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Was Roy watching the same game ???

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By:
aberdonia
When: 24 Jun 14 21:09
Cant see the English fa giving a welsh man the job. Grin
By:
Java
When: 24 Jun 14 21:10
Of course he's going to say that in the interview Berto - he's looking after the pay packet for the next 2 years.  It can't go wrong - you could take a random forumite and it would be almost impossible for them not to get England out of the qualifying group.  And after that they could hardly do worse than the woeful Hodgson.
By:
loserschaselosers
When: 24 Jun 14 21:12
Roy has introduced the phrase "those who understand football" into his interviews. Not a pleasing development.
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Jun 14 21:12
the performance judged on effort, passing of the ball and chances created was better than the other 2 games

but its impossible to state this with any confidence as the opposition didn't need anything

this game could easily have finished 1 or 2-0 but the negative pts about the manager in the games that mattered would still have been the same.

a win in this game would have meant jack

i'm surprised that this performance is getting a bigger reaction than the other 2 games

i actually thought the talk of us being unlucky in them games wasn't completely right, the performances were not good on a number of things.
By:
berto77
When: 24 Jun 14 21:13
He doesn't have to talk himself out of a job java, but his praise for the performance was ridiculous.  They're the kind if comments that should leave his boss wondering whether he's lost the plot rather than someone taking time to rebuild with modest resources.
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Jun 14 21:13
the pressing off the ball was like chalk and cheese if you go back and watch the italy game in particular
By:
aberdonia
When: 24 Jun 14 21:14
your only as good as your players.

englands players are not good enough and have never been good enough.

they are shown up when they are taken away from a club environment where they are surrounded by technically gifted players.

Englands only chance at a tournament is to play like Greece and get lucky.

harsh facts but true imo, got to feel sorry for the young lad at Everton who will be the next great player who does not quite become that great player.
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Jun 14 21:15
costa rica HAVE NOT got world class players

they are hard working and have played as a team

usa are not technically better players, they work hard and play as a team

plenty of teams here are not full of world class players it does not mean you accept you are going to bomb without seeing the required effort in the important games!
By:
portmanpark
When: 24 Jun 14 21:15
erifles1......excellent post
By:
Java
When: 24 Jun 14 21:18
"Roy has introduced the phrase "those who understand football" into his interviews. Not a pleasing development. "

Indeed.  Quite sickening.
By:
Java
When: 24 Jun 14 21:19
"your only as good as your players.

englands players are not good enough and have never been good enough."

True enough.  But Costa Rica got 7 points, and few would argue that they have superior players to England or Italy.  The Italian manager has quit.  Hodgson will keep drawing his monstrous pay.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 24 Jun 14 21:25
I can't believe sensible people think this its all down to the players. As Java rightly says, other countries doing much better than us have significantly worse players. You could make a decent argument for us being the worst team at the World Cup. There is no way we have the worst individuals.

Because previous Managers have also done badly as our national Manager, it's become the perceived wisdom that it must be the players.

Imagine someone like Brendan Rodgers getting hold of this team. I'm not saying it's ALL the Managers fault, as the whole structure of English football is flawed, but I think Hodgson should take the lions share of the blame for this World Cup.
By:
Java
When: 24 Jun 14 21:27
It's his attitude that riles me.  He doesn't take one iota of blame.
By:
hitmanhearn
When: 24 Jun 14 21:29
Does anyone even know what his plan is ? what system is he using? It's just a ****g mish mash.No cohesion,no fluidity. It's totally embarrassing .Oh sorry I forgot he treated the players like adults and there was a good team spirit Cry give me strength ffs.
By:
aberdonia
When: 24 Jun 14 21:31
If the Iranian league had all the money in the world and could attract some of the best players in the world then their players would look decent week in week out. English players are greatly overestimated.  Your lucky if there are 2 or 3 of them in your top teams.

In all the time i have seen england play, i can count on one hand the players who were comfortable on the ball, Hoddle being the best, but if memory serves he was lambasted as being a luxury player by your media.

Gazza was almost up with Maradona ability wise, maybe if he had snorted charlie instead of getting pissed he could have achieved greatness. Grin
By:
Java
When: 24 Jun 14 21:41
Are you suggesting that England's average player is no better than Iran's average player?
By:
johnnythebull
When: 24 Jun 14 21:44
odds on poor gazza was doing both at the same time
By:
aberdonia
When: 24 Jun 14 21:45
Java,

based on Iran's performance against the world cup winners Mischief when they could have won the game
the answer would have to be Yes.
By:
JC1326
When: 24 Jun 14 21:46
I think it's ridiculous to say we don't have the players. We've beaten Spain and Brazil and drew in Brazil in recent times, put nine past Croatia in qualifiers. the issue is with the guy telling the players what to do, Hodgson.

said it a hundred times, put Mourinho or someone of that quality in charge and we would go close to winning a tournament. FA should ignore what the fans/media want, and just appoint someone short-term. if we paid Mourinho £2m to manage us for a month in Euro 2016 and we did well, nobody would care about his wage
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Jun 14 21:46
well organised everyone behind the ball, playing on the counter imo
By:
stridingedge
When: 24 Jun 14 21:47
*aberdonia

but player for player iran vs argentina individually would of course be a complete mis match, sort of backs up what TEAM is as opposed to individuals.
By:
Java
When: 24 Jun 14 21:49
"based on Iran's performance against the world cup winners when they could have won the game
the answer would have to be Yes. "

Unfortunately such a viewpoint would, in the minds of many, invalidate your views.
By:
jermaine defonebox
When: 24 Jun 14 22:02
Woy is without doubt the worst England manager in history. He's also a vile stuck up pompous old snob. All this he's a decent man is bllx  he wouldn't p iss on the ordinary man if he was on fire.
The best we can hope for is the senile old **** Alzheimer's gets worse and he's farmed off to a care home so we are rid of his irritating  post match blx
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