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I cant believe that no one knows the original joke??? its racist, he said a different version.. apparently, cant see him surviving this tbh if anyone jumps on the original joke bandwagon
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Charwell , Fat Frank ? I dont believe it. Its not as if he has an uncle who would be interested in the England job should Hodgson be sacked. He is hardly a bitter relative that only a few weeks ago slated Roy and the selection system just before Hodgson and Englands biggest match of the season.
And its not like the paper that broke the story happens to be the same one that employs said uncle to write a column for them. Or that its the paper that printed the article claiming Stuart Pearce was a racist for saying something 20 odd years ago to scupper any chance Pearce had of getting the job. You would have to be mad to suggest that they have been putting up the Uncle as "the peoples choice" for the last two years. Besides , why would Frank do it ? He was only hauled off in the first game and benched for the second one and clearly will be missing out come next summer. Im sure he would have taken that with dignity and not be on the phone to the family first chance he got... You are clearly mad Charwell. |
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good job di canio didn't say it. ww3 would have broken out.
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what's worse:
(a) considering an anecdote about nasa, but then looking up, seeing a black player and deciding not to tell it in case it causes offence, or (b) considering an anecdote about nasa, looking up and seeing a young England player and deciding it will give him a lift and telling it Arguably (b) is more naïve, but not racist imo... |
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It doesn't matter if Townsend wasn't offended by it, the person who reported it obviously was, so it is an issue.
The truth will come out then the shiit will it the fan. Unless the player who got offended was white, then Woy may get away with it. Who wouldn't raise an eyebrow if they were told to feed the monkey (the monkey being a black player) if they were in a dressing room. |
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It doesn't matter if Townsend wasn't offended by it, the person who reported it obviously was, so it is an issue.
and thats the point thats why you dont go there and use "monkey" in any way at all when there are black people present. why not just say give the ball to townsend because the rest of you useless ****s cant do it better. may upset a few egos but its certainly not racist |
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It doesn't matter if Townsend wasn't offended by it, the person who reported it obviously was, so it is an issue.
You have no idea who reported it or why. It could have been the cleaner looking to make a few quid who over heard it. |
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not acceptable in this day and age to be calling Frank fat,
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can't be bothered reading all this
Who was it? |
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wallis 18 Oct 13 20:54
You have no idea who reported it or why. It could have been the cleaner looking to make a few quid who over heard it. The reporter who broke the story confirmed it was a player within the squad at Wembley who rang him |
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The one comment the vast majority of commentators all say when referring to a big black player is ' He is a Beast! ' now i'm pretty sure the Beast in question is the beast we are all thinking about at the time so why are they allowed to get away with that particular comment every time in fact no one ever pulls them up about it.
They are not saying ' He is a Beast ' because he is playing like a Elephant or Jaguar or Leopard or Giant Sloth but no body bats an eyebrow. Surely it's time for comments like that to be questioned? |
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The player in question hasn't been specifically named on any of the previous pages but ther was a subtle reference to him earlier.
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I wonder if other countries press tries to destroy their national team time and time again like ours do.
Just can't believe how quickly this was done, even by their standards it was fast. |
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Like I said earlier someone said Micah Richards was a beast it wasn't in a bad way. Just as I'm sure woy never meant it
But if I was coloured I wouldn't like being called either Woy realised what he'd said and apparently said no offence which sort of makes it worse. I presume then he panicked and told the stupid joke He was apparently really foul mouthed as well that don't help |
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Agree totally out the rat, but to come on here wildly accusing people Jermaine Defonebox is bang out of order, i think ur a prick !
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everyone knows jermaines a 1st class fcukwit so wouldnt worry about that...
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lol @ jermaine using the word "coloured",well i would if it was intentional but he really is that ignorant so...
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can't be bothered reading all this
Who was it? my guess is glen johnson......cna imagine he had a phone chat with one of his team mates and decided to get his own back on woy for comments about him when he was somehow made boss at ours (wubber stamped by gerarrd ) |
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Nintendo springs to mind.
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Seemed like we are going to all know who it was tomorrow
Took Freddie Starr longer than normal to be sniffing around my s hit tube with usual nasty little comments We are all allowed to say who we think it is a its a forum .As you have reported me numerous times and I'm still here Maybe you should give up calling me names or I could lower myself to your level and report you I have dozens of your posts calling me very offensive things. Starr' seems to be very unhappy since the benefit clampdown. |
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Using the word "Coloured" is totally wrong!!
Bloody surprised people still use this term as its been considered NON-PC for at least 15 years!! |
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F*ck P-C, lets get back to Britain being a place renowned for freedom of speech, where people don't need to think about what they say for fear of being accused of being a racist. There is not a chance in hell that Roy was using the term Monkey in a racist manner. Shouldn't be an issue. Other Countries are laughing their heads off at Britain, having gone from a great nation to a shower of sh!t, with all of us accusing each other of racism.
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does nobody get upset that a player is so stupid that he doesn't understand the anecdote?
I am seething now that a player that dumb can get selected to play for his Country! Forget the brazen treachery. No wonder we can't win anything without the help of a Russian linesman! |
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oh man I hope I didn't offend anyone by using the term dumb when I meant stupid!
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Only the thick, mute people........
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The player in question hasn't been specifically named on any of the previous pages but ther was a subtle reference to him earlier.
I am a clever sod....... |
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The journalist who first published the news claimed his information had come directly from a player who was in the dressing room and who disputed Hodgson’s account. Admitting it was not impossible his source had simply misheard the manager, Gordon Smart told talkSport: “I told my man and told them what the FA had said and what Roy was saying and he was disgusted. He was horrified by it and just said, ‘I can’t believe that, that’s not how I heard it, I’m still offended’.”
Speaking before the FA investigation, Smart added: “He still feels exactly the same today and actually feels like it’s a bit of a cover-up.” |
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the player is working class and therefore unlikely to be capable of logical thought.
any interpretation he put on what was said is best ignored. |
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"Working class not capable of logical thought"
!This is yet another storm in a teacup, people being offended on behalf of others. Most of the time the one who's supposed to be offended couldn't care less. Sad times ![]() |
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Jason Roberts is earning a living from the BBC on the back of accusing people of racism ,this is a farce Greg ****'s commission is made up of people who have everybodys interest at heart ,if you get a Black person on the committee you know whose interests they will look after
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That is pure racism there A H Hunter
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So what have we learned so far.
Roy Hodgson is not a racist. Andros Townsend was flattered by the joke but not offended. The FA are holding an enquiry to find the cause of the leak. Whoever it was deserves to be told, in no uncetain terms, what an odiuos liitle cretin he/she is. |
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scottish reporter banished home to glasgow from london trying to make a big deal out of it to get back to london ?
it aint racist, so they can have as many enquiries as they wish, the result will be the same there is still plenty of racism to be tackled but people making themselves look stupid over this will lose credibility for their ongoing fight the sooner they see that the sooner they can get themselves onto dikes committees !!! |
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Dykes committee should be made up people in the game that have on won things, with a proven record of success in the game,nothing else.
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jermaine defonebox 19 Oct 13 09:06 Joined: 16 Aug 09 | Topic/replies: 5,105 | Blogger: jermaine defonebox's blog
Seemed like we are going to all know who it was tomorrow Took Freddie Starr longer than normal to be sniffing around my s hit tube with usual nasty little comments We are all allowed to say who we think it is a its a forum .As you have reported me numerous times and I'm still here Maybe you should give up calling me names or I could lower myself to your level and report you I have dozens of your posts calling me very offensive things. Starr' seems to be very unhappy since the benefit clampdown. i've never reported you or anyone else for that matter,i leave that to the forum weirdos...so crack on numnuts,give your purile existence some meaning for a moment |
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The England player who leaked the Roy Hodgson space monkey joke is angry at Andros Townsend for backing his manager, says the journalist who broke the story.
Gordon Smart, editor of the Scottish Sun, has confirmed that his source is indeed an England player rather than one of their associates. He has also claimed that the player was one of several who were offended by Hodgson's joke. During his half-time team talk for England's World Cup qualifier against Poland last Tuesday, Hodgson encouraged his side to pass the ball as often as possible to Townsend by using a NASA joke including the line "feed the monkey". Smart revealed the story on Wednesday night, with Townsend taking to Twitter the next day to insist he had not been offended. Wayne Rooney also defended Hodgson by saying the situation was "ridiculous". "He [the source] was angry about Andros Townsend tweeting the following day [to say he was not offended] because he assures me Andros was upset by it," Smart said on BBC Radio 5 Live's Sportsweek programme. "The following morning [after the Poland game] I got a call from an England player who wasn't very happy at all about what had gone on in the dressing room. "I said to the player, 'Do you think this is a good idea to go public? Is there not another way for you to go through with this? Should you not go to the FA about this? Have you spoken to Roy?' "He said no, he wanted to go public and that he wasn't the only player who was upset. They had agreed they wanted to go public with it. "I called it in to the office and during the day more than one player did corroborate that Roy had made this remark, that it was taken the wrong way. Across the board everyone did agree it was taken the wrong way. "I don't for one second think Roy Hodgson is racist. I just think he chose his words really unwisely and misjudged the room. "As I understood it, it was Roy speaking to Chris Smalling and telling him not to muck about with it and to feed the monkey. There were a few extra words in there that I can't repeat at this time of day on the radio. "It was taken the wrong way and I know that one senior player and Gary Neville looked at each other and at that point said to Roy: 'I think you better explain what you have just said there'. That was when he explained the NASA anecdote." When quizzed about the identity of his source, Smart was adamant it was an England player, but refused to confirm whether they had featured in Tuesday's clash with Poland. He said: "One hundred per cent direct from the horse's mouth, an England player speaking to me direct. "I've got to be careful about jigsaw identification," he added. "If I go in to detail about whether they played or whether they didn't play that would lead to it narrowing it down who it was, so I can't say either way. It's only fair that I protect my source on that." |
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So Hodgson , without any preamble about NASA , just pointed at Townshend and said 'Feed The Monkey!'
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best guess, it's gonna be one of the man utd boys and this is spillover from the ferdinand thing a year or so back.
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Thought smart was gonna name n shame the grass. Gradually trying to distance himself
Like I said at start of Fred woy used the story to cover up calling andros a cheeky monkey. Harmless but not good Still don't know for sure but think we agree viva. Neville sticking his snout in the trough like billy big balls again I started off liking the guy on tv but he's getting smuggler by the day fergie has been using the press for decades and all the contacts are still there Now it's all starting up about his stinking book never heard so much hype about a book he didn't write anyway or if he did he's got the fastest wring in the west Still going small here |