So to sum up the op,

you had a strange feelings for your mate, you freaked him out so much that he left
Years later you still miss him

Is this correct?

also meant to say I did the "hide the screen" thing on teletext but could only do that at my Grandads house - we were poor when I was young and our telly didnt have teletext!!

Used to get the racing results on the radio around 7pm each night I think?

great thread realdeal,
reading your op about that guy with his clinical approch to betting reminded me of a bet i did years ago,paddy powers had a special in the weeks leading up to cheltenham for total winning distance for all the races combined,i think there was only 3 days of racing that time,anyway saw they were offering under over and between a certain amount of lenths,saw the over was unbelievably low so started doing my research,ground soft to heavy so more chance of bigger winning distances and the likes,the hardest part was getting the money down
anyway to make a long story short travelled to every paddy powers in my county putting a few hundred euro a time on the bet thinking they were going to realise they're mistake soon enough,
ended up having nearly about 2 grand on it to win maybe 16 hundred,biggest bet of my life but was certain it could'nt lose, 1st day got maybe 18 lths,2nd day got maybe 25 lths,so for the 3rd day only needed about 5 lths from like 7 races,you can guess what happened,came up short by about 1 lth after a freak no of 1/2 and 1/4 lth winners,i was gutted for weeks and did'nt tell anyone,i learned a harsh lesson about gambling that day,

Wow Arazi,could have done with speaking with you tomorrow m8,but i feel another Ramble coming on.Give me a minute m8 just got to say this before I forget.

Got you Iceking,thank you m8,no offence taken at all I promise.Total honesty is only good m8.I agree that my spelling,punctuation & grammer will always be suspect on here m8.I would explain this as probably best pub talk if you here me.I am normally multi-tasking with footy bets etc.As this isn't a job application form or whatever I kind of deem it's sort of banter.Being slightly old school I would deem a personal letter to yourself would require perhaps a little more attention to detail etc.I can tell you I have really neat hand writing,only use fountain pens,decent quality writing paper & never writing on both sides of the paper etc.I swear like a trooper in the company of my m8's,but never in front of the Children or if Ladies are presant.I am also reasonably well spoken.My lazy approach on forums are mainly because 1 am not to the keyboard borne.But 2 more importantly you can go to the trouble of writing correctly doing your spell check etc & get a reply in text speak thay 50% is harder to decipher than cockney ryming slang.3 general mental exhaustion etc. Saying all of that I totally get what you meant tough m8,because if your rambling or shooting straight it's about the content & some stuff has obviously balls to it,when alot of what you read is obvious bulls s h i t.I hope your write about what you said is thats how it's meant m8.Anyway Cushty thanks again.

Wow Wow Wow,this isn't yet a HOLY GRAIL the betting type yet.Maybe a cliche who knows I do not really care.One thing I know already within 24 hours of starting this is this feels a fairly sane calm & collected place to idle away the odd hour or 2.This I totally claim no credit for.Possibly by starting off a bucket is half full type thread & not a Bucket half empty one.Maybe that was it.
But it just seems chilled out,cool & it seems that no one is to bothered about the size of peoples Banks or knocking folk down etc.It's really strange on here sometimes about how everyone seems so bothered about not just how well they do themselves but then how badly everyone else is.
Bit like that sketch on the Fast show," I'M SO CONSIDERABLY RICHER THAN YOOOUUU" you will only get it if you have seen the show.
I think surely when you have had your day good or bad it doesn't hurt to feel happy for other to have had an earner to.

Anyway I have solved a small step in my improvement to betting all be it by chance.I am on a little challenge with myself quietly tucked away in the multiples,Todays bets were 8 lay 0-0's £236-05 on to win £326-18.The odds were only 1-4 these were as I said earlier posted well before kick off etc.Anyway I am only working Fri/Sat/Sun for the next 3 or 4 weeks.Brilliant loads of time to have a raging run at tuning my wicked ways down a smigeon.If it is entirely possible,who knows eh,I've got no idea,myself honestly.
All I can say is when I fall over I  am straight back up again.When you fall off your Horse you get straight back on again obviously as long as your not going to Hospital I digress.

The problem I am over coming now is that I get my bets on & instead of hovering over the sceen waiting for suspends,which just gets you racing to bet bet bet.Now early doors I know but I come over to the forum & Ramble.Today The 1st bet started at 11-30am last being the Real game.Virtually any time that I wasn't with my family,I was on here with new m8's,well you know what I mean dont you.

Here is how I see it in this game nowadays.Bookies have always been pretty ruthless greedy outfits doing nothing at all for punters or racing ever ever.Now I think that they have sunk to lower & lower depths.

They have as mentioned turned there once strictly regulated & sensibly licenced high st bookies into gloryfied Mini Casino's.All of this under the tender caring Tony Blair regime.It used to make me sad enough seeing Guys every week late Thursday night &  Friday night blowing some of there wages on there way home to the wife & children.Now it is more or less the same but on speed.They will come through the doors & before the first minutes up the first £20-00 has been fed into the machine if they are still going 30 minutes latter it nearly a result 9 times out of 10 they go home pottless.What the hell do they tell there wives & how do they feed there Children.If that isn't bordering on dealing drugs what is.It is a drug to an increasing amount of people.To children who do not get fed properly how much worse is it to him blowing his cash on whacy baccy.A couple of pence on there share price.Thousands of households in poverty because of them horrible machines.The bookies treat there staff like slaves on long hours minimum wage & how long do you think it will be before they are all unstaffed like check outs in Supermarkets blah blah blah.

I am kind of hoping that this is just like the honeymoon period on here slightly,so that I just spend a pleasant hour a day or something.Because I can see my very understanding Lady not standing this to long.   





Short Break.

Just wanted to say how much I have enjoyed reading this thread.

Reading your betting shop tales have brought memories flooding back, some really good, some truly horrible. Like yourself I wouldn't swap it for anything. I'm only 27, but have been betting in LBO's since I was 16 when there was no machines, fogs of smoke and plenty of characters about.

The life of a gambler (I'm sorry, but 99% of people on here are gamblers) can be likened to nothing else and I too believe that it is true that for anyone to go pro you would need to dedicate so much of your life to form study and catching breaking news that you would sacrifice any enjoyment that the 'job' should bring.

A handful of times a year I really get interested about a potential plot on the all weather or see that they have finally moved a greyhound that i've been watching to the trap it needs to get a clean break to the first bend...I would spend so many hours on the days leading up to the race studying the form of the other entries to gauge what sort of price my selection should be and if there any potential dangers...should I put a cover bet on.
More often than not when I put the groundwork in I end up making £1,000's from my work, but in the wake of it all I feel like shiit when I realise how little time that I've spent with my girlfriend, sitting on the sofa transfixed on my laptop screen pretending to listen to whatever it is that she's banging on about.

More often than not when I have a big win, i'd start acting like I am untouchable throwing £100 bets at something that I have looked at for 3 minutes. Before I know it half of my profit that I put hours of study into would have been blown with in an hour.

It's just not worth it to me. It can be for others it depends what you're after in life. But I have won and lost enough money/jobs/friends over the past 10 years because of my actions and stuff that has happened out of my hands to know that it's worth nothing if you don't have genuine people around you to share it with. The actions that you must take to be a pro can only push people away.

Anyway, I thought this thread was brilliant and just thought I'd add my 2 pence worth. I echo what a previous poster said in that you should consider writing a book as I was gripped to this last night. All the best Real Deal.

I would likew to echo the previous comments about this thread.

I will only add that all the nostalgic stories about Betting shops etc also remind me how good this this forum used to be in the early days .

Cheers Real Deal

moneytrump

..that is why I never make any long term profit

moneytrump's comment is exactly what this thread needed imo

I have punted big,well for me anyway up to 5k certainly not on a regular basis and some good some terrible now I just potter about doing wee systems to see how/IF they work it,s more of a hobby for me,my wee bit of an input concerned a guy I knocked about with in Glasgow circa 50yrs ago he was to me what anyone aspiring to gamble for real money should be,we were only young uns 17/18yolds he was betting upwards of £200 a bit of money then,he would go for weeks and wouldn,t put a penny on then pounce invariably they won if you asked him to split a bet with you for a couple of quid he would just laugh no way hw said they get nothing back from me,he had real discipline and always wished I had the same.good luck.

most gamblers dont want to make a profit. they just want to bet on the first thing that comes into their head. oh theyll win. job done.

its like asking why the average person playing in the snooker hall isnt stephen hendry. its cos they just pee about knocking balls around a table, not studying every aspect of their game in practice for 8 hours a day for 15 years!

for some reason people have in their head gambling is about luck, thats why they will never make a profit and shouldnt even be doing it in the first place.

awesome feed! I got through the first page, will have to read the other pages in some more spare time. but very interesting. guess I have to come to the realisation that if you want to make money you need to work hard for it. Like anything in life if you really want something you have to go out and get it, nothing comes easy. hard work = results like anything in life. Many people are lazy, everyone wants to be rich bit not everyone wants to work hard for it. A lot of people lack motivation, and many desperate people (good people) resort to gambling thinking they will make there fortunes here. It is sad how it can separate families and it is looked down upon. My view is that it is exactly the same as the share market. If you know nothing about the share market and start throwing money around your just as bad off as gambling. As long as someone has hope (and money) they will keep gambling. It is a bad addiction. Especially when you lose control and lose everything from family to property. I myself havn't been through that and I hope I never do. I am still young and my view is to make some extra cash to pay for some finer luxuries. I just hope it does not seriously take over. Being an accountant I am a bit tight with my money and don't like risk. Anyways im just rambling on now. felt like contributing my 2 cents worth. best of luck.

it was just my feeble attempt at humour RealDeal, no offence meant fella

your posts are long but you talk a fair amount of sense and you simply cannot distill all the various element s of successful gambling/punting/trading/sports betting into a few words.

I like what you say about being a mug punter deep down I think we all have a greedy little mug punter inside us it's a measure of controlling him

Highlander behave ! The odds only tell you what the layers want to lay.

Yike,you seem wise for your years m8.I hope that you realise that your math skills are a major advantage in your quest,if you use them with the logic you should have via accountancy etc.That must give you a slighter edge.Balls,calm & patience etc.Never be in a hurry etc.

Thanks Highlander,no offence taken.
I am really thick skinned etc,so my only worries on here are,that I do not want to upset or offend anyone on here.
I think that offensive post may have been removed for whatever reason.I know that you can block stuff.But I cannot or wont do that,I will just try not to stir up the hornets nest &see if that works.

Scooby Dooby Doo.

Cannot argue with that Zilzal.Very concisely put

Halfway through page 2 but better go to bed I'm not a morning person

Love the stories and the style. Also I was thinking I bet the dog was called Coral then you named it.

I have to agree with high lander, basically how can anyone
study, research, call it what you like, when it has already
been done for you ? I'm not saying that it is wrong, but that
I, pesonally couldn't do it. I stick to football, read
everything, everything, and work out where the market is going,
listen to pundits, take note or disregard whatever, think about
things all the time, even when doing other things, like cleaning
my car, having a pint etc. My partner sometimes asks me ''What
are you thinking about'', and I usually answer ''nothing in
particular'' when in reality I'm trying to work out some
prices on Saturday's footie. I don't disagree with those who
study, study, study, but's it's mostly not for me.