit that he seems to have jumped to the top of the list of "most likely person to win a major who hasn't already won a major"


i think when players are working really hard like bryson and getting the results as well a major is not long away. seems to be mentally strong too, and up there pretty much every week. would be surprised if he didn't win a major over the next two years.

the problems seems to be maintaining that motivation over time. with spieth, it seems to have tapered off.
By:
Total Bosman
When: 13 Jan 19 00:04
Agreed, and I guess the motivation goes hand in hand with the enormous rewards they get these days.  It's also probably the case that Spieth has always been so good at every level he's played that he's never faced genuine adversity so this is probably the first time he's had to handle not getting the results he wants.

Agree completely re Bryson, now he's winning tournaments regularly it bodes well for a major.  I'd say the same for Schauffele who's quietly gone past far more famous players and seems to show no nerves when it comes to the business end.
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 13 Jan 19 00:09
Maybe Jordan will get his X factor back when it matters most, and I wouldn't rule it out.  But he looks a long way off for now.

think you are being overly harsh on him though. only a few months ago he nearly won the masters. shot a very low final round, almost a course record, having been god knows how many shots behind and almost written off going into the final round.

at the open he was in the final group. traded as fav during the final round.

ultimately how these players are remembered is how they do in the majors. even last year, his worst year, he still competed well in the majors.
By:
Total Bosman
When: 13 Jan 19 00:09
Funnily enough, Bryson this week seems to be doing something Jordan has made a habit of:  playing pretty mediocre for a couple of days but mounting a charge to still find a way into contention.  Problem for Jordan is you can't mount a Saturday charge at home on the sofa.
By:
jedi sophie
When: 13 Jan 19 00:51
Spiffy love in from LR.Shock.ExcitedLaugh
By:
jedi sophie
When: 13 Jan 19 00:51
Ricky up next.
By:
Hank Hill
When: 13 Jan 19 01:31
Putnam's putter gone cold Sad
By:
Total Bosman
When: 13 Jan 19 01:34
Bryson 63 with 5 missed putts inside 10 feet.  What might have been.
By:
Total Bosman
When: 13 Jan 19 01:50
I'd got over my Keith Mitchell addiction but looks like I'll need to back him every week this year too.
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 13 Jan 19 14:59
Catch Me ifyoucan • January 9, 2019 12:16 AM GMT
Kissire defends, Sneds, Kuchar, Woodland, Frittelli & Poulter on debut & Thomas may come into the equation after RD 1.


Expecting some one to come from the clouds (like last week) and do him Devil
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 13 Jan 19 15:01
THREE 63's and FIVE 64's yesterday, so WIDE OPEN final round
By:
Catch Me ifyoucan
When: 13 Jan 19 15:14
Chez Reavie is the first player on record (since 1983) on the PGA TOUR with three eagles on par-4s in the same round - it's just the fifth time in the last five PGA Tour seasons that a player recorded three eagles in a single round.


Matt Kuchar needs one more T10 finish for 100 in his PGA Tour career. Only 4 players have 100 or more top-10s since Kuchar earned his 1st at the 2001 Air Canada Championship: Furyk, Woods, Mickelson and Singh.
Kuchar is the fifth player in the last ten PGA Tour seasons to open with consecutive 63s or better. Each of the previous four went on to win that week.
Matt has the two lowest 54-hole total scores on the PGA Tour this season: 192 this week and 193 at Mayakoba (won).


MAYBE Marc Leishman or Bryson DeChambeau (nibble both 66's ew 1-2) might give it a go for second place Devil
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