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By:
sparrow
When: 29 Feb 20 17:09
Good performance today with every player putting a shift in. Bowen looks to be a decent signing and Haller does much better with Antonio alongside him. Good direct football with just 34% possession but a long way to go to the end of the season.
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 29 Feb 20 19:46
Chelsea and Liverpool
****s
Yes needed win that
Got Chelsea and yids soon
Bring them on
By:
sparrow
When: 29 Feb 20 19:49
Watford have upset the apple cart now.
By:
Injera
When: 29 Feb 20 21:16
Pleasing performance. Bowen made a huge difference. Haller enjoyed having Antonio and Bowen doing the hard yards.

Never seen Fab have such a quiet day.

Not usually keen on the programme but today’s had good articles on Jimmy Greaves and Paul Allen.
By:
sparrow
When: 29 Feb 20 22:08
I remember being at Maine Road in 1970 for Greaves debut when we won 5-1 and Jimmy scored twice. And we all remember Paul Allen being fouled in the 1980 Cup Final.
By:
Injera
When: 03 Mar 20 19:29
The BT documentary on Jimmy Greaves is superb. What a player and an inspiration re his battles with booze.

They showed his goals at Maine Road that day sparrow.
By:
sparrow
When: 03 Mar 20 20:21
1970 it was injera and I had just moved from London to Yorkshire. The main thing about that match was Boyce's goal from the Corrigan clearance straight back past him.
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 14 Mar 20 11:32
Bollox out Brady mouth
Play rest of the season later in year
If needs be
Finish what’s been started ffs
We go down cos been **** 95% of the season
So be it
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 14 Mar 20 11:33
Brady wants it none and voide
Course she does
By:
11kv
When: 14 Mar 20 12:02
Who the f@ck does she think she is ....
By:
BARNEY15C
When: 14 Mar 20 13:14
Deluded idiot, cant stand the woman.
By:
Emitdeb
When: 14 Mar 20 14:20
Sounds more like Sullivan to me... with his hand up her @rse and without moving his lips... Silly
By:
Injera
When: 14 Mar 20 15:19
Embarrassing the club again. A ridiculous statement.
By:
sparrow
When: 14 Mar 20 15:29
More important things to bother about than what Brady says or doesn't say ffs.
Even though everyone loves to hate the woman who the hell cares anyway?
By:
BARNEY15C
When: 14 Mar 20 15:34
an interesting point came up on SSN if the remaining games are to be played in the Summer, what happens to WHU home fixtures,as they don't own the ground events would have booked the stadium during the off season? I dont think  WHU would have a leg to stand on as regards their games  taking precedence over other events booked as the situation has never come up before.
By:
Injera
When: 14 Mar 20 15:43
Wembley? At least we’ll be closer to the pitch.
By:
sparrow
When: 14 Mar 20 15:44
Spotted Dog ground.
By:
Emitdeb
When: 14 Mar 20 17:55
Sparrow..

Could you put up a fresh list of what we can comment on or discuss... Thanks. Wink
By:
sparrow
When: 14 Mar 20 18:08
Yes emitdeb, just for us West Ham fans of course.
By:
Emitdeb
When: 14 Mar 20 18:10
Shocked
By:
sparrow
When: 14 Mar 20 18:39
First Discussion to be "How much rent rebate are West Ham due following the match cancellations" ?
By:
Emitdeb
When: 14 Mar 20 19:21
Laugh

Bet YOU dont want to renegotiate a new Deal... Laugh

I'll also bet Sadiq would love to discuss it.... Laugh
By:
sparrow
When: 14 Mar 20 19:37
The Baroness sorted it out last time so no chance of any re-negotiation and why on earth should we after they refused to sell the ground to us. But everyone forgets about that bit and just moans about our rent bill.
By:
sparrow
When: 14 Mar 20 19:43
Tom Kershaw @trlkershaw
Thursday 18 October 2018


West Ham’s vice-chairman Karren Brady says the club would consider buying the London Stadium after it was reported that it was losing £20 million per year.

West Ham pay an index-adjusting annual rent which is currently around £3 million, however, the stadium is projected to lose £140 million over the next decade.

The stadium's owners, London Legacy Development Corporation, claimed each West Ham match day costs taxpayers £250,000, but Brady responded by saying the club's offers to help have been dismissed.

"I refuse to accept any criticism that our rent is too low, because that is simply not the case. Costs are too high.

"We would like more control over our matchdays, no one knows how to do that more than us. When we first wanted to move in, we offered to buy the stadium, and we would have been responsible for all costs and that was rejected.

"The amount of expertise that we could give to (landlords) E20 to realise the potential in the naming rights, for example, which is a big part of missing revenue for them, has been disregarded.

"A naming rights sponsor is not interested on the outside of a building, they're interested in the massive global audience the Premier League club generates.

"I think the London Stadium craves direction. I think it should be a jewel in the crown for London, it should be hosting events 365 days a year."

West Ham want to convert the stadium into a full-time football ground which can host occasional events and increase the seating capacity to 60,000. That would come at a cost of £323, although the original forecast was £190 million.

The retractable seating, in particular, which allows for the Olympic Stadium's athletics track has proven to be a serious financial burden and the club has been involved in further disputes over the sale of alcohol and stewarding at the stadium.

If they were to buy the ground, Brady says West Ham wouldn't want to take on the stadium's pre-existing sponsorship agreements and find themselves laboured in the same predicament as the current owners, although the matter is yet to be formally discussed by the board.

"(Buying the stadium is) certainly something we would look at. I think if it was to become a dedicated football stadium, with pop concerts and maybe the occasional rugby match that could be a really seriously good proposition.

"The problem for this stadium is the cost of the seat moves for athletics. That is what drains the proposition of all of its revenue."

"It really should have the commercial expertise it deserves, it should have the financial controls it so readily needs, it does need investment.

"The Premier League generates enormous amounts of sponsorship revenue and this is a wonderful stadium. There is lots of great stadia in this country but there isn't one as iconic as the ex-Olympic Stadium.

"I would have thought it would be relatively easy to sell.
By:
sparrow
When: 15 Mar 20 10:34
Angelo Ogbonna has attacked the Premier League’s response to the coronavirus outbreak, with the West Ham defender accusing English football’s governing bodies of “ignoring” the potential risk to players.

“It was almost as if they wanted to ignore such a serious problem ... [or] almost waiting for someone to die before taking action,” Ogbonna told Italy’s Corriera della Sera newspaper on Friday.

The Italy centre-back said he was “happy and relieved” that the Premier League and EFL had now been suspended, but added that English football’s slow response reflected wider attitudes in the UK.

“It’s not just football, but this problem is ingrained in the English mentality. They still don’t realise the danger of a virus that can be passed on in seconds,” he said. “I haven’t been tested or checked over in any way. [There is] an attitude that is superficial, at the very least.”

Ogbonna also condemned the decision to allow West Ham’s away game at Arsenal to go ahead. “It’s completely unacceptable,” the 31-year-old said. “They had just played against Olympiakos, whose president tested positive for coronavirus.”

Evangelos Marinakis announced his positive test on 10 March, three days after West Ham’s 1-0 defeat at the Emirates Stadium. Arsenal have not played since then, with players and staff entering self-isolation on 11 March.
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 04 Apr 20 23:21
Www.football365.com

Footballer that’s gave his monthly wage away
The last 3 years

Top bloke mark noble tells it how it is
By:
sparrow
When: 06 Apr 20 06:52
West Ham’s board plans to inject at least £30m into the club by launching a rights issue in response to the financial problems caused by the coronavirus pandemic.

With English football suspended because of the crisis and Premier League footballers yet to agree to reduce wages, there is growing concern within boardrooms about income. Some clubs have reacted to the postponement of the season by placing non-football staff on furlough.

West Ham, who are owned by David Sullivan and David Gold, are looking to go down a different route. The club, whose full-time and part-time staff remain on full pay, have agreed to a rights issue, which is an invitation to existing shareholders to buy additional shares. Sullivan, whose 51% stake makes him the majority shareholder, has already agreed to do so.

Whether the money raised rises above £30m will depend on how many accept the offer. If they decide not to take up their rights the shares will be offered elsewhere.

It is understood the process will take place in May. While West Ham have no financial problems at the moment, that is likely to change if there is no prospect of their season resuming. Clubs are set to suffer serious losses of earnings and have warned players they could lose up to an estimated £1.137bn if the season does not resume. That is partly because they may have to return £750m in broadcasting money if the season is not completed.


West Ham have lost money in gate receipts and broadcasting revenue. Their matches against Wolves, Newcastle, Chelsea and Tottenham were due to be shown on television. West Ham, whose accounts for the last financial year showed an expected pre-tax loss of £28.8m, would also normally be selling next year’s season-tickets now but the club shops are shut.

Given that context West Ham are keen to protect themselves. They are in favour of players reducing pay through wage cuts, deferrals or a combination of both. Karren Brady, the club’s vice-chair, has criticised the Professional Footballers’ Association for standing in the way of cuts.

“With no date for restarting the league, this is having severe financial implications,” Brady wrote in the Sun. “Bearing in mind the majority of the broadcast revenue goes to pay the players’ wages it is unthinkable that the PFA don’t seem to understand this.”
By:
Reynard
When: 06 Apr 20 13:16
West Ham still suffering from Co-owner virus Sad
By:
lovegod
When: 06 Apr 20 14:27
I imagine sales of self pleasuring instruments must be on the rise with this isolation, West Ham will be rich enough to buy the stadium.
By:
Reynard
When: 06 Apr 20 14:59
^^^^^^^^^^ says the poster who takes their username from one such product Grin
By:
sparrow
When: 06 Apr 20 16:34
Grin
By:
sparrow
When: 06 Apr 20 16:41
David Moyes is taking a voluntary 30% pay cut at West Ham to help the club through the financial problems caused by the coronavirus crisis.

Moyes is the third Premier League manager known to have agreed a wage reduction, after Bournemouth’s Eddie Howe and Brighton’s Graham Potter.

The move comes as talks continue at top-flight clubs, also involving the Professional Footballers’ Association, with a view to reducing player wages at a time when income streams have dried up.

West Ham have not furloughed any staff and plan to inject at least £30m into the club by launching a rights issue.

Topics
By:
sparrow
When: 12 Apr 20 07:51
West Ham agree wage deferrals while owners delay interest payments

Captain Mark Noble instrumental in talks

Karren Brady also agrees to forgo percentage of salary


West Ham have followed in Southampton’s footsteps and become the second Premier League side to reach an agreement over wage deferrals with their players, who have agreed to go without a portion of their pay to ensure that non-playing staff continue to receive their salaries in full.

The east London club soothed their financial concerns following productive talks between the board and the first-team squad, who agreed to defer their pay after the financial disruption caused by the coronavirus pandemic was explained to them. Shows of good faith on both sides of the negotiating table helped smooth the process, with the club’s vice-chair, Karren Brady, and the manager, David Moyes, accepting 30% deferrals and the owners, David Gold and David Sullivan, deferring interest payments on shareholder loans.


It emerged earlier this week that West Ham plan to do a rights issue to raise at least £30m next month, laying bare the consequences of the coronavirus crisis forcing the suspension of English football last month. The club made a proposal suggesting the players accept 30% deferrals on Thursday. It is believed that the players, who have been led by their captain, Mark Noble, have agreed a lower percentage, albeit one higher than the 10% deferral Southampton’s squad agreed earlier this week.

Negotiations over pay have rumbled throughout the Premier League since the postponement of the season. However, attempts to reach a collective agreement over 30% deferrals across the league reached a dead end last weekend, forcing clubs to go it alone. Manchester City are also understood to be in talks with their players over deferrals.



Four top-flight clubs – Bournemouth, Newcastle, Norwich and Tottenham – have placed non-playing staff on furlough. However, West Ham have continued to pay full-time and casual staff in full.

Brady said: “I would like to say a big thank you to David Moyes and his backroom team, our captain Mark Noble and our fantastic squad of players for the commitment and determination they have shown to offer their help and support. I would also like to thank the shareholders whose support through this injection of equity once again demonstrates their commitment to the future of the Club.”

Noble said: “As players we have been in constant dialogue with the Club since the situation around Covid-19 emerged and I am proud that our entire squad have made clear their strong desire to play our part in helping to support others through this situation.”
By:
sparrow
When: 12 Apr 20 08:49
How many of you knew this?


A quirk alluded to in this Jacob Steinberg piece caught the eye of Justin Horton, namely that last season marked the first since 1986 that West Ham ended a top-flight season with a positive goal difference. “Can any readers come up with longer negative-goal-difference sequences than the Irons have accomplished?” he asks.
By:
Reynard
When: 12 Apr 20 09:22
This is the longest we've gone unbeaten in a fair while Tongue Out
By:
sparrow
When: 12 Apr 20 10:59
The thing is reynard to listen to some people our last season at Upton Park was a roaring success Laugh
By:
sparrow
When: 12 Apr 20 11:07
And they would be right and that statistic is wrong as the 2015/16 season ended with a positive goals difference

7    West Ham United    38    16    14    8    65    51    +14    62    Grin
By:
colupaul
When: 16 Apr 20 20:29
I'm dreaming of a Frank Lampard
Just like the one at Elland Road
The ball came over
And Frank fell over
And scored the ****ing winning goal


40 years ago tonight, one of my football following highlights, memories vague now but remember the goals, being pulled up into the seats above the standing area at full time, something kicking off in the coach park after, getting dropped off by the coach at Upton Park at some unearthly hour and starting to walk home and some kind chap picking us up and dropping us in Hornchurch, stroke of luck that was... the most vivid memory of that night was the noise the Everton fans made when Bob Latchford equalised, never thought we'd recover from that, until Frank popped up, what was he doing up there anyway?
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 17 Apr 20 00:02
Great memories Paul
had some good ones myself over the years
Even this season out with the boys away to Chelsea
In the box getting on it coming away with the win
Singing on the tube packed with the rent boys
Laugh
By:
sparrow
When: 01 May 20 08:42
Being starved of any action I thought I would post this story of a match played by our best ever team in our best ever season.


The forgotten story of ... Alvin Martin's hat-trick past three goalkeepers

On 21 April 1986 the West Ham defender scored a historic treble against an injury-ravaged Newcastle in an 8-1 win at Upton Park




On 21 April 1986 West Ham welcomed Newcastle United for the 37th and, as it turned out, most memorable match of their greatest league campaign. They were fifth in the table but with genuine title pretentions, holding as they did between two and four games in hand on those above them, and had won six of their past eight matches.

Newcastle’s previous seven games had featured 30 goals at an average of 4.3 each and the Guardian’s chief football writer, David Lacey, in his report on their relatively dreary 1-1 draw at Chelsea two days earlier, had concluded that “if Newcastle’s defence repeats its sluggish performance West Ham should net a shoal of goals”. It was quite the prediction: at Upton Park, in a state of complete, injury-enforced disarray, they conceded eight.


The match is most commonly remembered for Alvin Martin’s hat-trick, the first of his career and the first scored in the league against three different goalkeepers, and for the exuberant attacking of a West Ham team that would eventually miss out on the title by four points (and a bit of goal difference). “It was,” Robert Armstrong wrote in the Guardian, “an extraordinary performance even by the high standards of skill, pace and finishing power the Hammers set themselves.” But as that hat-trick statistic suggests, it was a night of wild misfortune for the visitors. As the Hammers’ Newcastle-born assistant manager Mick McGiven put it after the match: “United should forget all about the result – I can hardly remember a team having so much bad luck in one game.”

Jeff Clarke, an ever-present all season at the heart of defence, was out with a knee injury; Glenn Roeder, who had recently recovered from food poisoning, scored an own goal and conceded a penalty; Chris Hedworth, a 21-year-old academy graduate whose five previous first-team appearances had come at centre-half or right-back, was crowbarred into midfield; John Anderson started in defence but because of a strained achilles and with the team’s one permitted substitution used up ended hobbling uselessly on the right wing, unable to do such basic activities as running and kicking.

In goal, at least at the start, was Martin Thomas, who had suffered a shoulder injury in training in early March and missed seven games before coming back and promptly injuring the shoulder again. Gary Kelly, his back-up, had only just had his plaster removed following a knee operation and Kelly’s replacement, David McKellar, who arrived on loan from Hibernian having not played a first-team game for nine months, had picked up hip and groin injuries in that draw at Chelsea, forcing Thomas to prematurely return. “Really there was no way I should have been playing but it was a case of having to because Dave found that the hip injury he had picked up at Chelsea had spread to his groin,” Thomas said. “He could hardly walk.”

Thomas’s fragile fitness lasted all of two minutes, when he “landed awkwardly and tore all the muscles in my shoulder”. Two minutes later Hedworth fouled Neil Orr, Alan Devonshire floated a free-kick into the area and Martin volleyed in. In the 11th minute Ray Stewart’s long-range drive went through Thomas’s hands, then a similar if more central effort from Orr did likewise. Roeder’s backheeled own goal made if 4-0 at the interval, which was when Thomas gave up.

   

Peter Beardsley, who would occasionally play in goal during training sessions, volunteered to replace him but the manager, Willie McFaul, refused to allow it. “I was not prepared to throw in the towel,” he said. “I wanted him to stay where he was because there was always a chance that he could have pulled a goal back for us.” Hedworth was chosen instead. “I haven’t played in goal since I was a schoolboy, but I had injured my knee early in the game and I felt I had no alternative to give it a go,” he said.

Ten minutes later he fractured a collarbone in a collision with Tony Cottee; he persevered for a while, but after Martin headed in a 64th-minute corner he also gave up. He moved to left midfield, forming with Anderson the game’s all-time least mobile pair of wingers. “It took guts to do what he did,” said McFaul. “How he carried on does not bear thinking about.” (Three weeks later, and without making another appearance, Hedworth was released on a free transfer.)

Ironically it was only after Beardsley finally went in goal that Newcastle pulled a goal back, through Billy Whitehurst. It took until the 81st minute for West Ham to score their sixth, but the seventh came within two minutes and then the referee, Bob Hamer, spotted a handball from Roeder a few seconds after the restart. Stewart was the team’s official penalty taker, but Martin insisted he get a chance to complete his hat-trick.

“I got a rollicking from [the manager] John Lyall when we got back into the dressing-room,” he later said. “I’d never taken a penalty before. In fact, it was the only one I ever took in my career … I have to say, Peter did not fill me with fear as he stood there. I stared at the bottom left corner and stared again. He thought I was bluffing but that’s where I put it. He dived the wrong way.”


The match ended with West Ham’s fans serenading Beardsley with chants of “England’s No 1”, while Newcastle’s own supporters refused to let the scoreline deter them from celebrating an impressively gutsy if wildly unfortunate display. “All the lads had a go and in the circumstances I just wished we had kept it to five,” concluded McFaul.

For one visiting player the discomfort did not end with the final whistle: England were due to play Scotland at Wembley two days later, and Beardsley had arranged to stay with a friend in London in case Bobby Robson decided to call on him. With hindsight, however, he would probably have asked someone other than Alvin Martin.
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