of course he should.  torres and chelsea got lucky

Another point. I feel worth making, we are taking about 80k a week football players, young men owning or having access to every luxury 99% of us could only dream of.they will have gone home in their 200k cars to their 1m mansion with thier stunning wags, waiting for them. 2 days later are they really bothered if someone has retaliated to their bullish abuse and called them a name?

Who knows ,ask Anton .

You would think that situation would make them not make the accusations, you would think jt would say, hang on lads lets not be hypocritical look what happened to me saying something in the heat of a moment

what is going to be done about all the abuse directed at referees week in week out??

It's funny, had Chelsea won this match, we would not have heard a single word. Sour grapes because United, in some cases with the official's help slapped them and put them in their place. Cockney's hate loosing as we all know and the proof is indeed in the pudding. Over-rated team, over rated manager and not in the same league as United...............god the truth hurts. One day the banker will withdraw from Chelsea and the end of will soon follow.

gave to say chelsea have played this right.

and full respect to them imo.

clatenburg would have no doubt been in the good "books" and in line for games at ot some time very soon.

what better way to get him struck off .....the main toic of the moment which has dragged football to it knees

one player gets done on another players word..........so surely this ref has to go the same way.

None of the Chelsea principles are native English speakers.

Luiz's hearing is further impaired by his ridiculous hair.

Suggest FA recommend English language courses for all and additional short back and sides for Luiz.

Case closed.

mikel didnt hear any abuse, he was told of it

not wise to react to hearsay !

Having carefully read through this thread it is clear posters are letting their feelings towards Chelsea dictate their thinking,as was the case with John Terry.
  Clattenburg had an absolute shocker of a match,he made far too many wrong decisions for a professional referee,and that sort of thing is always likely to cause problems.In yesteryear it would cause brawls on the terraces.
Whether Clattenburg is guilty ,or not,and I have no idea,he should be demoted and learn to referee properly.Bad decisions,like he made,will always lead to heated exchanges,regardless of which teams are competing.Our game is sadly lacking in that department,and there is no room for wrong decisions,that shouldn't rest on the shoulders of one man.
When a match is refereed fairly,then bad language drops away,as do the contesting of decisions.There have been a few good refs,but,unfortunately,too many bad ones.
  Collini had great rapport,and respect from the players,we need more like him.

indeed unbiased, the tribal divides are set out and stuck to

you simply cant get em all right, but guessing can only back fire in the end

clattenberg has had an amazing climb given his off field problems, and i
cant see that he is a better ref than a.n other

I thought he got the second Torres booking wrong.

The winning goal was offside but that was the lino's decision.

So one major bad decision.  I just don't think he had the shocker some have made out.

I'm sorry unbiased you are simply incorrect.

Rugby players have always respected refs, and called them Sir, long before technology came in.  Respect for the referees decisions, right or wrong, is a culture that runs through the sport in a way it never has in football.

Refs / umpires in any sport will always make genuine mistakes.  Yes video replays can be used to correct them, but that's not the same as laying into the refs we have for doing a difficult job pretty well most of the time.

I live in the real world thanks.  I know refs will make genuine mistakes and I'm not prepared to batter them having watched countless slow mo replays.

Yes Torres can feel hard done by, but it's not like they're the only team ever to get a rough call from a ref.  Reading got a few last night but I don't hear them crying about refereeing standards.

there are lists elsewhere of chelsea gripes and counter gripes by man utd

he repeated the torres error on a man utd player at the end, and it looked to
me as if he had lost his head

theres plenty of offside decisions wrong and i agree its nothing to do with the ref,
and i also think our technology is such that you cant use it for offside unless they stick a bank of super slow mo cameras around the pitch, but then we wouldnt see the action !!

shirley

clarkie you have to be 100% to send someone off for diving,agree players do go down to easy but basically you are calling them cheats if you book/send them off.

Again i will add torres went down easy,but there was contact,i am sure edurado got his card resinded(sp?) because there was slight contact against celtic

I'm just going to go ahead and assume that Chelsea believe he did not officiate the match in a fair manner, that for whatever reason he was against them. With that in mind, it seems like they have decided to show him that he is not the only one who can play at that game. I thought they might go after him, I even said so on here right after the game, it seems I was right. We all know the score right, if you throw enough mud then some of it will stick. I'm not sure the man's position will be tenable after all of this. When he showed that second red he may well have committed career suicide.

maybe they will promote him upstairs !

donny,we only arrived at the conclusion that there MAY have been contact after countless super slow motion replays.Even now im not convinced Evans foot actually made contact with Torres shin.

I honestly believe that if any of us reffed that game on Sunday,the first impression would have been DIVE.....even now it looks like a dive 3 days later!!

I have heard it was Ramirez who was supposed to have heard Clattenburg call Mikel a monkey & Mata  a Spanish tw@t, by the way Ramirez cannot speak English?