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By:
penzance
When: 30 Jun 26 00:33
Come back well after getting hammered by the Yanks.
By:
mesmerised
When: 30 Jun 26 00:33
Caramba I wish you luck tomorrow and everything given you have Gyökeres who I'm obviously following and hopes does well, but Sweden are gonner get absolutely pumped by France Wink
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 30 Jun 26 00:34
im going to ask VAR to check that reg Laugh
By:
tobermory
When: 30 Jun 26 00:35
Could add Spain, win it 2010, not made quarters of the last 3
By:
Regbutler
When: 30 Jun 26 00:35
Caramba must be a South American surely
By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 30 Jun 26 00:35
The German decline is so weird. They were bad 1998-2004 (somehow fluked a WC final in 2002 in the middle of this). Then they change entire structure from the grassroots and up after the flop in 2004 and ahead of their home WC and go bronze, bronze, gold. Been useless since.
By:
Des Pond
When: 30 Jun 26 00:35
how tall is that keeper?
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 30 Jun 26 00:35
Vorsprung durch schlecht
By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 30 Jun 26 00:35

Jun 30, 2026 -- 12:33AM, mesmerised wrote:


Caramba I wish you luck tomorrow and everything given you have Gyökeres who I'm obviously following and hopes does well, but Sweden are gonner get absolutely pumped by France


yeah for sure, my comment was very much tongue in cheek.

By:
Regbutler
When: 30 Jun 26 00:36
Tiger, i googled it, can't remember 51 years ago
By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 30 Jun 26 00:37
I took a bet on France outright at 4.4 as Germany missed their 4th pen. I was seething hard as Para missed two kicks from there, but it worked out in the end.
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 30 Jun 26 00:38
What a result Laugh
By:
tobermory
When: 30 Jun 26 00:38
Nagelsmann seems like another AVB

Hyped up as the greatest ever in early thirties, out of the game by 40.
By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 30 Jun 26 00:38
Germany in 2018 and 2022 at least created chances. This is a useless squad, I don't understand how a big football nation like that doesn't get better players.
By:
Regbutler
When: 30 Jun 26 00:40
Caramba, France 3.9 now
Well done, but I'm surprised Germany going out took the France price down half a point...would never have considered them a threat
By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 30 Jun 26 00:41
Argentina and France both sub 1.3 to make the quarters.
By:
Regbutler
When: 30 Jun 26 00:42
Yeah, Argies especially got a nice run
By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 30 Jun 26 00:45
looks like we are either getting Brazil vs Argentina for the first time since 1990 or Argentina vs England.
By:
tobermory
When: 30 Jun 26 00:46
Norway v Ecuador hasn't happened in a while
By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 30 Jun 26 00:46
Traditionally, Brazil's greatest rival is Argentina. The two countries have met each other four times in the history of the FIFA World Cup, with two wins for Brazil (West Germany 1974 and Spain 1982), one for Argentina (Italy 1990) and a draw (Argentina 1978).

Funny these two have only met 4 times in the history of the WC and that was in the span of 5 world cups.

/caramba the South American statistician
By:
tobermory
When: 30 Jun 26 00:48
The 2nd group stage in 74/78/82 made big nation match ups more likely
By:
mesmerised
When: 30 Jun 26 00:48
Mexico are the biggest mystery in football, 130 odd million people, a proper footballing country where it's like religion.

Yet their World Cup record is absolutely abysmal and there hasn't been any top class Mexican player to speak off in years and years.

I read a while a list of the best ever Mexican players, just to give you an idea of their calibre, the player rated the fifth best Mexican player ever was....wait for it......Javier HernandezLaugh the little pea

If he was English he'd be the 5000th best ever player.

How can a country that big with that many people where football is the number 1,2,3 sport, cannot produce any top quality players at all. Probably have to go as far back as Marquez and he was a defender. If you look at the clubs their current squad are all playing for, most are playing in Mexico, Jimenez was playing at Fulham last season, just signed for a Championship club, the rest are at clubs in Russia, Greece, Cyprus etc.

Kind Regards.
By:
Des Pond
When: 30 Jun 26 00:50
when you're carrying 2, maybe 3 passengers, and you don't have any quality to bring on. You're goose is cooked, tbh.
By:
mesmerised
When: 30 Jun 26 00:52
I was only thinking today that I don't think I'd ever seen Brazil play Argentina in a World Cup, was going to look it up but forgot, it is a pretty amazing stat it hasn't happened in the last 8 World Cups
By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 30 Jun 26 00:53

Jun 30, 2026 -- 12:48AM, tobermory wrote:


The 2nd group stage in 74/78/82 made big nation match ups more likely


yeah that explains that stat. Quite unexpected that they met in 1990, and only happened because Argentina did so poorly in the group stages. They should have met later you'd think, but when one did well the other one flopped. 2014 they both made final four, think that's the only one in recent time.

By:
TheCarambaExperience
When: 30 Jun 26 00:53

Jun 30, 2026 -- 12:48AM, mesmerised wrote:


Mexico are the biggest mystery in football, 130 odd million people, a proper footballing country where it's like religion.Yet their World Cup record is absolutely abysmal and there hasn't been any top class Mexican player to speak off in years and years.I read a while a list of the best ever Mexican players, just to give you an idea of their calibre, the player rated the fifth best Mexican player ever was....wait for it......Javier Hernandez the little peaIf he was English he'd be the 5000th best ever player.How can a country that big with that many people where football is the number 1,2,3 sport, cannot produce any top quality players at all. Probably have to go as far back as Marquez and he was a defender. If you look at the clubs their current squad are all playing for, most are playing in Mexico, Jimenez was playing at Fulham last season, just signed for a Championship club, the rest are at clubs in Russia, Greece, Cyprus etc.Kind Regards.


Lucha libre soaking up all the top talent!

By:
paulybad
When: 30 Jun 26 00:53
Those thinking it may be opening up for the Argies, are forgetting the Colombians.
By:
the old nanny ;-)
When: 30 Jun 26 00:53
England are a Mirror Imagine of the German play style , SHYTENHAUSER

they need to sort their game out and Quick

Penalty Shoot out into the Congo End, Bongo Drums in full flow , Game over imo
By:
mesmerised
When: 30 Jun 26 00:55
A bit like Federer and Nadal - they played 14 times in Grand slams (40 times in total)

but they never played each other once at the US Open
By:
tobermory
When: 30 Jun 26 00:55
The weirdest example of big nations never crossing paths was Brazil not meeting Germany until 2002.
By:
mesmerised
When: 30 Jun 26 00:56
never heard of Lucha libre, had to look that up
By:
differentdrum
When: 30 Jun 26 00:56
I don't mind the German's losing, but I am not sure how Shearer can say a side who spent most the match playing for penalties, deserved to win. That's before you take into account the very dubious disallowed goal where it looked like the goalkeeper went down too easily. Two more poor teams.
By:
tobermory
When: 30 Jun 26 00:58
I guess because Nadal took a while to be a Top 2 player on non clay, but was always seeded 2 at the US due to clay record, so couldn't meet Roger until the final but wasn't good enough to get there.

And when Nadal came into his all court prime Fed's prime was over.
By:
mesmerised
When: 30 Jun 26 00:59
tober they met at the Aussie open (hard court) four times
By:
mesmerised
When: 30 Jun 26 01:01
Had to look it up, but England haven't played Spain at a World Cup since 1982, that's 11 World Cups ago, must be the longest gap between games for England v another Top nation ?
By:
tobermory
When: 30 Jun 26 01:02
Yeah, it is odd they never did play in US Open considering that.

But Federer really dropped off at the US Open after 2011 or so didn't he?, while being more competitive in the Australian until near the end of his career.
By:
mesmerised
When: 30 Jun 26 01:04
yeah Novak came in and helped spoil the party as well, that's in part why he is no where near their level of popularity, people enjoyed that rivalry but then post 2011, gluten free n'all, Novak started to split them up, knocking one of the other out of slams stopping more match ups between Federer and Nadal.
By:
Des Pond
When: 30 Jun 26 01:05
I remember Cannigia scoring against Brazil, brilliant set up by Maradona.
By:
mesmerised
When: 30 Jun 26 01:07
on a slightly lesser level, Murray and Nadal amazingly never met in a Grand Slam final, despite the fact that between his first slam final USOPEN 2008 til his last, Wimbledon 2016, they played in total of 24 slam finals between then, Murray 11 and Nadal 13, yet somehow they managed to miss each other in every single one.
By:
mesmerised
When: 30 Jun 26 01:08
The one time Murray got to a French open final, where Nadal usually sat waiting for his next victim, he wasn't there, he had to pull out of the third round, wasn't meant to happen. Would have got beat anyway.
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