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anyone on here ever been to a soccer match in the 1950s or 60s
anyone on here ever been to a soccer match in the 1950s or 60s
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ive tried to find this on you tube for years, but i remember norman hunter i think it was, it defo was a leeds player around the 70s, he was under pressure very close on his own goal line in front of the goal , and he did the drag back and beat the attacker, it was the coolest piece of defending ive ever seen, does anyone else recall this, it was on tv.
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I don't recall it elisjohn but I do readily remember the late, great Billy Bremner doing that same thing at Easter Road one night. It took the breath away and the Leeds side, full of reserves for some reason, suddenly relaxed, grew in confidence and suddenly looked like a side, and went on to win a tie that Hibs thought they would have in the bag. It was masterly!
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1957 I went with father to Deepdale to watch Preston North End v Arsenal. PNE had a good side then, Arsenal not so much. The stadium was packed and I remember at the back of the stand there were headphones so blind people could listen to a commentary of the game whilst enjoying the atmosphere.
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I went with my father, who didn't particularly like football but I think was intrigued because Blackburn rovers were playing wolves. Derek Dougan was making a return to his old club after requesting a transfer on the day of the 1960 cup final from rovers to the their opponents in this fixture.
I couldn't see much at all and had a very limited view because Ewood was understandably packed for the occasion. We won , I wasn't greatly impressed by the experience , although I came round to watching football a few years later and I still love rovers, had a season ticket for many years prior to the jack walker era. Still have my 1977 ground season ticket , which cost £25, best 25 quid spent ever.l will shut up now because I sound old. |
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I had a schoolmate who lived in Padiham and was a Burnley fan. I went with him a couple of times to Turf Moor, must have been about 1963/4, to watch Clarets v Rovers. Seem to remember they both had decent sides back then.
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They did indeed have decent sides back then cooperman and both rovers and Burnley were big players in the old first division. I went to turf moor a couple of times in the seventies , also watched rovers beat Burnley at Ewood a few times, notably when some of their fans demolished the Darwen end roof before the game was over and chucked the tiles on the pitch!
Shows what a state the ground was in at the time. Ironically I laid Leicester last night and couldn't trade out when Burnley scored last night because bf decided to have a site meltdown. Funny old game isn't it Saint? |
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twoquid, i lost a packet on here last night not able to trade, ive emailed them and had a reply theyre looking into it, will let you know !
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Cheers Eli's think I will do same
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Burnleys top man was andy lockhead bald as a coote but a double handful in the air. They had a little winger as well, cant remember thename , pop robson comes to mind because they had the same.no hair style.
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The epitomy of football in those days was this match
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FIvpVPXf1k4 Watch the last 15 minutes of extra time Mcreadie attempts to take off Bremners head with a flying tackle five foot off the ground Not even a booking..... |
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used to go to Arsenal with my Uncle and his mates as kid saw Mathews,Finley.Lofthouse and Can only remember one Arsenal player George Eastman.He took me to Chelsea once where I saw this young player who went on to become the greatest goal scorer this country has produced Jimmy Greaves. The first game I went to without an adult was Fulham v Manchester United I was eleven MU were 4 up at half time,the Fulham supporters were leaving in droves ,but me and my mate stayed ,the final score was 4-4 .The names in the game Johnny Haynes .Bobby Charlton,think Bobby RobsonAlan Mullery and the man who got the players money upped to £100 a week Jimmy Hill.
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irishone, are you thinking of ralph coates ?
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 Aye, Ralph and Bobby Charlton had the same barber. |
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i went to ipswich to watch boro when dalian atkinson scored a hat trick in a 3 nil defeat,looked the next superstar,but was probably a high watermark,
my dad tells me stories of him and my mam going to matches in late 40,s 50,s in the back of army trucks, common practice for lots of football supporters they said |
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Andy Lochhead thats a blast from the past. Remember him coming to Highbury with Villa and putting the boot into Bob Wilson. Dirty b@stard.
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irishone, the winger might have been willie morgan , sure he was at burnley then went to old trafford.
remember him scoring a fantastic chip for utd actually v burnley on a wet wednesday night league cup match 60,000 there great game utd winning 3-2 around the 75s |
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https://manchesterunitedmemories.wordpress.com/tag/manchester-united-versus-burnley-1974/.
scroll down for clips of w morgan , im sure thats the chip goal |
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theres andy lochead playing for villa https://twitter.com/forgottengoals/status/1075659193863028736
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Lifelong Swans fan, must have seen my first match late 50's?
Distinctly remember watching Swans v Burnley FA Cup match, 0-0 draw. 1960. Went to all Swans matches in 1964 cup run to the semi finals at Villa Park, beaten by PNE. Was at Anfield for the quarter final..beat Liverpool 2-1...shock result of the season, Ronnie Moran skied a penalty in that match. At Stoke the match before, Stanley Matthews scored equalizer for Stoke, first goal he'd scored for years lol. We beat them 2-0 at home in the replay. |
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Remember the Allchurch brothers playing for Swansea Town in the 50s.
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I remember being astonished by that match irish and wondering where all the hostility had come from. I don't instantly remember the McCreadie challenge very well but even Charlie Cook summoned up some guts and had a go at Bremner, as did Hollins. The referee hid in that match and who could blame him - he'd have needed to send off about ten of them! The only other team I ever remember kicking that Leeds side off the park was AC Milan. It didn't happen often at all, as you know. I always agreed with Don Revie when he said if he were ever in the trenches proper the man he would want beside him would be Billy Bremner! Same here. A dirty, niggling little b@stard granted, but much more skilled than ever credited and what a player to have on your side. What heart the man had.
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Ralph coates
That was him Correct ...had the charlton comb over I saw Tottenham in the early 60s Maurice Norman broke his leg Didnt find out until next day He carried on playing... Imagine the fannies doing that today |
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I thought they were all hard when I was a kid, tommy smith (liverpool), the millwall captain left back was a nutter, dave mackay picked bremner up with his collar.
Then I met the complete and utter nutcase known as Vinny Jones. Now he would have had some of Bremner, Chopper Harris etc he couldnt give a feck who he had a fight with. Only over geyser I think I saw who could have handled that sort of football was Jimmy Case, no one fecked with him . |
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Charlie Cooke was way ahead of his time honcho, I saw ronaldo copying his warm up twenty years after. Don Howe didnt take any prisoners , who was the Arsenal axeman ? Peter Storey ? Nearly every team had one , usually a defender, the lower you went down the leagues , the more nutters you saw , earning a wage kicking lumps out of people ! I blame sky and the yanks world cup in 94 for non contact game we have now, clinical purist chess matches, boring watching teams pass the leather off the ball.Bring back the sixties. Only my opinion !
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Harry Cripps......millwall nutter
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Honcho the animousity between them came from the villa park semi final in 1967.Chelsea won 1-0 but Leeds scored two disallowed goals. The second one was from a direct free kick near the end. The ref disallowed it because the Chelsea wall wasnt ten yards back. He should have allowed it because Chelsea were basically wasting time. The retake was unsuccessful. Chelsea won 1-0. From that day for years there was animousity.
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That tackle comes at 1 hour 30 minutes of that video, or roughly 8 minutes from the end in the Chelsea penalty box, mcreadie leaps at Bremner and allegedly catches him in the face with his boot. Probably the worst ever tackle you will see, never got the ball and went unpunished !
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"kicking lumps out of people"
These comments about the great Hughie Gallacher from his fellow pros, confirm your point irish - and this was thirty/forty years earlier than your period quoted: From the very first match he played in England he was a marked man with defenders acting on instructions to stop him scoring at all costs. Scotland goalkeeper Jack Harkness said of him, "I never saw any player with as many scars and hacks." Newcastle teammate and future brother-in-law, George Mathison, recalled, "You had to see his legs to believe the treatment he was given. They were pitted, scarred. You couldn't blame him for losing his cool". This was despite Gallacher playing with a half inch layer of cotton wool padding added inside his shin-pads. |
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would you believe it, but i played around 15 years of non league football, and believe you me the tackles were flying in there in the late70s 80s, and i never once had shin pads.
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Bill Shankly famously called the Southampton team of 1970 "alehouse players" and especially John McGrath.
Eric Martin Joe Kirkup Denis Hollywood Hugh Fisher John McGrath Jimmy Gabriel Terry Paine Mick Channon Ron Davies Brian O'Neil Tom Jenkins |
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From a Southampton fans page.....
"Nicked from Saintsweb. 40 years ago today our non-descript side leapt into the public conscience after beating the mighty Liverpool 1-0 at the Dell. After John McGrath had booted their record teenage signing, Alun Evans, into the West Stand terrace after 5 mins ( he was hoisted onto a stretcher) we "competed" with them until their left-back, Alec Lindsay scored an unfortunate headed own-goal. It was not until the sunday papers that we saw Terry Paine had hold of Lindsay's waist as he went to head it, that you realised how it happened. Bill Shankly went ballistic! Collared all his Fleet Street acolytes and went for us, big time. It was over every paper when we normally didn't warrant a mention. No coverage of every game in those days. Anyway, the name stuck which was quite unfair, as we hadn't had anyone sent off for 7 whole days when Jimmy Gabriel was dismissed whilst being stretcherd off at Leeds. He was able to play against Liverpool though. Great powers of recovery then. probably due to the Magic Sponge. (or alcohol.) |
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Mine was Liverpool vs Either Ipswich or West Brom 1972 season, got the programmes upstairs somewhere, we won both 2-0. Had Keegan Emlyn, Tommy Smith, Clemence and all them great players then. Came 2nd to the Great Leeds teams that year, but next season we won Lague and uefa Cup. Was great being a kid and seeing your team win that early. The kop was nuts. I played against Joe Laidlaw about 35 years ago, his son was playing for them too. Joe obviously getting on a bit then. Was carrying a bit of timber
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John Mcgrath .....now there's a name ,absolutely one of the greatest football nutters of all time, four foot wide...... He managed a few teams and gained a place in the famous pre-match team talk memory book....
"NOW LADS, THIS TEAM ARE LIKE FLIES AROUND A PIECE OF S***, THEY BUZZ ABOUT, HERE, THERE AND EVERYWHERE, YOU WONT BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THEM. ....BUT EVERY NOW AND THEN ONE OF THEM SETTLES ON THE BALL AND WHEN THEY DO YOU HIT 'EM AND SPLAT !" punching a fist into the dressing room wall. Legend ! |
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i remember starting in local soccer aged about 14, we were getting hammered 8-0 half time, told to sit , cup of tea, and the manager was imo ready to give us a right bollocking, ten mins later he hadnt said a word, then as we were ready to go out for 2nd half, he muttered
" LADS WHATEVER YOU DO , DONT CONCEDE THE NEXT GOAL, OR ITLL BE DIFFICULT TO COME BACK INTO THIS MATCH " |
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just watched the racing on tv, and now 15 mins of world of sport, 6 of george best goals v northampton, but the best was when brazil had a free kick v zaire in world cup match, while brazil were thinking of what to do etc, well here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s247cS3-iKQ |
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Hilarious
Then asks the ref why ? Bobby Gould was a complete nutter Called the team into a circle at the training ground Said I know a few of you have been talking to the press and having a dig about me Then throwing a couple of boxing gloves into the middle of the gathering He said "come on , now's yer chance, who is man enough to stand up to me face to face" He went back to the changing room with three broken ribs. |
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The shin pad story reminds me of the day I watched a Crystal Palace match alongside scout Vince Craven the maestro behind Bassetts wimbledon. A player came off the pitch for treatment to a head knock, Craven wrote down "no shin pads" in his book, he said "wally and vinny" will want to know that. Wally was Wally Downes, Vinny was Vinny Jones.
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Another nutty one about Gouldy was he was 3-0 up at half time (just like WBA now) and he walked into the dressing room and said seven words before he walked out "I BET YOU LOT CANT DO THAT AGAIN" and they lost 4-3 !
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same again here perhaps
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