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Ridiculous Statement from Ministry of Justice on Ched Evans
Ridiculous Statement from Ministry of Justice on Ched Evans
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'so once hes done his time in prison (as everyone else is saying here that evans has done), then everyone supporting evans to go back into football would also campaign to get rofl back on television presenting kids tv??? what a sick lot'
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what sort of idiot are you to generalise everyone on this thread like that when it's so fractious?
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let me make it really simple then as your finding this so difficult to comprehend
lets take subject A, a footballer, hes a convicted rapist, got 4 years for it and hes served 2 years, half of it and out on licence after 2 years, he has to behave for the next 2 years, that's why he cant work overseas as probation officer has to visit him once a week Subject B, a tv presenter, convicted as a peedo, currently serving time in prison Now everyone is saying subject A has served his time (wrong, hes served half) and wants to return to football, as its highly paid and nice work if you can get it, its privileged position really as your seen as a role model like it or not Now Subject B has done his time and out of prison and wants to return back to his tv presenting career because that's all he knows, now if hes blocked from this or there is a campaign against him then all the rapist supporters would come out in force to make sure Subject B returns to our screens presenting family shows, THATS WHAT MAKES ME SICK - I hope that answer's your question |
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as i don't know what exactly the threads were i cant comment on that, but im happy the threats got that vile club that signed a murderer previously to pull out of the signing rapist deal
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Any one remember that quote from Claudia Cardinali in 'Once upon a Time in the West'
after being raped, 'it least it does not kill me' or some such Probably does not get shown much nowadays  |
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he has not 'served his time' - he is out on licence and continues to serve his time in that fashion.
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you know you're on the side of the thicko's when 'Arry comes out with the same thing
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), then everyone supporting Evans to go back into football would also campaign to get rofl back on television presenting kids tv??? what a sick lot
actually NO special one Paedophilia is far more serious offence than RAPE by a mile Paedophillia can seriously screw up children for life, adult women are actually quite resilient after being raped, even though it is a pretty awful experience I agree. I do not agree with rapists put on the sex offenders register or being restricted to this country This is something women have put over on men. Even taking advantage of a drunken women is not rape either, another thing women have put over on us Women do this because they want control over men that is all. Their other halves have to agree or they do not get sex. Sex is very hard to defeat by argument. I think Evans is innocent, even by todays definition of the law. ps I have a female friend, she don't post on here, or would know my forum name anyway. If she did I doubt I would dare to post the stuff I post. My image is a very much a keyboard image, perhaps my secret revenge on women, I am actually quite mild in real life erm well maybe mild is going a bit |
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Strictly Evans will never complete his sentence, unless his conviction is overturned. He has to sign the sex offenders register for life, and were he to continue playing in football, that would have an impact on female staff he may have to come into contact with who, I believe, have to be made aware of his previous convictions.
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ebul, I don't know whether your comments are more surprising or the fact you have a female friend
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what percentage re offend?
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all this about returning to his job the media totty up in arms,
but there must be 1000,s of convicted rapists,sex offenders out there who,ve remarried,have girlfriends,interact with sisters , mothers etc,i wonder what all these 1000,s of women think about the way evans is been treated nust make them feel very small,rightly or wrongly |
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That's a new corker for Ebul. Rapists shouldn't be put on the sex offenders register.
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rapists are beasts - they should be shot dead immediately .
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I wish Blackpool would sign him! We need all the help we can get. The club are rich enough to not need sponsors input anyway!
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He'd get the right support from Oyston to be fair.
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Darlo!!!!! You may need to retract that! Google Ragazzino and west lancs evening gazette!!!!
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!!!
And all I was trying to say was some clubs have great support networks in place for players!!! |
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I thought so. You are a sound chap Darlo!!Hehehe.
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Shrewd_dude • January 9, 2015 6:01 PM GMT
That's a new corker for Ebul. Rapists shouldn't be put on the sex offenders register. Cry I give my opinion, yes I believe that |
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So a register set up for the purpose of keeping track of sexual offenders shouldn't have those who commit the most serious sexual offence on it?
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It is for Paedophiles only, I see no point in tracking rapists, murder is worse is worse than rape, are they punished for life?
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Why is it for paedos only?
murder is worse is worse than rape, are they punished for life? You ****g crack me up . Yes they're given a life sentence for christs sake |
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not all...I am glad I am keeping you entertained though
I don't think rape deserves punishment for life...raping an adult women, it is a crime like all crimes I am not approving of rape, I am saying we should this in proportion....I also believe in redemption although I accept that is personal choice |
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All murderers receive a life sentence in the UK.
So raping a woman is less serious than possessing kiddy porn? |
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An offence against a child is worse than an offence against an adult women
Because we look on children as innocents that need protecting With Adults it is slightly different, because they have more capability of defending themselves, they are fully mature |
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Since women now claim equality with men
then it cannot now be women and children first, it must only be children first they must always deserve the protection of adults good to see I am keeping the mover entertained as well, I do the best I can |
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ebulGery An offence against a child is worse than an offence against an adult women Judges work to a list that gives them a minimum/maximum time tariff per offence. Recently they either proposed or introduced a minimum of 3 years for carrying a knife for instance. They obviously have to decide on the severity of the crime within these parameters. I'm taking it from your comments Ebul that you know that for a fact. If so could you supply a link to the list of tariffs. |
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I was speaking using my own moral values....the this is not always the same as the law
sadly the law does not always reflect justice at times, at is an attempt at it I do not believe Ched committed rape A woman gets herself drunk, gets herself picked up for sex, voluntarily has sex with two men, does not say rape to me although it is if she is incapable of making a decision for herself the law considers that rape but I do not think they even proved that in this case.....I see this is an injustice I must speak others differ |
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voluntarily has sex with two men, does not say rape to me
Of course it doesn't but that's not what happened. |
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but it is sorry
her argument is she did have the capacity to make a decision, there fore it must be rape The porter heard sounds of voluntary sex, not her screaming get off me did he |
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please post where the porter said that in his statement. tia
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You've just made up that voluntary sex part. Classic Ebul with your 19th century definition of rape. Nobody heard her squeal and she didn't take a beating so it can't have been rape. She must have wanted it.
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In the meantime, no doubt in answer to the message that he had received from McDonald, the applicant arrived at the same hotel with two other male friends. He persuaded the night porter to give him a key card to the room occupied by McDonald and the complainant. He said that he had booked the room for a friend who no longer needed it. The applicant entered the room. Sexual intercourse between McDonald and the complainant ceased. The applicant performed oral sex on the complainant and then had vaginal sex with her. While it was taking place the porter went to check what was happening. He waited outside the room for a while and concluded from the noises that he could hear within the room that a couple were having sexual intercourse. No other concerns were raised in his mind.
https://www.crimeline.info/case/r-v-ched-evans-chedwyn-evans |
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Are you now saying she took a beating and was terrified into submission shrewd
evidence please? |
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where does it say "the porter heard sounds of voluntary sex"?
nowhere, you made that up |
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ok he concluded..does that make you happy
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