Michael Owen rinsed Kane for moving to Bayern, likened it to going to Scotland.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cWxfEQYiexQ

Worth noting that when Shearer played in CL for Blackburn, they didn't qualify out of a group including (from memory) Spartak Moscow, Rosenborg and Legia Warsaw.  The PL then was worse than the BL now.  Kane has played in the PL at it's peak.  His goals per game in the PL aren't as good as Kane's and he doesn't contribute as an 8 or a 10.  I'd have Lineker and Keegan ahead of Shearer personally.  But 4th best over 50 years is still very very good

England/Germany were very similar in strength back in 95/96 if co-efficiency was anything to go by, now England miles ahead. Premier League also had to play catch up after being banned for 5 years from playing in Europe, so really were probably stronger as if you have no clubs in Europe for that long, it'd take a while to get the co-efficiency back to where it should be. Nicolas Jackson could have led the line for Bayern this season in every game and they'd still have won the Bundesliga, 13 from 14 titles tells you it is a weak farmers league.

Yeah, but my point was that Bayern are an elite team surrounded by dross. Blackburn of that time were just one of a bunch of mediocre teams. Scoring 30 goals against a bunch of teams that are nearly as good as you is perhaps a better achievement than scoring 40 when the gulf between you and the opposition is vast.

To avoid bias I have not contributed to this thread, aside from a little banter with Wes. I will add though that all of the strikers mentioned have been good strikers and worthy of consideration in this debate, which should make England proud that they have produced such talent over the years. Where's the next bunch coming from I wonder?

If you can start just 25 Bundesliga games from max 34 games and go on to score 36 goals, you know it's a weak league, someone on talksport this morning said people close to Kane have said he's surprised how easy he's found it to score over there, that's because most of the clubs are Championship level.

The most amount of goals scored in a 38 game Premier League season is 36, that's happened once in it's history, next on the list is Salah with 32.

That's not to say that if you had put Kane in the Man City treble winning team, that he couldn't have scored 36 goals that season, because I think he could of. But using Bundesliga stats, where a few years ago Lewandowski scored 41 goals in a season, to elevate someone's standing in the game, is just silly.

He has to turn up in a big final, not enjoy easy draws to finals that he's had with England, then losing to the first half decent team. If he wins the World Cup and is a key player, he'll probably win the Balon D'or, then nobody would ever question him. But realistically, England will lose to France in the quarters again.

Van persie hit 30 at arsenal and 26 at man utd back to back
but was sub 20 rest of time, 1 x 18, next best 12.

Shearer was a decent player when not up top.

I'd guess he created more goals for himself than most strikers
and was an excellent passer, crosser when opportunity arose.

But strikers have different roles in different teams

I suspect a trophy might have been won had Shearer been
available to Southgate.

Of course it's a weak league, that's why Lewandowski was able to score 41 league goals in 29 league games, and why Kane has twice scored 36 goals in 32 matches and 31 matches respectively, yet nobody has ever score more than 36 goals in 38 Premier League games, Salah next on 32 from 38. And Kane and Lewandowski both achieved their feat in their 30's.

And it's also why Bayern have won 13 league titles from the last 14 seasons, they outspend all the other German clubs on wages and they can't compete.

Bayern also the only German club to have won the CL in nearly 30 years, there's been 4 different English clubs to have won it during that time, maybe 5 if Arsenal win it but unlikely that happens. Same in Europa League, since Germany football peaked in 97 when Shalke won the UEFA cup in the same year Dortmund won the CL, there's been 4 different English winners, 1 German. The Premier League has also had a boat load more finalists in both comps.

Kane is a great player, but there's far too much recency bias these days, people forget how good players were from the past. I think Shearer had a remarkable goals to game ratio considering the terrible injuries he had to come back from.

The UEFA coefficients tell you how strong the league is.  It's not rocket science.  It's a weaker league than the PL but it's not a weak league.  There are over 50 leagues in Europa and it's probably never been out of the top 4 for nearly 50 years.  That the PL is the top league in Europe (and much stronger than it was in Shearer's age) is only to Kane's credit and strengthens his argument.

Look at Ronaldo at man utd going to Spain which is pretty much on par with germany

Lots of evidence suggests kane is an excellent striker
but maybe none that's he's significantly better, nor significantly inferior to some
other top English strikers,

Jimmy Greaves
Total Career Club Goals 422 goals in 602 appearances
First Division Top Scorer 6 seasons (an all-time record)
44 goals in 57 caps for England

If Harry Kane had played in this era he would have spent half of it in a horizontal position or the hospital.

Lineker was the best.
He did it at the top level.

Bayern not playing against Stuttgart in cup final, out nothing Hazza has scored 2 goals so far. 8 mins and inj time left.

Good send off for Kane.

^ to Alien & Clydebank re Harry

Kane is by far the best

He was joint top scorer at the last Euros...

To be fair to Kane, he hasn't committed, and got away with even after dying, the stuff Charlton did.