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You're not the only one Total Bosman......i took my stake back at odds that i thought he will go to, based on my prediction on 1st round score. I predicted Hunter would be -3 on the first day. -8 is beyond belief.
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Getting greedy and hoping Leishman can go and join him, good start.
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Leishman already traded......as is Hoffy......both too early by the look of it.
Say if one or both get to -6, what price would Hunter be considering he's an afternoon starter tomorrow. About 5 ? |
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cmon the hoff, post a nice rd this afternoon and go low in the morning. Not too much to ask
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Ladies and gentlemen, Ian James Poulter...
Shot 1 : Shot 1 227 yds to water, 157 yds to hole Shot 2 : Shot 2 Penalty Shot 2 : Drop in right fairway, 167 yds to hole Shot 3 : Shot 3 from the fairway Shot 4 : Shot 4 Penalty Shot 4 : Drop in right fairway, 25 ft to hole Shot 5 : Shot 5 42 ft to water, 62 ft to hole Shot 6 : Shot 6 Penalty Shot 6 : Drop in fairway Shot 7 : Shot 7 0 in. to green, 20 ft to hole Shot 8 : Shot 8 putt 23 ft 7 in., 3 ft 1 in. to hole |
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thats not great is it
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bit happier now, looks like going for Zach may have been the right choice after all
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Scoreboard says 9.....
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Add, ''Shot 9 : Shot 9 putt, finally in the hole, now stop seeking attention in order to sell more trousers Mr Poulter.''
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Follow the bear
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My dad used to drink that stuff Hank. What was it 3.5% or something? Appalling.
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I was too young to drink it KR
a bit of 80s nostalgia though eh |
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Hoff - "I see your 62 and raise you with a 61"
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Hoffy gets to 61.....
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() To think i'd considered going in again 2 hours ago.....decided not to. Very limited trading this week on both tours, compare to last weeks and both are going well, so can't complain. Hopefully, they go onwards and upwards to victory, but with 3 rounds to go, anything can happen. |
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do you aim for a certain amount of profit each week ski? like a set money amount or a percentage of outlay ect? if too nosey sorry just curious
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Team Rhino for the large part struggling. Mahan top 10 looks good but in the winners market, Bubba is flying the flag, and that is all.
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This afficianado decided to lay Keegan @12.16 just before he makes his rare eagle. Not very bright.
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could do with 1 more birdie from zach today, he missed a few shorties already!
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in close on 17 meng
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those are the ones hes been missing hehe. he could have been up with mahan by now, atleast it looks like hes playing well this week, something to hang on to. As does Bubba for you
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Winning score gonna be real low. -20 at least.
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cool thanks for reply, just interested in how you look at is as a trader, for me laying off ect costs me more than it does just letting it ride and taking the losses, but aslong as there is profit at the end of the year we are all happy
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@mengmeng.....just one other tip.....which may help you some day....do not stay betting at the keyboard if you are tired. Tiredness can creep up on you and you make a play you would not normally. And keep the snack or dinner high up on your schedule.Even the old Mars bar if there is necessity.
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luckily i don't sleep, havn't you noticed i post randomly 24 hours a day lol. I bet pre off or inbetween rounds at the most, maybe get involved on the last day inplay if i have nobody in contention or my guy is looking shakey ect but apart from that i just watch, im a backer and not a trader, works better for me profit wise. I guess we all have to find the method that works for us, and im happy with the free time it gives me if i don't feel like sitting and watching the golf ect.
Though watching the golf is usually what i do lol |
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I would further tobe's tip.
If on a Sunday and one been busy on the Euro tour, take a power nap of no more than 30 minutes in your office chair before the PGA tour. |
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I would say we all have different methods on Betfair and most will have some similarities. My method is based on keeping data of what i did then formulate a 'what if' scenario. I.e, what if i didn't green up. In one year i would have lost overall. What if i didn't take any of my stakes back. I would have lost even more.
Hence by researching my own experiences of what i did and the 'what if' scenarios, i now stick to doing what i do without any deviations. |
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office chair? i sit on my bed with a laptop...im organised like that
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In bed........stop watching porns
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yep i did the same ski, when you are not trading its a case of what point do i decide to lay off and the fact that i fancied him to win before the tournie so why would i lay off now that hes obviously in a better position than when he started, so overall i worked out i was better just to leave it and see what happens, sure i get plenty of losing weeks but winning weeks more than make up for it.
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thats why i don't have time to trade ski lol
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Why not lay off?......95% of the times i laid off, i also back again at a higher price with less money but the greens are the same as it was pre-laying off. I lost nothing but gained an increase greens for the field or decreased reds for the field.
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when do i choose what price to lay off at? 10/1 5/1 2/1 evens? no guarentee price will be higher than when i layed off, its just more work and potentially mess profit ect. i dont have lots of greens remember, normally only back 1 or 2 players per tournie
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like now i backed johnson at 50/1 what price should i lay off?
i guess b doing them each way i cover the need to layoff when they are in contention bbecause even top 5 can be 10/1 winner or there abouts |
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When to choose is based on your experiences of understanding golf, the golfers and how odds fluctuate over the 4 days. That's why golf is better than horse racing.
![]() If Tiger Wood played well and leading in the first round i wouldn't lay him off until in running when he starts playing utter crap. In most cases he would go on to win. If Rod Pampling was leading after the first round then i would lay him as his chances of winning is next to zilch. You need to understand golf fully and the more information you have, you can make better decisions. That's the fun of trading.....pitting one's knowledge against the others on here..... |
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true, but i wouldn't be backing someone i thought had no chance of winning so none of that is applicable to my thought process, on occasion i do lay off, for example if i was on Mahan and he was trading at 2/1 or so now i would lay off stake just to put it on someone else as that as to be value, but laying off id certainly the exception rather than the rule. Thats where gamblers and traders differ ofcourse and why betfair can operate
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but why should i get my stake back at the very least, if its @ 5/1 thats like having 5 more losing bets you have to cover if your selection goes on to win. I have a betting bank to cover the losing bets so that i don't need to worry about saving stakes for the next time ect. if i was lucky enough to have 10 weeks where my golfers got to 5/1 and i got my stake back thats alot of money thrown away just to preserve the stakes, providing 1 few win ofcourse
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Yes, i see your point but golf is harder to win when there are over 150 players and only one winner. But the thing is, i trade on over 20 to 50 golfers over the course of 4 days and if i didn't take any stake back, my greens would simple shrink to next to nothing.
Let me put it the other way. If you put £10 on @10 for a profit of £90, why not put £90 @ 10 then lay off @ 9 for a profit of £90. Same profit different methods. First method: low liquidity but 2nd method: higher liquidity = higher fun ![]() |
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and i guess we have just illustrated the difference between traders and gamblers lol. good chat i enjoyed getting your insight in to how you go about it.
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