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he thought we played well.

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By:
tommo0001
When: 24 Jun 14 19:17
tbf to woy,he can`t come out on national tv and tell the truth can he,you wouldn't jepardise 3 million quid a year by saying to the country  "well we are s**t,rooney is a fat arse,gerrard is a c**t,i only took lampard cos I like him and cahill and jagielka are the best of a bad bunch"
By:
nc
When: 24 Jun 14 19:18
roy wears blinkers to avoid the horror show ¬
By:
1st time poster
When: 24 Jun 14 19:19
a poor deluded soul lost in the wilderness,even frank comes on 5 mins later and says it was pretty average
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 24 Jun 14 19:19
Based on his own expectations, we did play well. He's completely inept.
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Jun 14 19:21
the poor performances were giving italy too much rope as has been proved they aint all that either and the general abysmal slow tempo of the first 2 games.

that was better today but completely pointless against a team that were already through

england should have won today, would that have changed anything ?
By:
sageform
When: 24 Jun 14 19:27
Only watched bits and pieces with the cricket and a race or two, but all Costa Rica needed to do was avoid red cards and injuries-and we still couldn't beat them. The top 6 South and Central American teams are a division above the Europeans apart maybe from Holland. Brazil, Mexico, Costa Rica, Argentina, Colombia and Chile-the finalists and winner are in there surely.
By:
Outpost
When: 24 Jun 14 19:28
"england should have won today, would that have changed anything ?

roy could have pretended they were just unlucky against italy and uruguay and everybody would have bought into it.
By:
limited ability
When: 24 Jun 14 19:30
Not me

The guy is hopeless
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Jun 14 19:31
thats true sage

but the moaning should have been about the other 2 games which made this one irrelevant. say england took one of the chances (and they really should have!) and won the game, it still means nothing and everyone says CR are through anyway,

england winning this game meant nothing, the performance though better in terms of creating chances and pressing off the ball meant nothing too as CR already through couldn't be measured in same way as opening 2 games.
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Jun 14 19:31
outpost i dont think we were unlucky in them first 2 games
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Jun 14 19:32
i've said what i think of roy h

i just think the reaction after that game is more than the other 2 and i really don't get that.
By:
Geesyerdosh
When: 24 Jun 14 19:33
Robbie Savage is saying they were total shiite - and he's an arse Laugh
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Jun 14 19:34
and all the other pundits think we should have won the game

but that means jack too
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Jun 14 19:35
i'm just gutted that england were not more positive against italy in the opening game

sitting too deep and not enough of a press on the ball and too slow a tempo

said italy were not all that at the moment and that has been upheld

we made them look better and we let a 35 year old run the fecking game AGAIN
By:
hitmanhearn
When: 24 Jun 14 20:37
I didn't watch it. I will never watch a England game with this man as manager..is he a good tactician? No, is he a good motivator of men ? No , Is he charismatic ?. Does he have a good record ? Is there a **** plan ??? What are this fools credentials ??
By:
sideshowbob
When: 24 Jun 14 20:38
overpaid, oversexed and over here by tomorrow morning.
By:
MiltonF
When: 24 Jun 14 20:39

Jun 24, 2014 -- 8:37PM, hitmanhearn wrote:


I didn't watch it. I will never watch a England game with this man as manager..is he a good tactician? No, is he a good motivator of men ? No , Is he charismatic ?. Does he have a good record ? Is there a **** plan ??? What are this fools credentials ??


He doesn't have the players to be fair.. England are not good enough

By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 24 Jun 14 20:39
Roll on another two years of his sh1te.
By:
sideshowbob
When: 24 Jun 14 20:39
i didnt watch it either btw. why on earth it was on main itv ahead of the big match is beyond me.
id be interested to see the viewing figures. no doubt most people watched england cos theyre too lazy to find where the other game was on.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 24 Jun 14 20:40
Tired of hearing that myself Milton. I don't think the players are as bad as he is making them look.
By:
aberdonia
When: 24 Jun 14 20:42
tbf to Woy, England normally set up like Iran at a tournament.  If they did this time they may have sneaked through.

Woy bowed to the English media and played an open game, maybe to prove to their media that their players are not good enough to outplay sides.

feel a bit sorry for the man, as he obviously set out his team for the media and fans against his better judgement.
By:
MiltonF
When: 24 Jun 14 20:44
I think he is a genuine guy who has just been bowled over by the hype.. like succumbing to a nubile 25 year old with nice tits after a few beers
By:
redknapps_stepover
When: 24 Jun 14 20:45
So he threw away a tournament to prove to the media that England should play defensively in 2016?

If he's afraid of the media, he shouldn't be manager - he's paid to make big decisions. If that means going against the media's views, so be it.
By:
charwell.
When: 24 Jun 14 20:46
Woy is a complete and utter waste of time as a boss.

As soon as he was delighted LFC got 1 point against a relegated Birmingham I knew he was a wrong un'.......
By:
MiltonF
When: 24 Jun 14 20:47
He was a safe pair of hands for the old farts at the FA..
By:
erifles1
When: 24 Jun 14 20:53
I am absolutely SEEEEEEEETHING this guy is going to carry on.  Absolutely no self awareness about himself whatsoever.

"Oh, well, you know, I think I will just carry on with no culpability about the way we played, drawing a MASSIVE WAGE"


SECOND highest paid manager at the tournament.

First time England have failed to qualify out of a World Cup group.  EVER.

BOTTOM of the group.  FIRST time ever.

ONLY one point, Failed to score against COSTA RICA (Fair play to them though)


Del Bosque offered his resignation after the second game.  He's a bloody WORLD CUP WINNER!!!!  Man of Honour IMO.

Prandelli has just resigned.  Got to EURO FINALS last time.  Only just signed a 2 year deal before the World Cup.  Man of Honour IMO.
 

But no, Hodgson is just going to carry on.

Thoughts?
By:
charwell.
When: 24 Jun 14 20:55
Lovely pension for a doddering old fart. Will keep him in socks and sandals way past his grave.
By:
Java
When: 24 Jun 14 20:58
Complete and utter waste of space.  All he cares about is getting his £7 million for the next 2 years from his absurd employers to get England out of a qualifying group that they simply can't fail to do so, given Platini's expansion.  He will then fail again at the finals, and come out with how unlucky we are.

What a disgrace the man is.
By:
jed.davison
When: 24 Jun 14 20:58
He was entitled to be delighted, that was one one of his better results at the time.

No point talking about it for me. To see Lampard and Gerrard reunited in midfield for the last period, knowing Hodgson was gonna be in charge for another couple of years makes you wanna cry. If Hodgson was King, he wouldn't ever be able to step foot in England again after such an ignominious campaign. He'd be dropped off, exiled, at the Azores on the way home.
By:
Java
When: 24 Jun 14 20:59
And make no mistake, I imagine Hodgson will seek to build his team around Gerrard again.  Makes me want to cry.
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Jun 14 21:00
i dont think he set up the way the media wanted

he played rooney on the left with baines and they were exposed time after time against italy, a shame we didn't pay the full price for that, a decent italian time would have had 2 or 3 goals witht hat set up in the first half.

pirlo was ruling the show AGAIN whilst our energetic pressing midfielder was sat deep doing jack, something he only did against us, and people were telling me its cos he's so hard to stop, well he isn't if the team presses as a unit properly and thats been shown quite clearly.

the thing i cannot accept is the poor pressing as a team and players not playing as a team in possession enough (ie pass and move), ultimately the manager has to be responsible if his players are not on the pitch set up to do even the basics.


you can rant on and on about the ability of the players

costa rica topped our group and plenty of other teams not full of world class players have shown more because on the pitch they show great effort and a unity on and off the ball, they do the basics right and give 100% effort playing as a TEAM.

we looked too lethargic in the games that mattered and some of the tactics
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Jun 14 21:02
this obsession with gerrard is absolutely ridiculous, it's time to move forward, he does not have the impact in international games and does not have the energy needed.
By:
Java
When: 24 Jun 14 21:02
The first 15 minutes of the 2nd half against Uruguay showed up Hodgson.  Not tactically aware, and couldn't motivate the players to give a big push in a game they needed to win.
By:
Geesyerdosh
When: 24 Jun 14 21:06
IT COMES TO SOMETHING WHEN I ACTUALLY FEEL SORRY FOR ENGLISH FANS BUT YOU LOOK AT HODGSON ON THE TOUCHLINE, HE LOOKS ABSOLUTELY PETRIFIED, A COMPLETE PANIC MERCHANT, DON'T GET ME WRONG THE PLAYERS ARE PIISH BAR A COUPLE BUT HE CAN HARDLY BE THE INSPIRATION THE PLAYERS WOULD HOPE FOR.
By:
aberdonia
When: 24 Jun 14 21:06
Woy won the uefa cup with Inter.

how many english managers have won a european trophy in the last 20 years?
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Jun 14 21:07
Geesyerdosh     24 Jun 14 21:06 
IT COMES TO SOMETHING WHEN I ACTUALLY FEEL SORRY FOR ENGLISH FANS BUT YOU LOOK AT HODGSON ON THE TOUCHLINE, HE LOOKS ABSOLUTELY PETRIFIED, A COMPLETE PANIC MERCHANT, DON'T GET ME WRONG THE PLAYERS ARE PIISH BAR A COUPLE BUT HE CAN HARDLY BE THE INSPIRATION THE PLAYERS WOULD HOPE FOR.

he looked like that at liverpool for 5 months too
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Jun 14 21:08
fcuking tony pulis would get more out of these players Shocked
By:
berto77
When: 24 Jun 14 21:08
Not particularly wishing to join in the trashing of Hodgson (not a fan but our problems run deeper than which two he picks in central midfield).

However, I found his post match interview infuriating.  The only thing worse than watching a tepid performance such as that, is for it to be followed by a patronising assessment from the manager claiming it was a good performance when we all watched it and know it wasn't.  He's not the first to do it but I wish he'd just admit it wasn't good enough.
By:
Java
When: 24 Jun 14 21:09
"how many english managers have won a european trophy in the last 20 years?"

How many English managers have had the chance to manage a team like Inter in the last 20 years?
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