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Mr Eboue
I shouldn't laugh, but that's bloody hilarious!!! Thank you for cheering me up  |
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Hang on a minute.
Some wanting to take 7/4 over 13/8 is as bad as some filth claiming tens of thousands of pounds in benefits? Am i reading that correctly? |
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Make your mind up Rick it was the bankers 5 minutes ago...
Is it possible that any of these benefit claimants have any personal culpability? |
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Politicians must toast the creation of the internet every night of their careers...it's means people just whine on forums constantly and never actually do anything to change things.
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"The people you should be blaming are the useless ruling classes that failed to create an economy, an education system" ..
Do you reckon your average career benefit claimant stuck in and gave it 100% at school and unfortunately fell short, or didn't give a sh*t as Labour had told them the world owes them a living and nothing is ever their responsibility? |
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atallbloke 01 Apr 13 19:33 Joined: 27 Aug 05 | Topic/replies: 1,267 | Blogger: atallbloke's blog
Politicians must toast the creation of the internet every night of their careers...it's means people just whine on forums constantly and never actually do anything to change things. Well at last some sense. |
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Injera 01 Apr 13 19:25 Joined: 04 Jan 03 | Topic/replies: 4,818 | Blogger: Injera's blog
Judorick, before the crash you do realise Lloyds and RBS were private companies don't you?!! ----------- yeah, that's what we all thought. but then when they went belly up, it turned out they weren't and we were all on the hook. |
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banks were not allowed to fail hmmmmm why not
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Thread has gone very quiet all of a sudden,maybe everyone has gone to watch the soaps while shouting at their kids "Shut to feck up, there's something interesting on the TV"
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How much tax has the financial sector paid in the last 20 years? Any thoughts?
The answer is of course 100s of billions and Blair and Brown knew it (and spent it) But hey, let's keep bashing the bankers shall we? Cos that's easy (and cowardly). |
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DAFFODIL1 01 Apr 13 19:48 Joined: 27 Jul 07 | Topic/replies: 1,704 | Blogger: DAFFODIL1's blog
Thread has gone very quiet all of a sudden,maybe everyone has gone to watch the soaps while shouting at their kids "Shut to feck up, there's something interesting on the TV" Maybe the thread is full of lazy British people mate, all your overseas workers will be still putting in a shift now flat rate bank holiday |
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its really up to those **** s to create jobs which actually make it worthwhile to go out and work, of course people will stay, if they can, on benefots if theyre worse off when in work, same goes for housing, try building more instead of lying about people needing spare rooms, theyre robbing the poor, as they always have, to bolster a failing economy, people such as myself practially living off tax cred, not for kids either i hasten to add, being forced to pay up for one extra bedroom, while all the priveleged who really decide whats happening in this world ie bankers, masons, elite etc. look down their noses with a sneer fromt he windows of their mansions..tory ****
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Why would people stay on hand outs if they're worse off in work?
Not sure I get that. What happened to a sense of self worth and personal responsibility? |
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Injera
Date Joined: 04 Jan 03 Add contact | Send message 01 Apr 13 20:02 Joined: 04 Jan 03 | Topic/replies: 4,822 | Blogger: Injera's blog How much tax has the financial sector paid in the last 20 years? Any thoughts? The answer is of course 100s of billions and Blair and Brown knew it (and spent it) But hey, let's keep bashing the bankers shall we? Cos that's easy (and cowardly). ------------ yeah, except that tax was a percentage of the parasitic earnings they never deserved in the first place. by your logic if they'd paid themselves twice as much to feck up the economy, they'd have contributed even more, so we should be twice as grateful. wild guess: you "work" in the financial sector. |
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Er, no I don't.
Do you want business to be successful or not? And if you do, how successful are they allowed to be? Gordy loved the City cos it paid for his spending. Check out His Mansion House speech just prior to the crash. Labour admit the Financial Sector contributed £50bn in tax, directly and indirectly in 2011. That's not bad when the whole sector was supposedly on its knees... |
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I wonder how much more we'd all have to pay in tax if the contribution from the financial sector was removed tommorow?
I'd think the answer is "lots". |
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BTW I'm all for regulation of the banks. If retail lending continued to be regulated, we would have saved ourselves a lot of trouble...
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THe politicians slipped us all a neat trick blaming the bankers (an easy target noting resentment at the sector) when it was really the politicians failure to address the issues within banking and their own readiness to prostitute themselves for personal gain or electoral benefit playing a pyramid game of tax and spendthrift ways.
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End of the day, and this is hard to argue with given the cold hard figures, even when we were in the "good times" Labour didn't even pay down our debt, it was more fun buying votes with freebies..
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in what way were they "successful" exactly? they created a mirage boom juggling pretend money, crashed the economy and got to keep the massive amounts they paid themselves for doing so in real money, then came back for more from the public purse.
total absence of shame or basic decency. |
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Too true Treetop.
We had/have a lopsided economy, heavily dependent on the financial sector. It was madness. Politicians pumped endless air into the credit bubble and couldn't see that at some point it would go pop. |
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Yes one of them said something about it. He said he'd put an end to boom and bust didnt he. Must've been a Tory as apparently it's all their fault
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So the banks didn't make any money?
The certainly made plenty from me!! As for asking the Govt to bail them out, we had little choice due to their importance in our lopsided economy. Don't forget, thousands in the financial sector lost their jobs.... |
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think it was mr brown our prudent chancellor of ten years who said he would stop the cycle of boom and bust ??????
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Nah, he claimed he HAD stopped it ! Nuts.
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sj 01 Apr 13 20:11 Joined: 16 Nov 02 | Topic/replies: 13,975 | Blogger: sj's blog
DAFFODIL1 01 Apr 13 19:48 Joined: 27 Jul 07 | Topic/replies: 1,704 | Blogger: DAFFODIL1's blog Thread has gone very quiet all of a sudden,maybe everyone has gone to watch the soaps while shouting at their kids "Shut to feck up, there's something interesting on the TV" Maybe the thread is full of lazy British people mate, all your overseas workers will be still putting in a shift now flat rate bank holiday. Don't worry sj the brits will put that right tomorrow by phoning in sick after a night on the phiss.  |
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what wealth did they create? they juggled massively overinflated assets and invented incredibly convoluted derivatives to disguise the fact. all the time relying on what would have been a massively expensive insurance policy if they'd had to pay for it.
the result was a boom which has more than reversed itself; yet they haven't handed back a penny of the billions in performance related bonuses they paid themselves while it was happening. anyone in the city who was making 100K+ who lost their job, GOOD. |
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DAFFODIL1 01 Apr 13 21:23 Joined: 27 Jul 07 | Topic/replies: 1,705 | Blogger: DAFFODIL1's blog
sj 01 Apr 13 20:11 Joined: 16 Nov 02 | Topic/replies: 13,975 | Blogger: sj's blog DAFFODIL1 01 Apr 13 19:48 Joined: 27 Jul 07 | Topic/replies: 1,704 | Blogger: DAFFODIL1's blog Thread has gone very quiet all of a sudden,maybe everyone has gone to watch the soaps while shouting at their kids "Shut to feck up, there's something interesting on the TV" Maybe the thread is full of lazy British people mate, all your overseas workers will be still putting in a shift now flat rate bank holiday. Don't worry sj the brits will put that right tomorrow by phoning in sick after a night on the phiss. I'm sure they will. Have you paid Zutroy his shiny coin for his 12 hour shift yet? |
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no party has the balls to make the cuts that are needed to sort out this mess.
it will need to be forced on us from the outside by the IMF or EU. |
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point well put forum breeder, heard that a few times, the problem is the next genral election, massive cuts are needed ,but you would seriously pxss of the voters
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cuts aimed at the poor won't sort anything out; they just suck more demand out of the economy.
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sj 01 Apr 13 21:34 Joined: 16 Nov 02 | Topic/replies: 13,976 | Blogger: sj's blog
DAFFODIL1 01 Apr 13 21:23 Joined: 27 Jul 07 | Topic/replies: 1,705 | Blogger: DAFFODIL1's blog sj 01 Apr 13 20:11 Joined: 16 Nov 02 | Topic/replies: 13,975 | Blogger: sj's blog DAFFODIL1 01 Apr 13 19:48 Joined: 27 Jul 07 | Topic/replies: 1,704 | Blogger: DAFFODIL1's blog Thread has gone very quiet all of a sudden,maybe everyone has gone to watch the soaps while shouting at their kids "Shut to feck up, there's something interesting on the TV" Maybe the thread is full of lazy British people mate, all your overseas workers will be still putting in a shift now flat rate bank holiday. Don't worry sj the brits will put that right tomorrow by phoning in sick after a night on the phiss. I'm sure they will. Have you paid Zutroy his shiny coin for his 12 hour shift yet? Can't argue with that one sj |
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No I cant mate you're right if it wasnt for people like you those jobs would never get done. Because there wasnt any British people doing those jobs before the mass Eastern European invasion was there?
Nice one silly bollox |
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sj 01 Apr 13 21:57 Joined: 16 Nov 02 | Topic/replies: 13,977 | Blogger: sj's blog
No I cant mate you're right if it wasnt for people like you those jobs would never get done. Because there wasnt any British people doing those jobs before the mass Eastern European invasion was there? Nice one silly bollox So you forgot about the "invasion" before that then? Irish? West Indian? Asian? Now who's a silly bollox? |
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Not really mate I'd say a good 80-90% of the warehouses I worked in from 1999-2003 were white British easy
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Also, so it s not the benefit culture of today then? Its generations of lazy white Britain's in manual labour jobs? Brilliant
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sj 01 Apr 13 22:06 Joined: 16 Nov 02 | Topic/replies: 13,978 | Blogger: sj's blog
Not really mate I'd say a good 80-90% of the warehouses I worked in from 1999-2003 were white British easy. Need to go back a lot further than that sj when it all started,try the early 60s most menial jobs were done by the Irish or West Indian/Asian folk and when I say menial I mean Cleaning,labouring,pot washing ect. |
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And given the choice of having nothing or working in the 60's you're saying the white british chaps turned those jobs down then as well? Good work mate you keep telling yourself that.
Not going to agree so its pointless carrying on. I beilive the majority of British people work hard in whatever job sector they're in hence why the country has always done well. Because the majority have a very good work ethic. The people from the countries you go on about arent exactly front running nations now are they? Id these Eastern European folk work so hard why are their countries so far behind with this supposed great work ethic? That will be my last on the subject its just cheap point scoring, and I've got to be up at 5:30 tomorrow not all the British ring in sick who work a manual labour job, contary to what you think |
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sj 01 Apr 13 22:08 Joined: 16 Nov 02 | Topic/replies: 13,979 | Blogger: sj's blog
Also, so it s not the benefit culture of today then? Its generations of lazy white Britain's in manual labour jobs? Brilliant Of course it's the benefit culture, in the 80s 90s it was all about getting that sick note and getting disability benefit,there were no checks made,Doctors notes were the final say.Now folk have to prove they are genuinely sick (a lot are) and a lot have been using and abusing the system,why should someone who has a self inflicted drink or drug problem be better off on benefits ( giving them more money for drugs and drink is the answer?) than a person going to work.It's not just them,Doctors gave out sick notes like confetti for a host of minor ailments and a large section of Britain cotton on to the fact that it was easy money for sitting on your aRse. |
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