social; engeniering by labour, mr brown and mr blair let them through the doors let them work and give them houseing plus the use of the national health service, in the hope that they would vote for them

Just Checking, oh dear. You need to delve much deeper than that my friend. Meanwhile the game known as politics continues to create diversions, and has us mere peasants completely baffled, and arguing amongst ourselves about who should get what and who should and shouldn't be allowed in our country.

Some of you make me laugh,you can't manage on JSA or income support?? work it out how much you get in real terms.

RENT £85.00 A WEEK approx
COUNCIL TAX £20.00 A WEEK approx
JSA £71.00 A WEEK
FREE PRESCRIPTIONS
FREE EYE GLASSES
FREE DENTAL CARE
£200 on average for a single person which equates to the minimum wage,for sitting on your fat lardy arris's.

A lot of the lower paid jobs in this country are done by immigrant workers yet around only 6% of them in the UK claim benefits.

Before I sold my company I would not employ British workers if I had a choice,I found them lazy and part of a "blame someone else culture"

There are many British in this country who have and do abuse the very system that is there to support them.

Been reading through this thread and 1 of the big problems i see with the immigrant workers is the fact they are allowed to send money back to their homeland. I have worked alongside many eastern europeans and when spoken to them they send more money back home than they keep thereself which is draining money out of our economy.

once they've paid their taxes, who the fcks business is it what they do with the rest?

efisio. 01 Apr 13 18:09 Joined: 15 Dec 03 | Topic/replies: 3,361 | Blogger: efisio.'s blog
You're right daffodill. Maybe we should all learn from the example of our Eastern European cousins, and live 10 in a room, at least our earnings would actually stay in Britain.

A great point

SJ the problem is, that it was a planned excerise to allow loads of eastern europeans in to drive down the minimum wage. They have ****ked the economy, and now because of the pathetic wages we have, it does look fairly attractive to live on benefits. However the fact is that most on benefits, and those on low pay do not have a reasonable standard of living.

So say you were just starting off in life you've obviously worked hard and fair play to you mate you've done well in life, but back to my point. You've just left school and you go to get a job and people like yourself have already got the view in your mind that this person in front of my isnt going to work as hard as a someone from abroad a poor poor show my friend poor indeed

efisio. 01 Apr 13 18:13 Joined: 15 Dec 03 | Topic/replies: 3,362 | Blogger: efisio.'s blog
SJ the problem is, that it was a planned excerise to allow loads of eastern europeans in to drive down the minimum wage. They have ****ked the economy, and now because of the pathetic wages we have, it does look fairly attractive to live on benefits. However the fact is that most on benefits, and those on low pay do not have a reasonable standard of living.

I know it was mate, I know better than most as I've done warehouse work for the last 13 years since I left school and never claimed or been out of work for more than two weeks. As I've said people in that line of work are on less now than they was in 2000, HGV drivers the same

Just Checking 01 Apr 13 18:13 Joined: 25 Jun 06 | Topic/replies: 11,541 | Blogger: Just Checking's blog
"Before I sold my company I would not employ British workers if I had a choice,I found them lazy and part of a "blame someone else culture""

Very neatly underlined by the policewoman sueing the guy because she tripped over a curb answering a call.

Absolutely re-***ing-diculous.

Nothing ridiculous about that statement only your reply,I have employed many workers both British and overseas.
I have had to put up with all the usual excuses from British workers such as "it aint my job it's his" "sorry I didn't come to work yesterday my kid was bad" "I couldn't phone in sick,no credit on my phone" you name it and I along with other companies have heard it which is why there are lots of them now employing overseas workers.

"Nothing ridiculous about that statement only your reply"
What? I'm not saying YOU are ridiculous, I was obviously agreeing with you by citing an example in the news of the blame someone else culture!

Do you have a foreign employee to do your reading comprehension for you?!

DAFFODIL1 01 Apr 13 18:21 Joined: 27 Jul 07 | Topic/replies: 1,695 | Blogger: DAFFODIL1's blog
Just Checking 01 Apr 13 18:13 Joined: 25 Jun 06 | Topic/replies: 11,541 | Blogger: Just Checking's blog
"Before I sold my company I would not employ British workers if I had a choice,I found them lazy and part of a "blame someone else culture""

Very neatly underlined by the policewoman sueing the guy because she tripped over a curb answering a call.

Absolutely re-***ing-diculous.

Nothing ridiculous about that statement only your reply,I have employed many workers both British and overseas.
I have had to put up with all the usual excuses from British workers such as "it aint my job it's his" "sorry I didn't come to work yesterday my kid was bad" "I couldn't phone in sick,no credit on my phone" you name it and I along with other companies have heard it which is why there are lots of them now employing overseas workers.

Of course Daff would of nothing to do with them working for less, working bank holidays and weekends on a flat rate either I suppose Next you'll be telling me they all have a good grasp of the english language

You're missing the point with your attitude now as an employer you wouldnt get the job my friend, why? Because you say Immigrants work harder than British workers.

As for your 4 to a room, that is no way for a family who work to live.

Just Checking 01 Apr 13 18:34 Joined: 25 Jun 06 | Topic/replies: 11,543 | Blogger: Just Checking's blog
But what if he's correct in that belief?
Is he not allowed to believe it if the evidence suggests otherwise as that's "wrongthink"?

Ok lets do this a different way, lets forget the Eastern Europeans replacing the builders/warehouse/manufactures/Lorry driving jobs. Lets go down the live of City and Office workers being replaced by the chinese and rather than getting 30-40K a year they now get 25-30K a year. Lets see how they get on with the bills.
But we know that wont happen cos its fu ck the working class who do the manual labour jobs.
And if he's correct in that "belief" then if he was born in this generation he would never of been given a chance to get a job himself to then go on and get a business. Sorry I just dont buy it at all

Of course daff seems strange that before the mass influx the country was doing really well, were all British workers lazy then as well? Or has this only come in the last 10 years

the problem is the benefits system has been abused by some people, which has given the tories the excuse to do what they've always wanted to do: whittle it away as part of their project of driving down wages for the working poor and not so poor.

people working crappy jobs think "how come that fecker's getting the same as me for sitting on his @rse?" but don't ask why am I getting paid feck all for doing this job and spending most of it on rent to a property millionaire.

In the 1960s the state was also paying less then 1/10th of the amount of the current welfare budget... Its amazing how the country continued to function if you believe all the sob stories being trotted out today about some minor adjustments.

On this very forum I've read people "boasting" about not making it into work as they got p(ssed the night before.

AND When he got home he eat cold gravel before his dad cut him into pieces with a bread knife :)