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By:
SirFresh
When: 23 Nov 12 16:19
Fellaini is suspended which everyone knew about as soon as he was booked last week. The drift is because Everton are likely going to have to line up with Jagielka right back with Duffy partnering Heitinga in the middle. Barkley may also have to start in midfield/off the striker.

I'm sure Pardew has already ruled out HBA for 2 weeks...Cisse has a good chance of playing but back up Shola Ameobi will likely be missing.
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 23 Nov 12 16:31
One of the fundamental rules of gambling is that you should bet at the best available odds. The time at which those become available on football matches will differ from team to team and market to market. This means that the timing of a bet can have a significant impact on profit or loss over a season.

When betting opened on a 2006 World Cup tie, the following prices were available on Betfair: 1.72 Germany, 3.8 the draw and 6.4 Poland. As the referee blew his whistle to kick off, they were rather different: 1.46 Germany, 4.9 the draw and 8.6 Poland. The example illustrates how in general the prices available for favourites are likely to shorten as kick-off nears while those for outsiders are likely to lengthen.

It follows that if a strong team are being offered at a good price, bettors should get on as quickly as they can. If a weak team are being offered at a good price, wait. They are likely to be available at a better price later on. A large number of bets are placed shortly before kick-off and most of them, naturally enough, are on the most fancied competitors.

In non-result markets - bookings, corners etc - the best policy is nearly always to bet early. These are the markets in which bookmakers are most likely to have radically different opinions and someone will be wrong.

The first bookmaker to release prices in a market will not know if they are very different from those of every other bookmaker. As other bookmakers release their prices, the initial bookmaker gradually becomes aware their odds are out of line and they have made a mistake. As time goes on, out-of-line prices tend to disappear.

Professional gamblers say betting at the best available odds can be the difference for them between profit and loss over a campaign. Every punter can profit from this knowledge by betting at the right time.
By:
malky1
When: 23 Nov 12 16:32
yes do the same myself sweet on the horses, i used to back and lay blind before race lost more than i won, i like to follow the big trainers ie nicholls, henderson. mcain when they hit form.

i think mo farrah is a great price at 7 its seems geared up for him to win.
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 23 Nov 12 16:42
didnt realise he was that big tbh, he looks an each way bet to nothing...he cant be out of the first three
By:
malky1
When: 23 Nov 12 16:45
hes 1.3 for top 3 on betfair,
By:
I.quit.my.country
When: 23 Nov 12 16:50
Oh i thought I read injured, my mistake with Feillani. But you see the regular punter (myself included) doesn't get this info until now when the previews are published. So Sir Fresh you know a bit about Everton, get in there quick and reap the rewards.

We all know getting the best price is the difference between winning and losing. Afterall, we can only hope for 105-110%  ROI when straight betting. The markets the bookies spend least time are often the most profitable, but then they are also the least liquid.
By:
SirFresh
When: 23 Nov 12 17:05
IQMC - I'd argue that the people who place footy bets days before the game are likely to be more clued up than the regular punter. The Everton drift has had nothing to do with Fellaini, imo, and more to do with other injuries.
By:
hejik
When: 23 Nov 12 17:16

Nov 23, 2012 -- 12:05PM, SirFresh wrote:


IQMC - I'd argue that the people who place footy bets days before the game are likely to be more clued up than the regular punter. The Everton drift has had nothing to do with Fellaini, imo, and more to do with other injuries.


agree SirFresh
but, could still see some more tomorrow because of it when the Saturday mugs come out to play

By:
ShaneESP
When: 23 Nov 12 17:21
scom you should credit Kevin Pullein for that article, he gets nothing but stick on this forum and needs all the help he can get despite often speaking sense.
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 23 Nov 12 17:23
ssshhh shane im carrying out an experiment (its a long story lol)  Wink
By:
ShaneESP
When: 23 Nov 12 17:24
ok Laugh sorry
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 23 Nov 12 17:26
Cool
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 23 Nov 12 17:56
greened up my india/eng draw lay at 7.0, i'll trade out the bangla draw lay when its a minimum 4.0
By:
green army
When: 23 Nov 12 19:58
having a v close look at the weather tomorrow - looks a bit like the day after tomorrow coming in from the west from lunchtime

what effect will this have - maybe not too much, but even at prem clubs saturated pitches subject to further downfalls plus galeforce winds throughout the game, well my preference is for villa 5.1 v arsenal plus 0-0 - 18.5 and 1-0 - 21 - arsenal games away from the emirates are below average goals so these prices look too high anyway

maybe even a little back of qpr at these prices with the wind and rain a factor & a backs to the wall job & harry maybe attending ?

and starting to lay my roma at pescara 0-0 at 28/29 backed at 34/36 so maybe roma are gonna play a keeper
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 23 Nov 12 20:08
maybe sunderland to win 1-0 at 9.6 is a little on the high side
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 24 Nov 12 06:17
bangla draw now trading at 10.5 Cool
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 24 Nov 12 06:35
sorry make that 15.5 Wink
By:
roadrunner46
When: 24 Nov 12 08:28
its about time arsenal gave some team a tonking
away from home, just hope jack wilshire has
recovered from the midweek game.
By:
roadrunner46
When: 24 Nov 12 08:29
its about time arsenal gave some team a tonking
away from home, just hope jack wilshire has
recovered from the midweek game.
By:
stickon
When: 24 Nov 12 08:41
Morning all
Can anyone see a scenario where the Test match is a draw?
I laid the draw early doors and can easily get out with good profit but I'm sooooo tempted to hang on

Managed to back Leeds last night at 3.1 and 3.05
Now about 2.9 and I'm expecting maybe 2.8 or 2.75
Always seem to shorten and with new owners and a couple of new loanees I think there will be money for them
By:
smithy91
When: 24 Nov 12 08:59
stickon- tbh i don't really know what i'm doing with cricket but as i wake up just as lunch is starting on the first day there seems to either a few wickets fall or a decent run total which makes the draw drift out. apart from bad weather which is highly unlikely in india i can't really see how the draw could come in for the first two hours play. if anyone could explain that would be helpfulGrin
By:
smithy91
When: 24 Nov 12 09:15
well guys common sense has previaled a day early in swansea vs liverpool . liverpool 2.14 out to 2.24 brilliantGrin
By:
smithy91
When: 24 Nov 12 09:20
considering west brom drifted from 3.1 to 3.25 to come out with -£17 all round loss i'm delightedHappy.

if anyone wants to lay odemwingie to score anytime at 3.9 please do so i can green upLaugh
By:
smithy91
When: 24 Nov 12 09:53
guys i can't believe my blackburn team are odds against to beat millwall. the market is seriously underestimating us here millwall are available to at 4 which is awesome value they should be 9/2 and some nutter backed at 3.7Cry. GET ON!
By:
smithy91
When: 24 Nov 12 09:59
my football match has been called off so i may go down to ewood park and trade this from the stands unbelievable value on us!Grin
By:
smithy91
When: 24 Nov 12 10:09
blackburn incoming now people are watching the threadSilly
By:
no moves
When: 24 Nov 12 10:14
Cricket is the the most boring game in the world, if you suffer deppresion and begin to feel suicidal while watching it do not consult your doctor, these feelings are quite normal.

Long term addiction could leave you with brain damage and has been linked to schizophrenia.
By:
smithy91
When: 24 Nov 12 10:19
^^^^^Laugh yeh i just prefer to green up as i switch the tv on then change channel to footballLaugh
By:
smithy91
When: 24 Nov 12 10:25
blackburn lighting up blue on oddschecker books cutting to 10/11 no wonder mugwall will get smashed todayGrin
By:
smithy91
When: 24 Nov 12 11:35
Fixtures 24 November / Sunderland v West Brom / To Score  Steven Fletcher Back 23602873896  24-Nov-12Grin
12:19    2.68 48.00  2.68 24-Nov-12 12:19   

Fixtures 24 November / Sunderland v West Brom / To Score  Steven Fletcher Back 23602428549  24-Nov-12
12:06    2.64 100.00  2.64 24-Nov-12 12:13 

Fixtures 24 November / Sunderland v West Brom / To Score  Steven Fletcher Lay 23602206792  24-Nov-12
11:59    2.58 50.00  2.58 24-Nov-12 12:03 

Fixtures 24 November / Sunderland v West Brom / To Score  Peter Odemwingie Lay 23599865268  24-Nov-12
10:12    3.7 100.00  3.7 24-Nov-12 12:06
By:
kenilworth
When: 24 Nov 12 12:28
smithy91 Joined: 01 Mar 10
Replies: 3857 24 Nov 12 11:09   


blackburn incoming now people are watching the thread

How vain can one get ?

The market is watching !!  LOL
By:
hejik
When: 24 Nov 12 12:29
possibly tongue in cheek kenilworth i think.
if not then the idea that prices shift following the "cutting edge" analysis on this thread is deluded at best!
By:
kenilworth
When: 24 Nov 12 12:34
hejik, I don't believe it is tongue in cheek, the thread is
saturated with his vanity.
By:
green army
When: 24 Nov 12 13:33
sorry - laying the draw
By:
no moves
When: 24 Nov 12 13:48
This weeks tip, lay Everton at 1.5.

I didn't do very well with this, just backed them at 1.51, disapointing seeing that they were 1.55/1.56, yesterday.

I still do not believe they will defeat Norwich this afternoon, I won on lasts weeks trade but I'd have won a lot more if I hadn't traded and just let the bet run.
By:
kenilworth
When: 24 Nov 12 14:04
for me today well walsall v hpools nothing has happened
villa in from 5.1 to 4.8 & more to come - look out the window
norwich 25 traded at 24
and will be backing the draw in india again tonite
otherwise keeping a close eye on the weather for tomorrow's games - could be a bit of a leveller

green army Joined: 15 Oct 05
Replies: 622 24 Nov 12 14:33   


sorry - laying the
draw 


Anyonemake sense of that post ? nor me.
By:
kenilworth
When: 24 Nov 12 14:18
for me today well walsall v hpools nothing has happened  Eh?
villa in from 5.1 to 4.8 & more to come - look out the window  Eh?
norwich 25 traded at 24
and will be backing the draw in india again tonite
otherwise keeping a close eye on the weather for tomorrow's games - could be a bit of a leveller

green army Joined: 15 Oct 05
Replies: 622 24 Nov 12 14:33   


sorry - laying the draw

Backing the draw...laying the draw  Eh? At the same time ?

I think you should get your 8 year old to do your
posting methinks.
By:
Bridgeboy
When: 24 Nov 12 14:24
Whats not to understand Ken? He said back the draw then corrected himself by saying lay the draw. . .I dont understand why you keep posting on this thread you never have anything to contribute just constantly slate it, why do you waste your time?
By:
kenilworth
When: 24 Nov 12 14:29
Bridgeboy, this has nothing to do with you,
but your comments have been noted. Thank you.
By:
green army
When: 24 Nov 12 14:33
i know bridge - never offers anything - kenny you're blocked - others have already done this
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