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12 Nov 09
11:03
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I have just found one with a 15.2% advantage. I don't want to publish it here as I want to work those markets a bit more, however I am happy to share with like minded and sharing people on IM.
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hello
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What's IM, Alex?
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Hi Alex, I don't post on here (much) any more, but just wanted to hello, and wish you all the best for Christmas and the new year, hope your keeping well. Cheers.
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Hi btf, wondered where you'd been of late. All the best mate (cannyman)
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Surely with the pc the markets are now overarbed to the point where its futile ?
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It is still there coachbuster.
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Where's the arb? pretty please.
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15% alex seems alot. you sure you're not missing something?
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boxingthefox 12 Nov 12:41
Hi Alex, I don't post on here (much) any more, but just wanted to hello, and wish you all the best for Christmas and the new year, hope your keeping well. Cheers. Very well. Thanks for the wishes and consider them reciprocated. |
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I am convinced. Like for like it is.
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15% is no good if you have got to pay 20% should the lay lose.
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IanP 12 Nov 13:28
15% is no good if you have got to pay 20% should the lay lose. It is an arb on betfair. Impossible to lose it is. |
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how long till the market closes and you can reveal all?
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Within 7 days.
One of the prices is wrong. |
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re you going to give us a clue as to where to find it?
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re = are
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1.01 Layer 12 Nov 14:16
re you going to give us a clue as to where to find it? Not here, no. I give enough in the vain hope of getting something back and what goes out I don't think is reciprocated. I am prepared to disclose on IM on the basis that it is controlled and in the future similar opportunities can be shared in a controlled manner. If I disclose this publicly some big hitter will take the lot and I want to gently maximise it. |
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That's fair enough, Alex. What is IM though?
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If IM is instant meesenger, could you let me know on elpadjw@h o t mail.com. Thanks a lot.
I'll gladly endeavour to reciprocate, when something crops up. |
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Done.
It is telling me that windows live is not available right now but the invitation will be sent idc. |
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How does it avoid the PC if it can't lose on Betfair ?
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The idea, Ian is that you lose on one market (and generate commission) and win on the other, covering your loss and paying a bit more comm, thus reducing the pc.
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And if you can generate a net profit at the same time, so much the better.
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Hi Alex u r basicly right , but there is one little problem : If all the wins happen to come on Betfair and all the losses come at the bookies it will only increase the PC.
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What Alex is talking about is arbing within Betfair using related markets, eg using 0-0 against total goals.
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Also at final time in tennis tournaments etc there is the final match market and the competition winner market.
Back one player on the match market and back the other player to win thhe competition |
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and if one of them retires in the first set?
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Please people be aware of being 'groomed' by a perennial email address collector. He is well known for this on other forums. Take care if giving your email addy to this guy, you have been warned.
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Congrats on finding this 15.2%, which im sure you have taken advantage of, but my nagging feeling is that there cant be enough liquidity to make this post worthwhile - why would you share it anyway?
Also, I've looked for these for years and can never, ever recall anything above 10% on related markets - like diggler, are you sure there isnt another 'element' to one of the markets? , or simply one layer has made a mistake, for a stagnant amount of cash? |
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If you back in the match and lay in the outright, how does this save you anything ? Your profit remains the same, so Betfair will still want your total commission to be made up to 20%. All you seem to have done is replaced some of the PC with normal commission. I must be missing something.
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Simply winning on one market and losing on another to reduce PC, eg total goals and under/over 2.5 goals is not arbing as you do not guarantee a profit from the bets themselves. Might well work though, any mathematicians on here?
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IanP, because you are given implied commission on your losses as well as actual commission on wins?
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Would require big stakes to eat into the PC and often you arn't going to get a perfect arb
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i am looking for it now.
think i am very cold. not getting warmer. |
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Gone now. However you can safely consider jinxy to be a total pra@tt.
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chop, only 1/2 of your actual commission counts though, doesn't it ?
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Ty Aye robot and Lippy , u r right I did not catch the internal Betfair part , even tho I use the method a lot myself!!!!
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Fair enough, haven't looked into it to a great extent.
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birch2 12 Nov 17:20
Congrats on finding this 15.2%, which im sure you have taken advantage of, but my nagging feeling is that there cant be enough liquidity to make this post worthwhile - why would you share it anyway? Also, I've looked for these for years and can never, ever recall anything above 10% on related markets - like diggler, are you sure there isnt another 'element' to one of the markets? , or simply one layer has made a mistake, for a stagnant amount of cash? biirch2, I did not share it. I talked with 1.01 layer on IM and we concluded that my maths was right and I just topped up. |