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btw, a shame we haven't got any more players like Kane and Sterling.....because Italy have 11 divers
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Nice and early,
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Say what you think Mat
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Denmarks free kick leading to goal was soft
One Dane took the other out ref blamed Mount. Play on and world's a different place |
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Donny...Shaw rugby tackled a Dane for the free kick that they scored off.
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The one straight before that, sofia
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*Italy v England
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Stick the trophy in the back of the Mini Cooper and head for the Alps
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Poor ole Mat22 done his bank on the Danish what a plum
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Italy have a massive advantage, a whole 24 hours rest, can't underestimate that.
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I think home advantage is the massive advantage SH... given this , the betting suggests Italy are the slightly better team .
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Italy had harder semi, chasing shadows
for long periods, but you'd take the extra day. From last 16 start, they've had more than one extra day. To counter that England are at home |
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Grealish be fresh
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Much harder game for England than tonight imo. Danes looked cooked after an hour. Brought 5 subs on in normal time to 1 for England and still couldn't keep up. That ludicrous trip to Baku and back took a lot out of them, they were on their knees by the end of it. And they still gave England their hardest test yet.
Italy have better players, better in midfield and much more depth and some game changers on the bench. Very little to be impressed about with England tonight but they have been incredibly lucky with draws, travel, Germany game switched to Wembley and then that penalty tonight which was more than luck imo, borderine criminal. They will need that level of luck to keep up imo. Doesn't look to me like they'll give Italy as tough a game as Spain did. Grealish, Mount, Foden really are overrated. I thought Saka was the best of all of them. He wasn't great at times but was more dangerous than all of them too. |
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Its all over then?
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No point in us turning up really.
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Great for England in final, you have to give dues. But spaghettis are gonna be a hard nut to crack.
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Where did I say that. I just said it will likely be tougher than tonight and England were pretty awful tonight. Do you disagree?
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Agreed, before tonight's game Italy were way odds on to win the tournament, suddenly England win in extra time and and its all change?? Italy should be the odds on favourites in my opinion.
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italy were odds on because there was a chance they would play Denmark
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the betting says that the strongest team England will have played this tournament are the Jerry's
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Italy's price before tonight reflected the chance that they might meet Denmark.
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It's just so odd, so obvious, yet
nobody fancied us to get this far. Had they not given the pen we were still massive favs to win against a tired and poor team according to most. Italys a new game, I'll take a hand ball winner, or an italian equaliser ruled out as hawkeye missed it,... |
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were England not second favourites after France at one point ... I still say the choice of the SF and final at Wembley reflects the odds .
France were favs for theirs and the same will apply next tournament where the big 5 are concerned |
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France Germany Portugal prices were higher because they were all in the same group
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Home advantage will win it for England anybody that thinks otherwise is a complete fakin Mug.
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England were not awful, the Danish were just very good defensively and hard to break down.
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I thought Saka was the best of all of them. He wasn't great at times but was more dangerous than all of them too.
He had one solitary play where he beat the offside trap by millimetres and drove a telling cross into the box for an own goal. That was the only telling play he made, otherwise he was way out of his depth, although the other three mentioned (Foden, Mount & Grealish) didn't do much better either to be fair. |
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Wright was singing Sterlings praises way too much after the game when he was just OK, Keane asked him if he was his agent
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The main reason Saka got the nod v Germany and Denmark is that they both play with dangerous wing-backs and Saka is the only one who can defend. Himself and Walker kept Maehle and Gosens virtually anonymous. The manager is defence/clean sheet first and Saka did his job well and Southgate would have been happy with him imo. Maehle looked cooked after about an hour and then he took Saka off and put Grealish on.
Mount was completely anonymous. Grealish did very little. Foden came on when Denmark were on their knees and had only 10 men for the last 15 mins and did very little, although England were running the clock down after they scored the second and not really trying to score. Saka wasn't great, but at least he had an impact, unlike the other 3. Was he not involved in the chance Sterling hit straight at Schmeichel just before the first goal? |
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He took Saka off for Grealish in the 69th minute, same minute he made the same substitution v Germany. Then he switched Sterling onto the right and Grealish left in both games.
Saka's role in both games was primarily defensive - he is not the best you have going forward in that position and he wasn't brilliant in either game going forward - but that wasn't his primary role. He did his primary role very well and had more of an impact than the other 3 combined on the attacking side last night. And two of them came on when the opposition were clearly waning physically. |
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Italy play with attacking full backs too. Not sure how Southgate will approach the final but if Spinazzola was playing Saka would be one of the first names on the sheet and mug fans who still don't seem to grasp that the manager is defence/clean sheet first or why he picks Saka would be up in arms over it.
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at times he has a back 6 which goes to a 5 or 4 or down to a 2
funny old system. jones , assistant coach, was messing around with wingers AND wing backs at newcastle last season, most odd at times. 5 at back, and 2 wingers put a helluva lot of your resources out wide. i guess thats why hes got 2 holding mids for balance through middle leaves one striker unless the wingers get inside sterling of course comes inside more, but that gives shaw more to do than the right back whose winger tended to stay wide. |
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Where it began, I can't begin to know when
But then I know it's growing strong Wasn't the spring And spring became the summer Who'd have believe you'd come along Hands, touching hands, reaching out Touching me, touching you Sweet Caroline Good times never seem so good I've been inclined To believe it never would but now I Look at the night And it don't seem so lonely We fill it up with only two And when I hurt Hurting runs off my shoulder How can I hurt when holding you One, touching one, reaching out Touching me, touching you Sweet Caroline Good times never seem so good I've been inclined To believe they never would, oh no no Sweet Caroline Good times never seem so good Sweet Caroline I believe they never could Sweet Caroline |
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Betfair, please put up a market for the number of times Sterling falls.
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I thought Denmark were physical yet quick. They also got away with loads of pro fouls ( without yellow cards ) Italy are good but not great. We have a better than 50/50 chance the odds are correct.
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My first instinct for a match such as this is to do under 2.5 but as it's as short as 1.55 on here I simply cannot back at that price, a first half goal at any time and you're up against it so no bet there. Some of the high street thieves go 4/9
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