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***** ARSENAL CHIT CHAT *****
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2Bellerín 20Mustafi 5Papastathopoulos 18Monreal 29Guendouzi 34Xhaka 8Ramsey 10Özil 14Aubameyang 9Lac This side really ought to be beating CC but it looks unbalanced. At least two player will be playing out of position which is a choice Emery has made when there is no need to do so. |
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Poor stuff again.
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Emery gets another display that screams his team selection is wrong. For 3 games now I have thought this will be the week for the change and waited to see a team sheet with no Xhaka and nobody playing out of position - still waiting.
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jed....are you there ?
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Another disjointed performance and we have possibly the shakiest looking defence in the division. This has all the makings of a very long season.
Cardiff hadn't scored until yesterday but they got two and should have had at least one more. Torreira has to start surely? |
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That passing out of the back is the worst ive seen from any team in a long time, that is embarrassing.
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Why isn't Leno playing, is he injured?
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Emery was asked what Torriera has to do to get in the starting 11 and in his reply he said Xhaka was very important. I back the manager but what he is seeing is way beyond my comprehension. Xhaka clearly has not learned a f...ing thing from his errors of last season.
We have huge issues but starting with the best players playing in their correct positions would be a good place to begin to address them. |
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I'm here, did you think your victories over a couple of next season's Championship sides would keep me away?
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All good Jed, helping keep the new thread alive, not the same since JJ thread gone, or maybe everyone's missing AW
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Always worth coming on to read enpassant doing his nut thinking he knows better than the manager.
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Oh jed, there you are. Good that your back on Arsenal threads. It is understandable it took a few days to get over the disappointment of losing to Watford...wasn't even a semi final so it must have made it all the more difficult. Never mind, chin up jeddy you little soldier.
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Wenger was always worth a few hundred posts when he fecked up.
Jed has a season of crowing before we get back to our rightful place - being above them. Enjoy your day in the sun Jed, won't last much longer.  |
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Without sustained investment in improving the quality of the squad we have, I suspect that our neighbours will continue to finish above us for the next two seasons at least. After a dismal run of managers, they've found a diamond and the key for them will be holding on to him. I couldn't help but feel that his downbeat demeanour after both the Man U and Watford games hinted that all is not well behind the scenes there. He's clearly an ambitious manager and will want backing in the transfer market in the months ahead. If Spuds continue to impress in the league and Europe, he'll be a target for a bigger club - and we all know that money talks.
The season hasn't taught us much so far. Lost to two teams who'll probably finish top 4. As Jed points out, beat two teams destined to struggle, but very unconvincing in each of those. The manager seems happy that we're 'improving' but the players look extremely uncomfortable trying to play the style of football being demanded of them. Next two games will reveal more, and I think we're capable of dropping points in each of them. |
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Investment is always neccessary, and what's worrying is so called 'lesser' teams than us having outspent us during the window.
Emery seems to change things during gametime when he sees something wrong. Never saw the point in persisting with a tactic/player that's not working. We are still a long way from being a title challenger but give Emery the time and we will see the rewards. Regarding Pochettino, thought he was the dogs when he improved Tottenham leaps and bounds. But in the games against Man Utd [cup semi] and Juve he was like a rabbit trapped in the headlights, when things went pear-shaped. |
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I'm a gooner but, Poch never done too bad against classless mourinho last week
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Anyway, i think this could be Poch last season at the Spuds, a bigger team will call, he will go, Levy would have spent too much on the stadium,
Won't invest in the team, then you'll have the sinking ship scenario. |
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I agree with you in part dambuster. In terms of 'bigger' teams though, there are only a handful in Europe and possibly Man U, should any of those posts become available, who would be able to buy him out. What I like about him as a manager is his commitment to young talent and the attitude that "if you don't want to play, you can go".
Emery has a really tough job on his hands. We haven't actually spent that much as we've recouped a lot of transfer money in the last three windows through selling Giroud, Walnut etc and, looking at the squad, there doesn't appear to be many players we could now get a decent return on given ages, reputation and current wages. We all know that the club is tight as when it comes to transfer dealings, so it will take something spectacular for us to be able to compete for a Top 4 finish again, imho. |
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Wenger was left to his own devices and has left the club in sh1t street imo.
i feel sorry for Emery, as he needs time to get his own players in, it must be like going to a cricket team and getting them to play rounders |
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Agree again in part.
The board have to take some responsibility. Other clubs evolved and we didn't. Over the years, the Board effectively hung Wenger out to dry and he was loyal enough to take it. With a limited budget compared to others, he always delivered Top 4 and that was probably the height of the Board's ambitions/requirements. |
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Yes , agree partly as well,The board are to blame, they should have let Wenger go 7/8 years ago, but they were all happy with mediocrity.
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Wenger changed overnight when David Dein was released from his position.
That man is Mr Arsenal. |
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When Dein left Arsenal in 2008 Wenger asked him whether he wished him to resign from the post of manager in support for his friend. How much richer Wenger's legacy would have been if Dein had said yes?
The two are still very close, even holidaying together in Turkey this year (according to the Daily Mail!) |
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Turkey !! You'd think with there money they'd go somewhere better than Pinky & Perky..
Yes, if Wenger had gone then, he'd have been regarded as a Legend, and would have probably picked up another top club, but for all that Ivan Gazidis said about Wenger walking into any job & how lucky we are to have him, i've not seen many offers yet. |
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the people who are in control of the scouting at arsenal, havent found any good players to buy for years,
they have been useless at spotting emerging talent, cant be all about money. |
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Wenger IS a legend. Arguably the greatest manager we've ever had, in fact you could only make a case for Chapman.
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The greatest agent for change in the history of English football pixie, an absolute titan of the game.
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For the first 10 years yes, the rest of the time he was stealing a living
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Yeah, & what a legacy Le Fraud has left:
a geriatric goalie a defence that is clueless about defending a midfield that consists of a donkey (Xhaka) & a vastly overpaid show pony (no prizes for guessing). Seems like W4anker was determined to ensure that whoever took over wouldn't inherit a foundation anywhere as good as when he bacame boss. |
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Agree Wes. and wheres all these job offers Gazidis was telling us about, i thought we were suppose to be lucky to still have him !!
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It takes Wenger to kick us off again.
 He was an Arsenal legend but imo severely tainted his legacy. He stayed on way too long and allowed complacency to become the norm. Will be tough for Emery as we need new blood. Don't see SK allowing him to buy the neccessary to take us back to where we used to be. Still expect 3 pts tomorrow and would be nice to have a clean sheet. |
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A legend, yes, but a great manager, no. Played the best football we've ever played but couldn't organise a defence to save his life or pick out decent defenders. That's a serious flaw and don't think he'd ever have been considered a great or a legend if it weren't for Graham's defence. But nobody will remember that. Wouldn't have lasted til 2000 without that defence, 1999 if he'd inherited the defence he left us with.
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Lots of revisionism when it comes to Wenger's defences. To his credit, he put together the invincibles defence of Lauren, Kolo Toure, Sol Campbell and Ashley Cole. Conceded just 26 in 38 games.
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No Torriera again.
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Better passer, more mobile, faster, better tackler than Xhaka....still don't get it....does anyone have a theory ?
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Xhaka had one of his better halves yesterday. Poor in the 1st he was allowed much more freedom when Torriera took the DM role (but also set up attacks and ffs must start). Xhaka's long range passing is a cut above his appalling short passes and the 2nd half highlighted why he cannot play as the DM. He really ought to be in a direct fight with Ramsey for a place. Great strike for the goal and ought to do his confidence a power of good. At his best in the more roaming role I am still not convinced he is able to keep his place in the side but while that sorts itself out he does have the long range pass to feed Lacca and PEA.
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Has anyone seen jed ?
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Former Arsenal defender William Gallas claimed the prospect of facing the likes of Didier Drogba caused former team-mate Philippe Senderos to panic before matches.
Swiss international Senderos had a famously difficult time taming former Chelsea striker Drogba, who scored more goals against Arsenal than any other team he faced in his career. The Ivorian scored 13 goals in 15 games against the Gunners, including a brace to inflict a mortal blow on Arsenal’s 2007-08 title challenge and both in the 2007 League Cup Final. Drogba was not the only striker Senderos struggled against in over 100 games for the north London side, something which Gallas puts down to particularly strong pre-match nerves. “I knew Philippe Senderos, before a match he would need to speak a lot, you could see that he was sweating, that he did not feel good," he told Le Vestiaire. "Especially against certain players. I saw him against Chelsea, against Didier Drogba, where he would genuinely panic, like he was going through his match before playing it. "And unfortunately, when you saw him on the pitch, he lost his playing abilities, he didn’t play well. But against his own team-mates, he played better.” After seven years at the club Senderos eventually departed Arsenal in 2010, subsequently spending four years at Fulham. The 33-year-old now plays for MLS side Houston Dynamo |
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I'm a little worried now: jed has been absent all weekend.
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