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By:
themightymac
When: 30 Mar 15 23:58
rocknmoll - I don`t know about BF t&c`s but I know one thing, if anybody that layed 0-0 HT or FT doesn`t get paid, then BF is being run by a bunch of ******* muppets. Those bets are unconditionally determined winning bets just the same as your 1 goal or more in the match. If you placed these bets with bookies then you have already been paid out.

I bet a team that was winning 3-0 with 5 mins to play and the game got abandoned due to crowd trouble. I was robbed, but the bet was void and rightly so, because the outcome was undetermined - the other team could have scored 3 goals in the last 5 mins.
By:
The Special One™
When: 30 Mar 15 23:58

Mar 30, 2015 -- 11:56PM, Westender wrote:


No point TSOA packet of bacon won then ripped out the hands before you stick a rasher on the George Foreman


You had a bet ont he game just abandoned Westennder?

Nothing worse than smelling the Bacon in the george foreman grill and than having it snayched out the grill before yoru eyes

By:
Grudgebet
When: 30 Mar 15 23:58
Sorry guys this is a new one on me, I had arsenal to win so does this mean I could get my £200 back ?
By:
The Special One™
When: 30 Mar 15 23:59
Dpends if game is replayed in 3 days or federation decision made, if neither then bets void and stake returned in 3 days as per usual abandoned game rules
By:
The Special One™
When: 31 Mar 15 00:00
Glad i came on too late too get involved in abandoned Arsenal game
By:
Westender
When: 31 Mar 15 00:01
Layed 0-0 as knew every Arsenal team has a poor defence.

Arsene's tactics widely used by Arsenal teams all over the world now Laugh
By:
Grudgebet
When: 31 Mar 15 00:03
Sorry does federation decision mean they can decide the result or just to name the rearranged fixture if any ?
By:
themightymac
When: 31 Mar 15 00:03
LaughLaugh
By:
themightymac
When: 31 Mar 15 00:04
That was at westender
By:
rocknmoll
When: 31 Mar 15 00:05
MightyMac, I don't disagree with the logic, but then when has Betfair been run by people blessed with such. I think as Darlo said it comes down to the use of the word market, and in this case it is not a settled market.
By:
muzzyeire
When: 31 Mar 15 00:07
unless the game is finished or replayed in 3 days you will get your £200 back
By:
themightymac
When: 31 Mar 15 00:08
I can see what you lot are saying but if that`s correct then that is criminal. If this has happened to you guys before then seriously I would not bet with them again. It`s nothing more than robbery and the person who came up with the Rule must have been on acid at the time or knows f*** all about betting.
By:
DirkDiggler
When: 31 Mar 15 00:11
Blimey, what's been going on here then? I missed this game and went shopping in handcuffs instead...
By:
Grudgebet
When: 31 Mar 15 00:11
Thanks muzzyeire, watch this space then...............I am guessing as they are due to play Velez on saturday night this will not get rescheduled ?
By:
Westender
When: 31 Mar 15 00:12
Fellaini coming on for Cerro Porteno
By:
The Special One™
When: 31 Mar 15 00:14

Mar 31, 2015 -- 12:08AM, themightymac wrote:


I can see what you lot are saying but if that`s correct then that is criminal. If this has happened to you guys before then seriously I would not bet with them again. It`s nothing more than robbery and the person who came up with the Rule must have been on acid at the time or knows f*** all about betting.


but thats the terms and conditions rule you agree to when you join and bet

If you ticked that box which you have to when you join then you agree to the 3 day rule

By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 31 Mar 15 00:17
This is nothing to do with a three day rule TSO. It's the fact that an impossible result is not determined until 90 minutes whereas essentially identical markets are already settled when impossible. There is no theoretical difference between laying 0-0 and backing Over 0.5 goals, but Betfair's T&Cs mean one is a winner and the other void when the match is abandoned at 1-0.
By:
The Special One™
When: 31 Mar 15 00:17
anyone who bets full bank everytime will be left fundless now for 3 days
By:
The Special One™
When: 31 Mar 15 00:18

Mar 31, 2015 -- 12:17AM, Darlo Bantam wrote:


This is nothing to do with a three day rule TSO. It's the fact that an impossible result is not determined until 90 minutes whereas essentially identical markets are already settled when impossible. There is no theoretical difference between laying 0-0 and backing Over 0.5 goals, but Betfair's T&Cs mean one is a winner and the other void when the match is abandoned at 1-0.


Yes i agree, it should be 1 rule for all, but dont forget BF is a business where commission for them is KING

By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 31 Mar 15 00:19
How does that make any sense? By not settling a market, or at least part of it, Betfair are losing out on commission. (And good will.)
By:
DirkDiggler
When: 31 Mar 15 00:19
rocknmoll - I don`t know about BF t&c`s but I know one thing, if anybody that layed 0-0 HT or FT doesn`t get paid,


That's not right, if there's been a goal then that's that irrespective of any abandonment.
By:
rocknmoll
When: 31 Mar 15 00:21
If they settled the 0-0 bets and voided say, the 0-2 bets they leave themselves open to interpretation of their rules. It must be black and white and 0-0 is part of the unsettled correct score market. It's an impossible result, but the final result will never be known, so all bets must be voided.
By:
The Special One™
When: 31 Mar 15 00:21

Mar 31, 2015 -- 12:19AM, DirkDiggler wrote:


rocknmoll - I don`t know about BF t&c`s but I know one thing, if anybody that layed 0-0 HT or FT doesn`t get paid, That's not right, if there's been a goal then that's that irrespective of any abandonment.


Only bet that would be paid out would be over 0.5 here

Cant see anything else being paid out, No HT markets would be paid out since match up to HT wasnt completed, so laying 0-0HT or laying the draw HT, would all be subject tot the 3-day rule

By:
themightymac
When: 31 Mar 15 00:24
Dirk if you read the post correctly we agree but badly outnumbered. Now I know how Custer felt at Little Big Horn Sad
By:
DirkDiggler
When: 31 Mar 15 00:28
Only bet that would be paid out would be over 0.5 here

Cant see anything else being paid out, No HT markets would be paid out since match up to HT wasnt completed, so laying 0-0HT or laying the draw HT, would all be subject tot the 3-day rule



Really glad I missed this is all I can say. It's harsh on HT 0-0 layers who have already won, T and C's be damned.
By:
DirkDiggler
When: 31 Mar 15 00:31
Dirk if you read the post correctly we agree but badly outnumbered. Now I know how Custer felt at Little Big Horn Sad


I was agreeing with you mac, I meant it's not right folks aren't getting paid on bets they've won. Are you bothering with the 1AM games?
By:
rocknmoll
When: 31 Mar 15 00:31
Still £8 available on Rubio Nu 0-0 at 1000 if anyone interested.
By:
DirkDiggler
When: 31 Mar 15 00:31
It's harsh on HT 0-0 layers

And FT layers obv.
By:
themightymac
When: 31 Mar 15 00:34
only if you give me something to bet mate, I`ve no opinion on the games, you watch all the time and know all the teams well. What u think?
By:
themightymac
When: 31 Mar 15 00:45
I knew that I heard gun shots during the match. Taken from Argentinian website match report, which I translated from Spanish:

A clash between supporters of the Viaduct and police equipment made it impossible to continue the match, the shark leading 1-0.

The hooligans again take center stage in a journey of Argentine football, marked by games played without an audience. This time, a confrontation with police outside the stadium in Sarandi Ariel Penel forcing the referee to suspend the match between Arsenal and Aldosivi at 30 minutes the first time.

In football, the shark had got the advantage on 22 minutes. A long ball in the attack fought, won and held the Colombian Roger Martinez. The front waited and made ​​space for entry to the left of Diego Lagos , who defined and managed to cross the viaduct 1-0.

However, the half-hour mark the shots began to be heard repeatedly and the public in the stands began rioting to stop game actions. Referee Chief Operating consulted, who offered no guarantees to continue the game after 10 minutes of waiting. It remains to know the date for rescheduling the meeting.
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 31 Mar 15 00:48
I posted a link above to a video but it got lost in everything else.

https://twitter.com/lautarosalucho/status/582655807650701312

A copper is in hospital from another report I read.
By:
themightymac
When: 31 Mar 15 00:48
Dirk where art thou? Fast approaching kick offs. Any strong opinions?
By:
themightymac
When: 31 Mar 15 00:49
Cheers darlo, sad state of affairs.
By:
DirkDiggler
When: 31 Mar 15 01:02
I'm just thinking take a look at Tigre game they look at bit more solid then the home favs in the other game, only lost 1 of last 6 to top of the league team. With the lower teams especially I don't usually have a bet until i've watched for a while, might luck into a goalsy game, though neither match looks promising on that front.
By:
DirkDiggler
When: 31 Mar 15 01:16
Risked a bit on ovs Tigre.
By:
themightymac
When: 31 Mar 15 01:18
Cheers. What about Argentinas Juniors match?
By:
themightymac
When: 31 Mar 15 01:26
I started another thread best to go there.
By:
DirkDiggler
When: 31 Mar 15 01:28
Ok.
By:
SILVINIACO-CONTI
When: 31 Mar 15 06:51
I recall this has happened a few times in All Boys games recently, such as in 2013 vs Velez. I've been on the wrong end of both. Some people will be delighted but don't count your chickens yet, these games have been rescheduled within 3 days before (albeit only a small chance it will).
By:
SILVINIACO-CONTI
When: 31 Mar 15 07:14
If someone or a group at a game in Argentina put thousands on 0-0 ht or ft, and a goal goes in, they could effectively call the game off themselves. This happened v soon after the goal. But it's probably coincidence. Lesson learned anyway.
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