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By:
wilson
When: 09 Nov 09 22:40
Hope you were on tonight.
By:
Wedged
When: 09 Nov 09 22:56
That must be damn near the 100k after this weeks footy?
By:
JPG
When: 09 Nov 09 23:11
"Viva La Draw"

Viva sold @ 83.0 draws.

263 matches left, 22 draws already happened.

New quote: 88.8 :)
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 10 Nov 09 15:08
enjoy your winnings. ;-)
By:
Do wah Diddy
When: 10 Nov 09 15:12
BE A MERLIN AND TAKE THE MONEY,DONT END UP LIKE MICKEY MOUSE THE SAUCERERS APPRENTICE,, YOUVE PROOVED YOUR POINT AND TAKEN THEM TO THE CLEANERS ,DONT GIVE THEM IT BACK
By:
JPG
When: 10 Nov 09 19:03
viva el presidente! 10 Nov 16:08

enjoy your winnings.


:)
By:
The Magician (100)
When: 10 Nov 09 21:03
missed the liverpool game....

was stuck at work

oh well....
By:
The Magician (100)
When: 20 Nov 09 21:13
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By:
The Magician (100)
When: 20 Nov 09 21:20
Well well well....

missing the liverpool draw ( stuck at work) was costly.

that makes the PnL impact of missed games +25820, ie I should be 25820 more infront.

real PnL is +71820. (shown below)

making implied challange PnL +98,320

......

so - do I stop;

1) now?
2) When theroretical 100K is reached
3) when actualy 100K is reached.

would be so dissapointing to drop back to nothing, sitting just 1.7% off target???

I'm thinking need to get actual to 100K
By:
buzzer
When: 20 Nov 09 21:22
i can see four draws over the weekend
you're in a position now to set a stop loss, go down to 50k and knock it on the head, or break through the barrier. Good luck
By:
The Magician (100)
When: 20 Nov 09 21:24
ok buzzer...

on your call I will continue to the actual target...

go draws
By:
The Magician (100)
When: 21 Nov 09 13:36
good call BUzzer.... draw 1 done
By:
frames
When: 21 Nov 09 13:49
Scoop 6 winner,bonus winner ,betting £5k on draws for an interest.Just one question ,what on earth are you doing stuck in work ?
By:
Wiped-out
When: 21 Nov 09 13:55
Fair markets IMO....
By:
frames
When: 21 Nov 09 15:03
And another 600k scoop winner ,well done.Surely you can pack in work now ?
By:
puma
When: 21 Nov 09 15:20
he won the scoop again?

lol, well done magician...
By:
thetitan
When: 21 Nov 09 15:38
3 1-0's as we stand and one 3-3, gotta be 2 draws out of that.
By:
The Magician (100)
When: 21 Nov 09 15:49
another game gone drawn...

challange was complete in thoery after liverpool drawn this moring.

one more draw here and it should be complete in rerality also
By:
buzzer
When: 21 Nov 09 15:57
a more than pleasing afternoon for you magician, well done on the scoop win and enjoy your evening
By:
The Magician (100)
When: 21 Nov 09 15:58
In think that is it Challange done....

3 draws today gets me over the line
By:
The Magician (100)
When: 21 Nov 09 15:58
thanks buzzer...

and thanks for cadjoling me into this today
By:
jonnyg
When: 21 Nov 09 16:00
have a great evening magician and you as well buzzer.

I shall watch my wife and daughter having a curry.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 21 Nov 09 16:28
To paraphrase Jeffrey Bernard: "This is another thread that makes people like me go broke."

Ver well done, The Magician.
By:
Ron Pillock
When: 21 Nov 09 17:39
An interesting thread but not for the obvious reasons. What has the magician actually done? Won £100,000 ? yes and thats great but hes also won 20 points which while nice doesn't sound so impressive. The same thing happens with tipster ads which boast nice profits to large stakes but when you analyse it turn out to be 20 pts profit or similar . People are dazzled by the cash figure which is just a multiple of points made. One mans unit stake of £5000 is anothers mans £5 obviously to mr magic this is chump change which begs the question why start the thread? I would say ego. For some people being successful is not enough other, people must recognise and applaud their achievements because whats another £100,000 if its what you find down the back of your sofa.
By:
scrooge_mcduck
When: 21 Nov 09 17:43
Totally agree with the above. It's not masisvely impressive at all in terms of return on stake compared with winning days we've all had. What is does prove is that there is serious money to be made at Gambling, if you have a big enough bank and bet at level stakes imo.
By:
page-413
When: 21 Nov 09 18:19
dont believe everything you read Ron
By:
JPG
When: 22 Nov 09 02:01
Forget all this "5k a pop" and Scoop 6 winings stuff...

Its mine & Viva La Presidente's "paper spread bet" that readers really want to know the latest on! :)

"Viva La Draw"

256 Prem matches remaining. 25 draws already happened.

Viva sold at 83.7

New Quote: 90.0!
By:
RAPS
When: 23 Nov 09 18:55
Well done Magician.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 23 Nov 09 19:49
personally i think you fluked it ;)
By:
Kerrygold
When: 23 Nov 09 20:16
Ron Pillock - jealous are we lol

The man has done very well with his trades and deserves credit ..well done..good stuff.. this guy is one of the more brighter fellas on here i'd imagine.
By:
RAPS
When: 23 Nov 09 21:31
you imagine ??

with certainty.

I have learnt a lot from this forum, you could also.......
By:
RAPS
When: 23 Nov 09 21:36
I meant to say..
we could all learn from this guy..


(why are all the best pro punters Australian ??)
By:
The Magician (101)
When: 23 Nov 09 21:50
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By:
aye robot
When: 23 Nov 09 21:55
Withou questioning the Magician's undoubted prowess I do agree with Ron on this- if someone wrote a thread about winning £100 with £5 bets I wouldn't be very impressed. Just putting zeros in the end doesn't make any difference.
By:
I.quit.my.job
When: 24 Nov 09 04:20
ROI % is the only figure you should be interested in when betting

growth of bank % when trading
By:
The Magician (100)
When: 24 Nov 09 20:13
ROI is around 30% on this challange.
By:
kenilworth
When: 24 Nov 09 22:59
RAPS 23 Nov 22:36


I meant to say..
we could all learn from this guy..


(why are all the best pro punters Australian ??)


Raps, what should we learn from this guy ?
By:
Eldrick
When: 24 Nov 09 23:09
there's a lot of parallels between this challenge and someone who would stand at a roulette wheel, wait for a sequence of blacks, and then bet red

sometimes those people win too, and nobody cares when they do
By:
JPG
When: 25 Nov 09 07:36
To be fair to the OP here, his original thinking/question had some merit. As you can see from replies, I wasnt (and still not) convinced there is anything in this but I cant blame him for investigating whether there were any market over-reactions to the early season results and/or any fundamental shifts in the underlying factors.

As for the results, too small a data sample for me to mean anything conclusive no matter what your point of view but I wouldnt knock the guy for at least asking the question.
By:
kenilworth
When: 25 Nov 09 10:40
JPG, I haven't noticed a market over reaction, and draw prices are something I monitor frequently. There has been a correction in results similar to the roulette table example from another poster IMO, and that was always possible. I still think the whole thread is a wind up.
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