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By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 14:29
toorah.
By:
Grumpy Albert Einstein
When: 09 Oct 08 14:42
TOTGA.... you have a lot of selections and i cannot fathom the common denominator.
Excellent strike rate, if as you say you are new to racing
Keep it going and best of luck
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 14:44
Grumpy, ive never been a fan of Horse Racing but always felt there was potential laying horses, there is a method in my madness and i do record and research results from a selection of horses that fit the criteria.

So far it has been an excellent laying system but it is inevitable that i will hit a loser, hopefully i will hit more winners than losers though! :-)
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 14:54
£150 Tenor De Balme @ 12.0
Wincanton 4.05pm
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 15:01
Tenor De Balme out to 21's now!!
By:
Grumpy Albert Einstein
When: 09 Oct 08 15:13
you're moving the prices now!!
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 15:14
£150 On Spec @ 9.6
Southall 4.15pm
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 15:15
lol Grumpy, would of been an excellent trade earlier, the BF SP waS 31.0 i think, where i layed at 12.0!!!!!
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 15:19
On Spec BF SP was 6.4! maybe i am having an affect on the price movements!!!
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 15:22
£150 Rhadegunda @ 3.7
Newbury 4.25pm
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 15:29
£150 Shake The Barley @ 5.1
Wincanton 4.35pm
By:
Grumpy Albert Einstein
When: 09 Oct 08 15:29
remarkable strike rate considering the smaller odds you now seem to be selecting, still cant fathom your criteria!!!
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 15:31
24/24 so far, 18/18 on the horses, shake the barley lay may be risky though!!
By:
jeski
When: 09 Oct 08 15:36
good stuff totga, well done
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 15:42
cheers jeski, shake the barley's another winner!!
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 15:44
£150 Iron Maid @ 7.0
Southall 4.45pm
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 15:45
Sorry, error on Iron Maid, price was 6.0 not 7.0, slippy fingers!!
By:
Grumpy Albert Einstein
When: 09 Oct 08 15:52
wd on the quarter of a century, not out
By:
Dont Follow Me
When: 09 Oct 08 15:52
Well done again totga, been following both your threads with interest
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 15:53
£150 Hills Of Aran @ 11.0
Newbury 4.55pm
By:
jeski
When: 09 Oct 08 15:59
another winner!
are you running a syndicate by any chance totga...lol
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 16:01
lol, i can if you want to but it would probably be the kiss of death!!
By:
jeski
When: 09 Oct 08 16:06
shame about footsoldiers losing other peoples money, been reading through most of this thread today since being brought back up and there are some useful bits of info and advice.
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 16:08
Totally agree Jeski, There is alot of advice on the threads he has been involved in, cant understand how he lost all that cash, must of got too greedy at some point?!
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 16:11
Roznic was the next lay at 5.1, but have after-timed again!

Wont be including that but will defo be making a note of how close it finished!
By:
Grumpy Albert Einstein
When: 09 Oct 08 16:13
I think he lost the bulk on a rangers away game in europe, first proper lay at a massive price and they won, then chased. Thats the only problem with laying like this, the moment you decide to go for real cash, it bites you
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 16:17
No more bets for today.

Results 27/27 100%
Horses 21/21 100%
Others 6/6 100%

Total Profit £4050 less commish

Total £3847.50 :-)
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 16:26
too right grumpy, im not sure if i could ver play with a liability so high, although if you can get an excellent strike rate. it certainly could be the route to riches.

Self Discipline is required, but imagine laying something at 20.0 or 30.0 for £150 and it winning, that would be pretty devastating.
By:
Grumpy Albert Einstein
When: 09 Oct 08 16:39
Yes I agree, TOTGA, thats why I am using a version Of Maria's staking plan, I am prepared to lay upto 20.0, providing I can Maintain a strike rate in excess of 88% - which is the hard bit. A winner at that price will only set you back a bit, and I would be looking to return an investment of approx 7% per week.
So far I am 13/14 (92%) though far too early to assume that rate will maintain, and my winner has not affected the bank too much.

Every winner will subject me to reviewing/refining my selection process if necessary, however if the strike rate remains healthy I won't be rushing to change things.

Slow, steady profits, methodical selections and a strategic money management plan are my way forward as i doubt i could handle the stress of £1k liabilities with every bet!!
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 16:45
Do you have a link to Maria's staking plan, i did look at it a few months ago and think i printed the staking plan off but not sure what i did with it!

Would be interested to see what liabilities she layed too and also see her strike rate?

There was talk on another thread that the only reason she was so succesful is because she layed so many of the horses at prices below SP but would love to have a look through her stats etc.
By:
Grumpy Albert Einstein
When: 09 Oct 08 17:00
It was on expert betting advice. but I think it is no longer available.

If you google Fred 77, I'm sure you'll be able to read old betfair threads on the subject.
She layed a percentage (small) of her bank dependent on odds - (1%, 0.6% and 0.4% if i remember correctly)

In her first few weeks she struggled and was up and down, perhaps that was her losing streak, but she went from 49k to 100k in three weeks with a remarkable run( perhaps that was her winning streak)

Hope you find what you want
By:
Grumpy Albert Einstein
When: 09 Oct 08 17:03
As for laying at below SP, i can understand where people are coming from, but the fact that we are on Footsoldiers thread it is worth remembering one of his quotes, if we are convinced that an event will lose does it matter on that event if we lay over SP?

I'm not saying we should be laying bad value, btw
By:
Grumpy Albert Einstein
When: 09 Oct 08 17:41
Just 2 tonight at GL

Taboor 720 @ 8.0
Fantasy Princess 920 @ 11.0
By:
johnizere
When: 09 Oct 08 17:53
http://www.thestakingmachine.com/maria.php

this what you're looking for?
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 18:44
Cheers John, do you know a link to the thread that she had aswell?
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 18:47
(28) £150 Lay Junhui v O'Sullivan (IP) @ 3.45
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 19:27
(29) Lay Over 4.5 goals Torquay v Oxford (IP 1-0 40mins) @ 9.0
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 19:37
(30) £150 Lay Hamilton v Thornto IP @ 4.2
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 20:27
(31) Lay Davis v Selby @ 8.0
By:
The One That Got Away
When: 09 Oct 08 20:56
(28) £150 Lay Junhui v O'Sullivan (IP) @ 3.45 WON
(29) Lay Over 4.5 goals Torquay v Oxford (IP 1-0 40mins) @ 9.0 WON
(30) £150 Lay Hamilton v Thornto IP @ 4.2 LOST
(31) Lay Davis v Selby @ 8.0

29/30
Profit £4350 less commish = £4132.50
Loss £150 @ 4.2 = £480

Total P@L (2 Days) +£3652.50
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