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cant believe broad keeps getting selected tbh..isnt his father on the selection commitee? especially on these pitches you have to go with finn and if the front 8 batsmen cant make enough on the likely pitch, then its no good relying on the tail
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Will be interesting to see if they bite the bullet or play safe. With Finn in the eleven England could be a shade of value at 4.1, but I'll probably sit tight and see what the pitch is doing before getting involved.
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my 18.37 post, i of course meant draw would be a short price
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broad is a bit untouchable cos of the 1 day set-up and his old-man, i was in sri lanka for the 20-20s and in kandy a lot of the barmy army were saying he was becoming a bit of a prima donna - wasn't he part of the notts clan in the kp text nonsense ? - i think most would have finn in for broad now but i doubt it will happen
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Yep, Broad and Swann's mate with a fake twitter account at KP's expense- that part of the KP episode seemed to be quietly swept under the carpet.
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btw GA- an old mate of mine used to play for Plymouth in the early 80's- Gordon Staniforth- do you remember him or am I showing my age
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bit of a tragic tale surrounding the staniforth family
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Indeed scom. Lovely bloke too
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saw gordon play many many times - a canny goalscorer , up front with tommy tynan took us to the fa cup semi final in 84 - i did hear his son died in tragic circumstances
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blimey, tommy tynan is a blast from the past! Anyway, sorry for going off topic. gl all
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just got in & thought i'd get a bit of qpr at 3.5 with wigans 2 central defenders now out on saturday , but that had long gone ,take me ipad with me in future
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Tommy Tynan. There's a name to send shudders through the thoughts of centre backs. I remember him and Billy Whitehurst being good old-fashioned centre forwards.
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mick harford partnered whitehurst up front somewhere briefly..may even have been at sunderland, not sure if at same time though, but was there ever a more fearsome duo? not talent wise obviously
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tommy had a fascinating career , breaking all scoring records as a schoolboy at liverpool he couldn't quite break through , went to newport where he played up front with john aldridge and outscored him as they got to the 1/4 finals of the cup winners cup , was incredible for us , i recall a game he scored 4 at home park v blackburn (really smithy) - now he's a taxi driver in plymouth - give him the manager's job - give him the no 9 shirt
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i expect most have seen the 1.92 draw at shaktar - i looked at it (for laying) at 2.3 but having read the miracle of castel di sangrio left it alone - you would think that with their recent history juve, well, looks like chelsea are wasting their time anyway , could be an interesting nite at stamford bridge for rafa
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impossible to believe prices like that are down to speculation alone
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thought on a bit and having a speculative interest on shakhtar as follows
the last thing either side will want to see happen is a perceived carve up , particularly juve with their history and the british press sniffing around cos of the chelsea factor, i cant see either side downing tools if they are level until late in the game , maybe after 70 mins - so for at least the first half i reckon both sides will go for it , particularly juve who cant afford to lose , and a close high scoring game may happen - the ludicrously low 3-3 price indicates this as a possibility therefore with possible early goals i'm taking a small interest in AOS at 22 and will look to trade out in-play |
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jeez - have you seen the arsenal price - and i traded out around 2.6 - is there such a word as undertimimg ?
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i think arsenal at 4 almost look like a back now - the kids are looking for a go in the 1st team & have been v impressive in the cola cola cup - i've taken arsenal 3-2 at 50 & the greeks 3-2 at 38
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just seen the draw in india 2.74 - at that price i may give it a lay tonite, will look aagain later - 2.6 or less and I'm on for sure
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might just have to lay a little of the 3-3 and a bigger lay on 2-2, i can see a prearranged fix, its too high profile and just takes one pair of loose lips, however the players may themselves take it upon themselves to play out a goalless draw, or even 1-1. its harder to see a manipulated 2-2, 3-3 imo
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scom i dont think anyone would risk arranging a result as such these days - people have gone to prison & its not quite the italian way to be so obvious, a 0-0 where the game died early in the 2nd half would really look too awful & would have consequences beyond this game
certainly a 1-1 is v possible but for me a 2-2 is more likely, of course we will never know but I reckon if there are any tacit "discussions" anywhere they would go along the lines of, well lets play a "normal" game , but of course if near the end both sides are able to obtain a point this is a good result for both clubs , from an italian perspective there is nothing "wrong" with this approach |
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sorry typo in my post..it should have said ''I CANT see a prearranged fix''
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wasnt there a game last season where it looked an obvious draw and 2-2, and 3-3 were so incredibly short they just had to be laid
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i think it was the euros?
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Spain-Croatia game SCOM if not mistaken
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yeah that was the one
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hand up if you got out of arsenal trade a WAAAYYY to early. got out at 3.3 :(
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got me 2.88 olympiakos yesterday lunchtime and traded out at 2.6 - job done - but now they're odds on !
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Last World Cup Mexico v Uruguay a draw suited both and went off shade over Evens.
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switched the radio on - india 3 down - the draw is surely 4 plus - no - 2.64 - i'll have some of that !
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3.5 now
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with the draw now odds against in shakhtar i'm not sure why juve aren't faves - there's only 1 side that HAVE to avoid defeat , ie if its a "real" match then they cant risk being level with 10 mins to go
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well done jimmy - that draw 3.6 has surely gotta adjust to 4
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almost 4.0 now, iv took a punt on england at 3.3, i reckon india made the pitch look a lot worse than the score suggests, and im convinced theres at least one huge innings in this match..step forward england
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i agree SCOM I think our spinners are better , & cook & peterson are as good as any of their batsman , batting last is a worry but if we get 100 ahead in the 1st innings it should be enough - with 4 days of 90 overs to come, just can't see how it can be a draw
talking of draws , the shakhtar draw is staying odd against so is it fixed or not ? - if not i think juve should be marginal faves, and i still think there may be goals as it suits both sides to show that it isn't a fix - what happens in the last 1/4 of the game well thats another matter |
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i suppose i could secure a green as england now into 3.0, but im just going to let it run
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touching 4 now , with a .4 shift you can trade in play even when they're not playing
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england have been rightly v popular at 2.92 at eden gardens
may be a trade brewing on sunday real betis 11 v barca , messi looks v unlikely to recover when carried off tonite , betis (sevilla game excepted) are a dour resilient side esp at home beating real 1-0 a couple of weeks back , may come in to single figures |