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By:
sageform
When: 19 Jun 21 08:16
They are both very moderate teams and any idea that either of them will get past the next round even if they get through the group stage is laughable. Wales are far superior to either of them and changing managers does not change the players. So long as the players in the top 6 clubs of the premier league have to play 50 games a year, we will never have a decent team in June. If I was Southgate, I would start the next game with all of the players in the squad who have not started either of the first 2 games apart from Pickford and then bring on Stirling, Foden etc. at half time. Most of them are mentally and physically exhausted. Some credit is due to the defence that has not conceded a goal but we have the most ineffective attack in the competition-apart from Scotland!!
By:
sageform
When: 19 Jun 21 08:23
Who ever mentioned Mourinho must be joking. He alienates all of his players within 3 years in a job which is why he keeps moving on. Horrible man.
By:
elisjohn
When: 19 Jun 21 08:39
sageform i do agree, players are playing too much football especially some nations league matches, friendlies etc etc, but after saying that, the best footballer on the planet is doing it day in day out for club and country and hes well into late 30s , RONALDO
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 19 Jun 21 09:02
Hopefully now the Jocks will go back to their own country and stop head butting motor cyclists.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 19 Jun 21 09:52
english pundits msm must think scotland is pure sh^t , after comments 0-0 draw  WhoopsWink
By:
xmoneyx
When: 19 Jun 21 09:53
stop head butting motor cyclists.

did u see that on twitter Excited
By:
wolf3011
When: 19 Jun 21 10:04
Why does anyone need to choose club OR international management. Managers in the past have combined the two roles, let's face it international management is just games every other summer and as a club manager presumably you will be watching looking at players as part of your remit anyway.
By:
brigust1
When: 19 Jun 21 10:09
Sage I read your comments about Wales and England but you are sadly misguided. England played poorly last night, that is true, but that happens. Southgate knew this was his chance to guarantee getting to the next round and his team played accordingly. Scotland needed to win and they played accordingly. Southgate will take that, happily. He's through to the next round.
More importantly your comments about Scotland should point you in the direction of Croatia. Croatia are a much better team than Scotland, they need a win and they are odds against to get it. Scotland are around 2/1 to beat Croatia but I simply cannot see that happening. They played above themselves against England and that is making their price ridiculously short. But don't listen to me. The betting shows Croatia 12/1 to reach the semi-finals and Scotland 90s. Croatia 33s to reach the final and Scotland 200/1. Yet next week in a head to head decider they are almost inseparable in the betting. Makes you think, doesn't it?
By:
wolf3011
When: 19 Jun 21 10:11

Jun 19, 2021 -- 8:16AM, sageform wrote:


They are both very moderate teams and any idea that either of them will get past the next round even if they get through the group stage is laughable. Wales are far superior to either of them and changing managers does not change the players. So long as the players in the top 6 clubs of the premier league have to play 50 games a year, we will never have a decent team in June. If I was Southgate, I would start the next game with all of the players in the squad who have not started either of the first 2 games apart from Pickford and then bring on Stirling, Foden etc. at half time. Most of them are mentally and physically exhausted. Some credit is due to the defence that has not conceded a goal but we have the most ineffective attack in the competition-apart from Scotland!!


Why would men in their physical prime be " exhausted" playing 50 games in a year? Do you think other teams have players who don't play a similar number of games? Paid millions of pounds over years for kicking a ball around once a week on a years average for 90 minutes and they are " physically and mentally " exhausted lol

By:
wolf3011
When: 19 Jun 21 10:12
Imagine how these poor lambs would get on doing a 50 hour week in a factory- they would probably collapse on life support for their " exhaustion "
By:
differentdrum
When: 19 Jun 21 11:14
Far too much talk about the manager.

Always the same at league or international level it is the manager who carries the can for inept performances by the players. They are the ones to blame, unless you are accept they have been massively overrated. If they were that good you shouldn't need a manager to explain to them how to beat a team as poor as Scotland.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 19 Jun 21 11:19
MoneyWink

I have seen worse too. Best one though was the girl on the train doonSilly
By:
brians
When: 19 Jun 21 13:42
England have had 3 shots on target in 3 hours of football. Need I say more ?
By:
brigust1
When: 19 Jun 21 13:59
Hi Brains, how are you? You can only play as well as the other team lets you and I thought Scotland played well. I also think Southgate is playing the long game and didn't want to take any chances. All matches cannot be a walkover. I think Scotland will find things completely different against Croatia.
I did watch the France v Germany game and they looked good teams but if they play England I don't think they will be allowed to play like that.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 19 Jun 21 14:54
I agree mostly brigust.  England seemed to play with fear last night, just hoping to pick up a win but more for the point. Dreadful strategy really and Southgate needs to take a long, hard look at himself in my view. I also agree that we'll find Croatia harder.  Not because they're better than England but because we will have to win, and thus play a different game, exposing our defence more.
can't believe people are advocating "dropping" Harry Kane.  Give the guy some service!!!  And maybe a partner he blends with.  Drop the wee whinger, Sterling, who is non productive.
England need to think bigger.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 19 Jun 21 14:59
Scotland are not a "poor" team.  Indeed, it is "teamwork" that worked for us last night, and got us there in the first place.  We might well be an average side but that is something totally different.
Any way, it;s like a poker player whingeing about fish.  If they're so bad how can;t they be beaten?
Look to yourselves and you'll see that Southgate got it all wrong last night.  He effectively played for the  draw - against the weakest side in the group who had just been gubbed at home.  Says it all for me.
By:
brians
When: 19 Jun 21 15:06
I am well Brigust , thanks. Finding this tip tap pass back football totally boring though. Following the NHL , now thats a mans game and 40 shots an hour.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 19 Jun 21 16:17
Hungary take points of France so last night doesn't look so bad

But Italy are surely favourites now judging the form book

And Holland are 2nd in the betting for me
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 19 Jun 21 17:56
Can't have Italy to win it.  They look good but Turkey are very average and Switzerland didn't look too strong either.  As someone said they don't show any pace and rarely get in behind sides.  They do have Locatelli though and he's been exciting to watch.
By:
The Dragon
When: 19 Jun 21 18:43
anaylse it all u want . two poor teams end ofDevil
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