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That alone is poor practice.
But they then suspended his account and refused to engage in correspondence. Personally I am surprised at that. There is either more to the story or Betdakk have taken a funny turn. |
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If everything is as you say, all you need to do is take them to court and sue for your winnings. With that sort of money involved, why on earth wouldn't you?
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Now all this, if true, really is all a bit of a turn up.
Really does throw the cat into the pigeons. BF must be positively salivating, which is probably in no punter's favour tbh. |
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This really is disgraceful.
How can anyone do business with these Johnnies? Closed account. |
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Hard luck man looks like you've been royally screwed over by them.
From what you've said I'd take a guess that they are seeding alot more markets than people think and that one of their bots went a bit haywire on this occasion and allowed you to take of advantage the prices. I'd be looking to see if there was significant price changes on whatever site they use to price their markets during this period and if so it would easily explain their bot throwing up odd prices. |
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The thing is MP, who or what's to say it won't happen repeatedly to anybody else, equally as innocent as the OP apparently is ?
As someone else said on here, is it a case of if it looks too good to be true then it probably isn't true. If so, then it all becomes a bit iffy and subjective, doesn't it ? Not a scenario I would like to be betting in tbh . |
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sideshowbob 06 Jul 11 10:57
"i wont get paid, the matter is closed and i have no intention of following it up" Anyone else smell a rat here? Someone has supposedly been screwed out of several k and he won't do anything about it  Despite gambling wagers being legally binding |
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Yeah i know what you mean Frogs.
I do minimal betting with them these days tbh and after reading this thread i'll prob continue to do so. |
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Turtle
Apparently he's too busy doing up his flat. Bit hard to believe tbh. But the rest of the story does seem to check out superficially at least, don't you think ? |
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Yes, as stated previously the amounts matched are there for all to see.
But anyone who has acted honestly would certainly take the matter further, unless he has so much money that he simply doesn't care. My bet would be on money laundering. |
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no way would i give up a £2-£3K green position on a market without
a fight. sounds totally unlawful what they've done if true. |
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Btw I also think he can lie. Why this thing happen right now when everyone started to talk about ****? Is Betfair afraid and just make some false-reports!?!? I know a lot of people betting on **** no one ever said something about account closures.
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It would be, if everything he says is true and he is not missing anything out. Which makes Froggy and myself think that all is not what it seems...
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to Lix.
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lol people are so naive.
if you think im a betfair plant then read my views on the premium charges. if you think im lying then look at the money matched, it was high as other people verified when i posted this. and now almost all of the money matched has gone, because of voided bets. yes i had thousands green, but not a huge amount to me. significant, but not huge. not sure overall but probably 5k. i am busy with so many different things. i didnt want to say earlier, but i dont have any screenshots of the bets so my evidence is virtually zero. i have taken screenshots now of my new current positions and bets in case they dont refund me on those. most are reds, but still should have significant returns ie one division is red for hundreds on the teams likely to win it, but red for thousands on teams who have next to no chance. if they dont repay that money when the bets end, then i will take legal action. im not being funny but people have different situations. i have plenty of money in the bank to not worry about what has happened, whereas i have lots of health issues and stress. plus extra stress right now from doing my flat up like i said.i dont see the point in making my life even more stressful unless absolutely necessary. |
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lol, so a company has "supposedly" ripped you of for thousands, and you "don't need the stress" about getting it back.
I can't imagine you are very successfull with your betting if you are prepared to wave goodbye to such big sums without a fight when they have "supposedly" been taken from you illegally. You would prefer to do your flat up instead of reclaiming what is rightfuly yours.  What a total load of cobblers. |
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ok so if youre so smart dickhead, how come there was 220k or whatever it was matched when i started this thread, and now theres 8k matched on it? come on clever ****
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let me guess, it was taken by the money matched fairies?
**** this, believe what you want to believe. bet with them, get screwed over, then cry about it cos youre broke. i dont give a ****. |
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Timing of this story is very unfortunate for betdack and oh so convenient for Betfair. Isn't that a coincidental piece of luck for this exchange and bad luck for its main competitor. In the 7 years I have been reading this forum i've never heard the name of betdack blackened so much as I have on this thread.
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Sideshow
I wouldn't go so far to say that you are making all this up to blacken the rep. of a BF competitor. But I do, however, find it very hard and, tbh quite astounding, that any such competitor would act in such blatant self-interesed manner, particularly at this specific moment in time. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot wouldn't even come close to describing such an action. |
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the point is it isnt my money, if it was my money of course id ****g sue them. but its not. its theirs. their system **** up offering wrong prices, i took advantage and they welched on it. its as simple as that. i havent lost anything. im still in the same position as i was beforehand. im a gambler, things go right and things go wrong. christ ive lost 5k on one bet before now. im not going to cry over a bookie welching on 5k that was never mine in the first place.
sorry for trying to help people, by warning them about what goes on there. jeez fook mi. see this is why people never bother saying anything, and why bookies keep getting away with treating punters like ****. cos nobody believes them. i suppose the fact sid janes and b365 have banned me for winning too much is made up to is it? bookies love punters, cos theyre as thick as some of you here have shown. you believe in the ****g tooth fairy too no doubt. |
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and fwiw i think the betfair premium charge is an absolute disgrace.
i said as much on the other thread. betfair plant?? idiots. fkn idiots. |
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ive bet with them about 2 years without a problem. im not saying everything is wrong. if you bet normally you probably will never have a problem.
but if theres prices that are out of line, and you take them. expect to be accused of fraud. have your account suspended. have your bets voided. have you account closed. without them ever even being willing to speak to you at any stage. if thats the type of company you want to bet with, then good luck with that. believe it, dont believe it. i dont care. people on this thread saw the amount matched was over 200k when i started this thread, now its less than 8k. if that isnt proof i have no idea what is. ive had enough of talking about this its doing my head in now, in the words of their "customer service" No further correspondence will be entered into in this matter. |
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Calm down SSB :)
I can understand you not wanting any hassle, nobody wants hassle, but if it was me I would take this as far as I could without spending too much time on it. If all you did was take the bets on offer, then the fact is you've been screwed over, please don't let them get away with that without some sort of fight. Perhaps punters who've been in similar situations can list a course of action you should take, i.e. contacting betting authorities, legal bods, etc, and perhaps some media would be interested in the story. You mustn't just roll over SSB. |
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What I personally find strange is that there is no mention of this case in the Betquack forum and no mention in this thread of being banned in the forum ...
Why giving the punters over here a warning and not to the punters over there? |
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Several years ago on here there was a horse racing market where when of the horses was a definate non-runner. It had a reduction factor of zero. Someone's robot did not read the reduction factors and thought there was an overbroke book. A huge amount was bet overnight compared to usual. I cannot remember if Betfair voided the market in the morning or not. Sounds similar to this. Anyone remember the case?
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http://www.geekstoy.com/forum/showthread.php?p=59108#post59108
I suggest you may want to read carefully this thread and stop speculations about ****! |
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I'm with Bob - there are more important things than money, especially when it
was still in the pot. His story seems to be totally genuine in my opinion. You all saw the matched figures at the purple place... and their disappearance. He either has a crystal ball or he's telling the truth. Good luck with yer flat Bob. |
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i can easily believe ssb.
anyone who has traded any cricket and built up a healthy green only for the match to be tied or built up a zero liability green on the jolly romping home in a tennis match, only for them to pick up an injury and retire (unless it's that sl@g azarenka) probably doesn't find it too unfamiliar or uncomfortable to walk away from "lost profit". the values required to really sting are of course dependent on the individual's normal betting stakes. |
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DStyle
Surely the real debate here is as to why he lost it ? There's a pretty question on the basic honesty of the exchange operators invoved here. Don't you agree with that ? |
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it wouldn't surprise me if they are seeding their own markets: they're just acting like any other bookmaker would.
i'm just saying that i don't see any reason to doubt him based on the fact he's reluctant to persue. |
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It does look like a genuine story to me.
I'll still be using betduck whenever possible though. Either run the risk of getting screwed by betduck once. Or getting screwed by betfair every week. A no brainer for me. |
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WHat mean getting screwed ? Are you reading what I wrote? No one is screwed actually!!!!!
http://www.geekstoy.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5709 This guy took 9k From Betdakkk. They suspended the market and after that they honored his bet! Come on what about read what I write?! |
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Anti advertisement doesn't work when its not fully true FHA?!
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Oh excuse me! He took 18k out of them!
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OK, true.
Screwed probably the wrong word. Took advantage of betducks (or a valued customers) mistake and had their account closed because of it. The HS do it all the time. But if someone makes a mistake on an exchange and lays at well over the odds then it should stand. I'm sure we've all cocked up at times and I wouldn't expect to be refunded. |
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ssb - if you dont want to take it any further how about i do it on your behalf and we go 50/50 on what we get back
I've been told my job is relocating abroad and i'm not going with it so not only will i need some money i will also have time on my hands  |