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By:
cointocoin
When: 13 May 09 20:26
and believe or not, I met Mauresmo at her 14-15 years at he torunament and she lost with my girlmate
By:
horselover777
When: 14 May 09 08:01
I backed

A.Bondarenko 1.89
By:
horselover777
When: 14 May 09 09:33
I backed

Del Potro 1.54

Murray 1.34
By:
CurlyBlues
When: 14 May 09 09:40
Its amazing how often you back at the bottom of a market and yet refuse to believe there is anything you can do about it.

Did you not back Venus Williams on Tuesday and Andy Roddick last night because the matches started too late for you to keep an eye on or was there a different reason? (Both would presumably have been scratched)
By:
horselover777
When: 14 May 09 10:12
CurlyBlues 14 May 12:40


Its amazing how often you back at the bottom of a market and yet refuse to believe there is anything you can do about it.

Did you not back Venus Williams on Tuesday and Andy Roddick last night because the matches started too late for you to keep an eye on or was there a different reason? (Both would presumably have been scratched)


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Curly,

lease show me your 500 last real played matches to see if you always got the best price.

cheers
By:
CurlyBlues
When: 14 May 09 10:36
I don't normally stick bets up, but I'll put the one I've got this morning up for you. This isn't about me, its about exactly this attitude that you believe its not possible to have any idea about what a price should be, and I'm not claiming that you should be able to get the absolute best price on every single market but often when I check your thread before a match has started I can see you've backed within 2 or 3 ticks of the lowest traded price.

Perhaps you think I'm a moron and thats what it is. You ignore my comments on price as fantasy and that just randomly taking the price 10 minutes before it starts is the best you can hope for. You totally ignored my comments on retirements and presumably think that you can accurately predict when a player will roll their ankle or pull their hamstring. If there is an existing injury then it will be factored into the price other than that they are part and parcel of the sport, just like red cards in football.

Anyway, I did say I wouldn't mention it again but I would have thought after this amount of time you'd have cottoned on to the fact. Good Luck as always, your stubbornness might just be both a curse and blessing on your chances of success. Try reading this blog post when you get a chance: http://green-all-over.blogspot.com/2009/05/however-you-spin-it.html

Third Round Matches / Del Potro v Wawrinka / Match Odds
Juan Martin Del Potro Back 7970055463 14-May-09
21:45 1.61 300.00
By:
CurlyBlues
When: 14 May 09 10:42
Anyway as you'll quickly see that's a mixture of two bets - here is the actual Del Potro bet, not sure what happened there.

Third Round Matches / Del Potro v Wawrinka / Match Odds
Juan Martin Del Potro Back 7971115226 14-May-09
01:26 1.59 100.00
By:
CurlyBlues
When: 14 May 09 10:51
I also had this bet but put it up so late there was never much chance of getting much matched hence I didn't bother putting it on here:
Third Round Matches / Robredo v Murray / Set Betting
Robredo 2 - 0 Lay 7971790298 14-May-09
11:04 6.6 5.39 6.6 14-May-09 11:04
By:
horselover777
When: 14 May 09 10:59
Curly,

I am sure you know the value odds better than me. But as you only show one of your trades, it is a kind of aftertiming , imho.

I read everything that you are writing, because I think that you have a good knowledge and I can learn from you. I am also sure that you know what aftertiming is, even you sometimes ignore it. And I am sure that you , like me hate aftertimers :)

regarding the retirements, yesterday we have a good example that you are not right. The Berdych retirement yesterday was not priced in, imho.

Thanks and good luck
By:
CurlyBlues
When: 14 May 09 11:06
I do not wish to post all of my bets up here because I am one of those people who are of the opinion that eventually in the UK we are going to be taxed again on our winnings and I'd rather not advertise to the world what my earnings on Betfair are.

As for Berdych that IS an example of what I was discussing. There was no apparent injury prematch and he picked up one during the match. You cannot know when this will happen just like you cannot know when you will injure yourself (if) whenever you play any sport. Its just something that happens and you cannot predict it. Anyway, good luck for the rest of the day.
By:
horselover777
When: 14 May 09 11:12
I backed

Jankovic 1.24
By:
horselover777
When: 14 May 09 14:53
I backed

Verdasco 1.57

Wozniacki 1.43
By:
horselover777
When: 14 May 09 15:10
I backed

Simon 1.81
By:
internet
When: 14 May 09 15:28
horse lover,

sorry for not replying the other day, anyway I have still been reading through and it is evident at the moment the system is still not working, you have good and bad days where you can make massive profits or can lose a sh1t load, and as mentioned by another poster all you are currently doing is generating commision for Betfair, I think you really should take a much better look at the prices you are taking, you watch a lot of tennis and should probably be in the position to make decent predictions of what the price of the favorite should be, then you place the bet early and if your matched you will be happy, if you dont get matched then you dont bet. this will refine your selections and will focus you more, I would prefer to see far fewer selections from you as at the moment you are probably risking too much money each day.

What sort of profits do you expect this system to bring on a daily basis? at the moment you have been doing this challange for 67 days and have lost on average £58.22 each day, I would be interested to hear this figure
By:
FantasyTrader
When: 14 May 09 15:54
omg let him alone for gods sake. he said that he will stick to his strategy till the end, and when the money is gone (or not) he will maybe try to figure out what he was doing wrong and try again?...
By:
FantasyTrader
When: 14 May 09 15:55
leave*
By:
Dutchy Schwarz
When: 14 May 09 17:41
Agree with FantasyTrader.

Please refer to the very first line of horselovers very first post back on the 8th March.
By:
horselover777
When: 14 May 09 18:47
Internet,

I will have to repeat myself, we are all glad that betfair exists, and saying this we are also have to pay them for a service, and we all pay comission.
And if I will sit here one year and paid my comission and dint lose a penny, I will be very glad. But I am sure that I will be in the black at the end.

Regarding value prices, I have to say that I don't believe that you or other people here always get the value price. If I will ask 10 people here about a value price I will get for sure many different answers. I know that value is a good thing, but to get it always I really don't believe in this. Because I have not a good knowledge about value prices, I adopted my strategy, where the value price is not so important, imho. Sure it would work much better if I would get always value bets. But the value bets are no guarantee that there will not be any down moves, even over a longer period.

What sort of profit I expect? Hard to say, but right now I would say that I should be up about 8k.

Always appreciate your and others well meant postings

cheers
By:
grahamwestleyisthemessiah
When: 14 May 09 19:02
ROFL^
By:
horselover777
When: 14 May 09 19:25
FantasyTrader & Dutchy Schwarz

thanks for jumping in, but postings like internet's are always welcome even if they are with criticism.

Cheers
By:
horselover777
When: 14 May 09 20:14
A.Bondarenko = scratch trade 2nd set

Del Potro = scratch trade 2nd set

Murray = winner

Jankovic = winner

Wozniacki = winner

Simon = loser :(

Verdasco = winner
By:
McChicken_Sandwich
When: 14 May 09 20:16
What sort of profit I expect? Hard to say, but right now I would say that I should be up about 8k.


Huh :|
By:
horselover777
When: 14 May 09 20:17
Tennis: USD216.88 Total P&L: USD216.88


Tennis Showing 1 - 7 of 7 markets of 526 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Monaco v Verdasco : Match Odds 14-May-09 21:00 14-May-09 23:05 329.00
Tennis / Ljubicic v Simon : Match Odds 14-May-09 19:00 14-May-09 21:31 -600.00
Tennis / Kleybanova v Wozniacki : Match Odds 14-May-09 18:30 14-May-09 20:23 224.16
Tennis / Del Potro v Wawrinka : Match Odds 14-May-09 13:00 14-May-09 16:08 8.17
Tennis / Jankovic v Vesnina : Match Odds 14-May-09 14:00 14-May-09 15:32 138.53
Tennis / Robredo v Murray : Match Odds 14-May-09 13:00 14-May-09 14:59 196.25
Tennis / Chakvetadze v A Bondarenko : Match Odds 14-May-09 11:00 14-May-09 12:50 -79.23


Tennis: -USD3,710.82 Total P&L: -USD3,710.82
By:
CurlyBlues
When: 14 May 09 20:55
Is the figure of $8K what you'd want to have made at this stage or what you think you should have made already?
By:
horselover777
When: 15 May 09 06:02
CurlyBlues 14 May 23:55


Is the figure of $8K what you'd want to have made at this stage or what you think you should have made already?



good morning curly

sorry but I don't understand this question. if I want , I want 100.000 and more :)

I thought I will average 3500 a month, and I am right now more than 2 month. but saying this I never said I will have each month profit. after one year ( if my bank is still there) I can say what the monthly average was. but it will be more difficult to say because I will go up each 4000 with 200 the initial bet. sure only if I will reach this :)
I believe in it, and thats important.

cheers
By:
CurlyBlues
When: 15 May 09 06:27
I think you answered my question. I meant was the figure what you were expecting to make or was it the figure you thought it should be after looking at the results with rose tinted sunglasses. Good luck.
By:
horselover777
When: 15 May 09 11:09
I backed

Mauresmo 1.48
By:
horselover777
When: 15 May 09 14:01
I backed

Safina 1.23
By:
horselover777
When: 15 May 09 16:35
I backed

Jankovic 1.24
By:
horselover777
When: 15 May 09 20:20
I backed

Murray 1.52
By:
IdleBrain
When: 15 May 09 21:56
murray doesnt look good...
By:
grahamwestleyisthemessiah
When: 15 May 09 21:56
well done horse gobbler. Some excellent guessing there. Keep up the good work
By:
horselover777
When: 15 May 09 22:37
Mauresmo = scratch trade 2nd set

Safina = winner

Jankovic = loser :(

Murray = loser :(
By:
Roger OASIS
When: 15 May 09 23:05
grahamwestleyisthemessiah 15 May 22:56


well done horse gobbler. Some excellent guessing there. Keep up the good work


I was taught that if you didn't have anything pleasant to say, then don't say anything at all.

You might heed this advice.

p.s. Where can I find your bets?
By:
horselover777
When: 16 May 09 06:32
Tennis: -USD1,105.22 Total P&L: -USD1,105.22


Tennis Showing 1 - 4 of 4 markets of 530 markets

Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss ($)
Tennis / Del Potro v Murray : Match Odds 15-May-09 22:15 16-May-09 01:37 -600.00
Tennis / Jankovic v Schnyder : Match Odds 15-May-09 19:30 15-May-09 21:28 -600.00
Tennis / Safina v A Bondarenko : Match Odds 15-May-09 17:00 15-May-09 19:18 132.76
Tennis / Szavay v Mauresmo : Match Odds 15-May-09 14:00 15-May-09 16:18 -37.98


Tennis: -USD4,816.04 Total P&L: -USD4,816.04
By:
scrooge_mcduck
When: 16 May 09 08:19
horeslover, what's the most losers you've had in a row? Would the martingale have worked for you?
By:
horselover777
When: 16 May 09 08:42
scrooge_mcduck 16 May 09:19


horeslover, what's the most losers you've had in a row? Would the martingale have worked for you?


scrooge,

imho, martingale never works , because of the limits. I can tell everyone to stay away from it. to explain it now would be time consuming, but in the net is so much written about it.
I know that every newbee will one day start to try martingale :( and throw it in the corner one day, when the losses are to heavy.

good luck mate
By:
horselover777
When: 16 May 09 08:45
I backed

Wozniacki 1.61
By:
scrooge_mcduck
When: 16 May 09 10:32
Yeah, I don't use it and wouldn't advise but just wondered if would have worked thus far with the amount of losers n a row you've had.

If you know the game well, I think it could be quite useful because it would be hard to pick more than 3 or 4 losers in a row. Extremely risky all the same though, but then so seems you're strategy tbh.
By:
horselover777
When: 16 May 09 11:10
I backed

Safina 1.24
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