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New Liverpool Manager betting - another big market move on the way??
New Liverpool Manager betting - another big market move on the way??
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Roberto Martinez
£-335.26 completey agree about martinez i have been trading his price since last thursday. i am willing to take a big red if he gets the job as i will make it back trading liverpool's match odds next season with them appointing another manager who's out of his depth |
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His reputation has been their since his Swansea days, and the Wigan squad is hardly talented, he started playing with three at the back and the results followed, he is good with the press and young enough to improve as a coach, think that if AVB is in with a chance then Martinez must be a better option, Cappelo getting backed...
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who cares if hes "good with the press"?
i want a guy whos a good football manager not a diplomat |
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Freddie. It goes without saying his management abilities and football acumen are the most important, but after the PR disaster that was Kenny, I would like the new man to be good with the press and handle himself well.
Its something that is still a factor. |
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Media management is almost essential in the modern game, unless you win every game. If you don't every mistake is a calamity, every defeat a crisis.
Obviously it's not the main factor, but it is vital whether we like it or not. |
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freddiek
22 May 12 11:57 who cares if hes "good with the press"? i want a guy whos a good football manager not many boxes there for kenny to tick  |
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does anyone now why alan pardew hasnt been connected with the liverpool job? i think he is a decent manager with good player trading ability
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Pardew has had a few reasonable jobs in the past and not impressed. One season at newcastle when the scouts have unearthed a few gems is no reason to suddenly think pardew is a top class manager.
Big red on Martinez here, big green on AVB as he is the only available manager that seems to fit what Liverpool need for me. |
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capello incoming!!!
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American owners always like their employees to be media savvy. Capelloz English must surely have improved no?
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i thin avb is short, some bookies have it as 4.5 here it is only 4.1. have already green out on capello dont see him shortening further
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how will avbs set up suit us right now???
the midfield is either too wet behind the ears and the likes of gerrard cant put a proper shift in defensively only lucas has the right stuff in there. also carroll...no way would he fit in. |
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Think Capello might go down to single digits later today, but im a Guesser
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yeah pardew is a joke.
he just got lucky coz one of his scouts bought some excellent signings for newcastle. |
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Pardew got a good job at the toon, a well run club with a few quid to spend but the fact the team have performed well this year is down to him and the coaching staff, have to give him credit for that. But why would he want to leave a nice cushtie job a poison chalice.
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Pardew has absolutely no input on the players that are brought in.
If you had given any half decent Manager their current squad, I think they would have matched what he has done tbh. I'd have his current stock as the most over rated in the league myself. |
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That said, Newcastle are the model we need to follow most closely imo.
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only the scouting side of things.
manager wise we need to cover all angles dont think its wise to let an inexperienced type take charge....if fenway do they will be sacking them quite quickly. |
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If the Fenway mob are taking a look at Martinez then why not Lambert???
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Can't Catch Me 22 May 12 13:27
Pardew has absolutely no input on the players that are brought in. having seen the absolute mess he made of transfers during his time at Charlton, i go along 100% with this point of view. |
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dont think its wise to let an inexperienced type take charge....if fenway do they will be sacking them quite quickly.
G1. Its statements like that that I'm on about. You are contradicting yourself. You keep banging on about Simeone. How experienced is he? 3 or 4 seasons in South America with up and down results and one good season at Atletico. |
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martinez on the drift again. i have been on betfair for less than 3 year but this is one of the craziest markets i have seen. i have never traded the same market over and over again in a 5 day time period like this.
the fun will have to stop tommorow though as i'm going benidorm on a stag do but suppose theres still time to improve position |
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money for deschamps and van gaal. deschamps 25/1 on bet365 trading between 18-20 on here
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deschamps now 17 wtf?
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Van Gaal timmmmber
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It appears to be one of those markets where nobody knows anything. Traders dream IMO.
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yep sounds about right can't catch me. i think the latest drift on martinez has come from sky sports news revealing he hasn't even held talks with liverpool or told wigan he wants to. could hit 4.7 tonight perhaps
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http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/85/england/2012/05/22/3118908/martinez-prepares-for-second-liverpool-meeting-after-villas-boas-
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^ if u havent already seen this news, martinze going to have a second conversation
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fair enough not sure how much of that is true though differing reports around
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David Cameron for me. He has the experience of piloting a sinking ship. Plus, he'll take all the youth team's money and give it to Andy Carroll. Result = goals galore.
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ccm
simeone just lifted the europa league. a massive difference from rodgers or martinez. also if you have watched atletico in their league all season youd would also agree with me. there was a mssive turnaround in how atletico performed and approached their games. |
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so effectively we are in for a bottom of the league scrambler when really we should be after the real up and coming managers if we decide to take that approach.
absoilute madness |
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they are only bottom of the league scramblers because they are young managers, there aren't many young managers that start at the top straight away. If you look at the history of great managers they all usually started off at lower level teams, the question is can one of those young managers make the step up to a big team and make the next step, thats a judegment the owers have to take.
There are a few young managers like AVB who have won things and managed a big team but im sure you'll agree there are just as many risks with someone like him compared to someone like Martinez who hasn't managed a top team. |
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So lifting the Europa League means you aren't inexperienced?
As I have said you have no idea who we have or haven approached. Nobody does. But everyone is main huge assumptions. Let's just wai and see shall we... |
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yes of course a lot of great managers started at lower sides but im sure by the time they came to a "name" they had worked their way up properly.
taking a step up imo for rodgers or martinez would involve getting someone like villa in the chamions league without major luck in the market....ie.to show their managerial ability got them there. either that or they win the cup thats the bare minimum. id want to understand how they got their teams playing. id want to see a similar vein through each club. not just take their last instance like we did with woy....saying that the appoinment of KK longer term was a bizzare choice. |
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simeone was high regarded in his time in south america.
like i said ccm if you watched atletico pre simeone and after he joined...you would be thinking right now....."has he another danedream" |
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We are going round in circles G1. You don't want to accept they may have asked and he may have said not interested.
I can hear you already.... A few months from now when things aren't going well. I said they should have gone for Simeone  |
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its just that i see a MASSIVE difference between martinez and simeone.
why cant anyone else? |