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By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 15:14
DAY 2 using MONEY another small winning day though :D


Horse Racing: £27.88 Total P&L: £27.88

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 17 of 17 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Wolv 16th Nov : 5f Hcap 16-Nov-09 16:00 16-Nov-09 16:09 36.59
Horse Racing / Plump 16th Nov : 2m2f NHF 16-Nov-09 15:50 16-Nov-09 16:00 7.11
Horse Racing / Leic 16th Nov : To Be Placed 16-Nov-09 15:40 16-Nov-09 15:47 -6.00
Horse Racing / Leic 16th Nov : 2m4f Hcap Hrd 16-Nov-09 15:40 16-Nov-09 15:47 19.25
Horse Racing / Wolv 16th Nov : 1m4f Hcap 16-Nov-09 15:30 16-Nov-09 15:34 -5.00
Horse Racing / Plump 16th Nov : 3m2f Hcap Chs 16-Nov-09 15:20 16-Nov-09 15:34 -5.90
Horse Racing / Leic 16th Nov : 2m4f Claim Hrd 16-Nov-09 15:10 16-Nov-09 15:17 -5.00
Horse Racing / Wolv 16th Nov : 7f Sell Stks 16-Nov-09 15:00 16-Nov-09 15:03 -2.00
Horse Racing / Plump 16th Nov : 2m5f Nov Hrd 16-Nov-09 14:50 16-Nov-09 15:00 0.27
Horse Racing / Leic 16th Nov : 2m Hcap Hrd 16-Nov-09 14:40 16-Nov-09 14:46 26.21
Horse Racing / Wolv 16th Nov : 6f Mdn Stks 16-Nov-09 14:30 16-Nov-09 14:35 -19.00
Horse Racing / Leic 16th Nov : 2m4f Nov Hrd 16-Nov-09 14:10 16-Nov-09 14:17 -12.00
Horse Racing / Plump 16th Nov : To Be Placed 16-Nov-09 13:50 16-Nov-09 13:57 -2.00
Horse Racing / Plump 16th Nov : 2m Nov Hrd 16-Nov-09 13:50 16-Nov-09 13:57 -2.59
Horse Racing / Leic 16th Nov : To Be Placed 16-Nov-09 13:40 16-Nov-09 13:46 -3.00
Horse Racing / Leic 16th Nov : 2m Sell Hrd 16-Nov-09 13:40 16-Nov-09 13:46 -4.59
Horse Racing / Plump 16th Nov : 2m1f Hcap Chs 16-Nov-09 13:20 16-Nov-09 13:31 5.53



Must have wrote off a helafalot IR though........may change this practice once bank increased a bit.


Don't like shape of 4.30 race so PASS on that..................

May do last 2 races ...not looked at them yet.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 15:16
BANK now -

Wallet Available to bet
(GBP) Available to withdraw
(GBP) Current exposure
(GBP) Retained commission
(GBP)
Main wallet 397.96 397.96


So increase of 7.5 % on DAY 2 so far..............................may just leave it at that ...though still to check out last 2 races.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 15:22
Nope ...PASS on other 2 races as not clear ....a bit too open for me ...without spending ages appraising races.....

GL with bets ...and wd again Muqbil .....you are pretty strong on AW races :D



PS might do another thread for using KELLY C with footy bets ....not sre yet ....just to keep threads separate..................though same bank !!!!

STAKING has always been my achilles heel ..........so having a thread on FOOTBALL on here should improve my discipline............hopefully.

Cheers the noooooooooooooooooo
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 15:29
4.30 - fav looks to have fair chance to win ...but Honorable Endeavor may be interesting in this race....but PASS on it ...not sure
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 15:30
Oh to hell ..£2 win on HE and £2 RFC with fav in 4.30
By:
Muqbil
When: 16 Nov 09 15:34
I bcked three in the race tbf. I use different methods to you (I think). Had shown progressive form this summer and the Ascot race was pretty hot, was backed off the boards lto and looked very dangerous before flopping. Trainer is in bright form too.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 15:35
I know you know more about how individual horses run M.....i just generally go by race card info :(

Annoyed on not backing that winner ...as being a 3 yo at that distance and well weighted ..and Ellison etc ..had much in its favour! DRATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 15:39
5.00
roughly £4 on Stand In Flames to WIN and £2 place

Kings Ace £2 win
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 15:42
Hannicean £2 win as well


Will be LAYING IR on all 3...................
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 16:03
ELLISON again........had a wee cover bet ...just in case ! still lost £1 though in win market :(
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 16:06
5.30
Wotatomboy £2 win
Vamos £2 win
Just Jimmy £2 win
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 16:33
Made a profit £ 8.48 on JUST JIMMY thanks to cross lays :D...etc less commission :(
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 16:33
Wolverhampton 5.30 Full Result
1st 9 Just Jimmy (IRE) 4-1
2nd 6 Vamos (IRE) 7-2 F
3rd 12 Camerooney 12-1
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 16:42
FFS .....the profit was reduced by a LATE lay on winner in last race.....???? Oh well BF know what they are doing !!!!
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 16:48
DAY 2 FINAL PROFIT

Horse Racing: £25.64 Total P&L: £25.64

Horse Racing Showing 1 - 20 of 22 markets
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Wolv 16th Nov : 1m Hcap 16-Nov-09 17:30 16-Nov-09 17:43 7.15
Horse Racing / Wolv 16th Nov : To Be Placed 16-Nov-09 17:00 16-Nov-09 17:11 -2.00
Horse Racing / Wolv 16th Nov : 1m Hcap 16-Nov-09 17:00 16-Nov-09 17:10 -1.39
Horse Racing / Wolv (RFC) 16th Nov : Reverse FC 16-Nov-09 16:30 16-Nov-09 16:40 -2.00
Horse Racing / Wolv 16th Nov : 2m Hcap 16-Nov-09 16:30 16-Nov-09 16:39 -4.00
Horse Racing / Wolv 16th Nov : 5f Hcap 16-Nov-09 16:00 16-Nov-09 16:09 36.59
Horse Racing / Plump 16th Nov : 2m2f NHF 16-Nov-09 15:50 16-Nov-09 16:00 7.11
Horse Racing / Leic 16th Nov : To Be Placed 16-Nov-09 15:40 16-Nov-09 15:47 -6.00
Horse Racing / Leic 16th Nov : 2m4f Hcap Hrd 16-Nov-09 15:40 16-Nov-09 15:47 19.25
Horse Racing / Wolv 16th Nov : 1m4f Hcap 16-Nov-09 15:30 16-Nov-09 15:34 -5.00
Horse Racing / Plump 16th Nov : 3m2f Hcap Chs 16-Nov-09 15:20 16-Nov-09 15:34 -5.90
Horse Racing / Leic 16th Nov : 2m4f Claim Hrd 16-Nov-09 15:10 16-Nov-09 15:17 -5.00
Horse Racing / Wolv 16th Nov : 7f Sell Stks 16-Nov-09 15:00 16-Nov-09 15:03 -2.00
Horse Racing / Plump 16th Nov : 2m5f Nov Hrd 16-Nov-09 14:50 16-Nov-09 15:00 0.27
Horse Racing / Leic 16th Nov : 2m Hcap Hrd 16-Nov-09 14:40 16-Nov-09 14:46 26.21
Horse Racing / Wolv 16th Nov : 6f Mdn Stks 16-Nov-09 14:30 16-Nov-09 14:35 -19.00
Horse Racing / Leic 16th Nov : 2m4f Nov Hrd 16-Nov-09 14:10 16-Nov-09 14:17 -12.00
Horse Racing / Plump 16th Nov : To Be Placed 16-Nov-09 13:50 16-Nov-09 13:57 -2.00
Horse Racing / Plump 16th Nov : 2m Nov Hrd 16-Nov-09 13:50 16-Nov-09 13:57 -2.59
Horse Racing / Leic 16th Nov : To Be Placed 16-Nov-09 13:40 16-Nov-09 13:46 -3.00
Pages: 1 2 of 2 Pages
Market Start time Settled date Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Leic 16th Nov : 2m Sell Hrd 16-Nov-09 13:40 16-Nov-09 13:46 -4.59
Horse Racing / Plump 16th Nov : 2m1f Hcap Chs 16-Nov-09 13:20 16-Nov-09 13:31 5.53
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CLOSING BANK now £395.72 .........................and increase of 6.92 % on day..............could have been more had I not layed so much profit off IR.....
By:
lee h2
When: 16 Nov 09 16:58
you've already stopped using :

1. your system which , as I remember you saying, has over 100 factors to be input.

Now you are just guessing

2. Stopped using KELLY at all...just using any stake you fancy plus the good old 'cover bets'
By:
zipper
When: 16 Nov 09 17:12
Dfcironman .. Golden Rule number 1 ...... never have an Arguement with yourself . never
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 17:50
lee h2 -
Where were you when "ATTEMPT 2" made a profit ....to give an over all profit ???????
As long as I am selecting VALUE bets lee h2, that have a chance to win IMO........I should win, whether I use SYSTEM or not! Just a basic rule.

The SYSTEM can be used at any time I feel like it..........I never said I was using SYSTEM on any of the KELLY threads, so why do you expect me to use it.

When I do use SYSTEM it will be for various betting strategies............................and when I do use it, this thread will stop....as just will be NO TIME ......................something you cannot appreciate , as been stated on NUMEROUS occassions AND YOU KEEP IGNORING THE TIME FACTOR !
==============================================

zipper - I am not married so sometimes yyou need to argue with self to keep standard up etc etc .......hope you don't think I am lee h2 :D :D :D ]:)?
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 17:50
]:)
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 11:03
Afternoon bank now £436.36 after football result last night on other KELLY thread......so will have a go today.

GL with bets
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 11:06
12.20 - Dickie Le Davoir

MONEY BANK now : £436.36
ODDS AVAILABLE : 8 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % = 6-1 ( 14.29 %)
STAKE INDICATED : 6.11

WIN STAKE £6.11





Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 11:10
12.40 SHAKALAKA likely winner ...but not attractive race to bet on for me ...so PASS
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 11:15
12.50- Taper Jean Girl


MONEY BANK now : £430.25
ODDS AVAILABLE : 2.98 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % = 6-4 ( 40%)
STAKE INDICATED : 34.86


WIN STAKE £12




Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 11:24
Just about broke even due to a last minute bet on COOL SANDS and lay IR with 12.20 race...no damage done.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 11:29
1.00 - PASS ...as looks an open race and would take too long for me to appraise.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 11:35
1.10 - Pinerock


MONEY BANK now : £424.25 ( £6 saved on stake on 12.20 race)

ODDS AVAILABLE : 5.3 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % =3-1 ( 25%)
STAKE INDICATED : 28.17


WIN STAKE £9
Cover stake of £2 win on Near The Water too



Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 11:43
1.20 Fav likely winner ...buut PASS as don't like shape of race.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 11:46
Cover £2 bet win on Whispered Times in 12.50 , as has already won a race and trainer does reasonably well on AW tracks.....
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 11:55
FFS ...something went wrong with lay IR on that winner and lost £12 ........a double lay happened when I was sure only had 1 lay IR............................annoying with that error by me ...presumably.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 11:56
Lost £7 .....not £12.....................really stupid ERROR by me ....DRATTTTTTTTTT :(
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 11:58
Southwell 12.50

1st 11 Taper Jean Girl (IRE) 3-1 F 2nd 7 Bookiesindex Girl (IRE) 6-1
3rd 8 Dontbugthebunny (USA) 5-1
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 12:06
1.30- Space Cowboy

MONEY BANK now : £ 418.13 before 1.20 race

ODDS AVAILABLE : 14 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % = 9-1 ( 10 %)
STAKE INDICATED : 11.34

WIN STAKE £6

Cover stake of £2 on RFC with Prophete De Guye as well



Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 12:15
Loss £11 on 1.10 race............
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 12:16
Folkestone 1.10

1st 1 Aegean Dawn 8-13 F
2nd 5 Near The Water (IRE) 8-1 was only a cover win ..............
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 12:22
1.40 - Approved Force

MONEY BANK now : £ 410 .13 before 1.30 race

ODDS AVAILABLE : 8 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % =6 -1 ( 14.29 %)
STAKE INDICATED : 5.75

WIN STAKE £3.75Cover stake of £2 on RFC with Vodka Brook



Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 12:24
£2 win as cover too on VODKA BROOK...........in 1.40
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 12:28
1.50- Blue Rum


MONEY BANK now : £ 402.38 before 1.30 race

ODDS AVAILABLE : 8 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % =6 -1 ( 14.29 %)
STAKE INDICATED : 8.44


WIN STAKE £4
Cover bet of £ 2 WIN on Azzez Life at 243.25 odds




Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 12:32
1.50 - also a COMBINATION EXACTA with FAV + 2 selections above ...£3 total stake
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 12:40
Covered DUSK Ir to save stakes on 1.30 race
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 17 Nov 09 12:47
2.00 -Am I Blue

MONEY BANK now : £ 401.49 before 1.50 race

ODDS AVAILABLE : 17 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % = 12 -1 ( 7.69 %)
STAKE INDICATED : 6.49


WIN STAKE £6.49

Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
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