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NobbyClarke
10 Nov 09 10:20
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It looks like Liverpool's Top 4 spot is well and truly up for grabs. Are Tottenham, Villa or City capable of displacing England's most successful European club?

And without the Champion's League gravy train what will become of the once great Liverpool?

Will Rafa get the boot?

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By:
maverick
When: 10 Nov 09 10:22
liverpool will finish above all of those.
By:
REDUNDANT PUNTER
When: 10 Nov 09 10:23
and at least one other
By:
sanity
When: 10 Nov 09 10:25
mav/ redun pair of blinkered clowns.
By:
REDUNDANT PUNTER
When: 10 Nov 09 10:26
you may be correct, but the end of season will confirm either way imo
By:
Ukmalllia
When: 10 Nov 09 10:26
Liverpool will finish above all of those and Man U.

Chelsea and Arsenal are on another level this season admitedly.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 10 Nov 09 10:27
4th place still no problem
By:
sugarfoot
When: 10 Nov 09 10:28
Wouldn't call it traditional, plenty of failed seasons in PL
PL finishes
Liverpool 86434374325453342

if you want a tradition:
Chelsea 00006435664211223
since the money came [b211223[/b]

Arsenal 04053122212124434
since Wenger came 3122212124434

Man U since the PL started... 11211211131332111
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 10 Nov 09 10:29
Been top four 8 of the last 10 years... wouldnt you call that traditional?
By:
Shab
When: 10 Nov 09 10:31
THe problem that they have is that their 2 best players probably need surgery, and the World Cup is at the end of the season.

I can't see Gerrard or Torres waiting until after the WC to get their operations, as Torres has a serious chance of winning the WC and Gerrard probably thinks he has, so both will want to be 100% fit for it.
By:
RichRed
When: 10 Nov 09 10:34
Can't Catch Me 10 Nov 11:29


Been top four 8 of the last 10 years... wouldnt you call that traditional

Also one of the them years out of the top 4, Liverpool were number 1 in europe.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 10 Nov 09 10:35
Know what you are saying Shab, but they also have to have a good season to ensure they are actaully in the starting XI (SG particularly)
By:
REDUNDANT PUNTER
When: 10 Nov 09 10:36
That does not count because it was a fluke, and they did not win it milan lost it hey nobby
By:
NobbyClarke
When: 10 Nov 09 10:36
Shab if either Gerrard's or Torres' injuries were operable then they would have been under the knife already.

It looks like the pair just need a month or so off.
By:
CailiniDeas8
When: 10 Nov 09 10:37
Agreed Redpunt.

:-)
By:
NobbyClarke
When: 10 Nov 09 10:38
Spot on RP.

As far as I am concerned United have only ever won it once, Wembley 68.
By:
REDUNDANT PUNTER
When: 10 Nov 09 10:39
why is that ?
By:
NobbyClarke
When: 10 Nov 09 10:42
Because Manchester United are supposed to be about playing with style, brio, like champions not holding out for a penalty shoot out or a couple of stuffy goals at the death.
By:
REDUNDANT PUNTER
When: 10 Nov 09 10:45
Nobby if it was not for the two stuffy late goals and the penalty shootout you refer too united would be classed as european lightweights, instead of the middleweight status they now have
By:
sugarfoot
When: 10 Nov 09 10:46
if you look at the distribution of Liverpool's finishes, you would say that they are most commonly 3rd or 4th; to say they are top four implies a reasonable number of firsts and seconds

1st
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4th @@@@@
5th @@
6th @
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8th @

compare that, to say, ManU:
1st @@@@@@@@@@
2nd @@@
3rd @@@

or Wenger
1st @@@
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4th @@@@
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 10 Nov 09 10:48
:^0

Different layout showing the exact same stats!! 8 of the last 10 is traditional top 4
By:
REDUNDANT PUNTER
When: 10 Nov 09 10:50
I think traditionally Liverpool are accepted by the media, and most other teams managers if not fans as one of the top four, hence all the other teams are quoted as looking to break the top 4 monopoly imo
By:
hi carrumbah
When: 10 Nov 09 10:52
Liverpool are the Old Kent Road of Monopoly ;)
By:
R0ykeane
When: 10 Nov 09 10:53
sugarfoot 10 Nov 11:46
if you look at the distribution of Liverpool's finishes, you would say that they are most commonly 3rd or 4th; to say they are top four implies a reasonable number of firsts and seconds

1st :^0
2nd @@
3rd @@@@@
4th @@@@@
5th @@
6th @
7th @
8th @

compare that, to say, ManU:
1st @@@@@@@@@@
2nd @@@
3rd @@@

or Wenger
1st @@@
2nd @@@@@
3rd @@
4th @@@@
By:
Ukmalllia
When: 10 Nov 09 10:53
Hi Carrumbah, 2 spaces out.. MAYFAIR ! :^0
By:
NobbyClarke
When: 10 Nov 09 10:53
Are Barcelona European lightweights?

Better one Great win than a dozen bore draws followed by penalty shoot outs.
By:
REDUNDANT PUNTER
When: 10 Nov 09 10:56
no like yourselves barca are middleweights compared to the real heavyweights,
By:
Inspired 25
When: 10 Nov 09 10:57
ya, and fergie is the little old man in the prison.
By:
sanity
When: 10 Nov 09 10:58
Nobby typical liverscum cretin.
By:
REDUNDANT PUNTER
When: 10 Nov 09 10:59
sanity it seems you are a little confused
By:
NobbyClarke
When: 10 Nov 09 10:59
To imagine Liverpool are heavyweights is quite frankly silly.

Sure they have some rusty cups but what future do they have?
By:
Inspired 25
When: 10 Nov 09 11:00
probably a more prosprous one than united do imo
By:
Inspired 25
When: 10 Nov 09 11:01
prosperous*
By:
Ukmalllia
When: 10 Nov 09 11:01
5 EUROPEANS CUPS AND THATS WHAT WE CAL HIS-TORY !
By:
big-game-player
When: 10 Nov 09 11:01
barca and united are both truly bigger than liverpool. as little as i care for the chumps league.. (and yes i know fergie loves it as you all keep saying)

id love to get to 6 and see what the vermin have to say then... or even five..

because by that time we will be a few leagues clear as well..
By:
NobbyClarke
When: 10 Nov 09 11:03
Well there you go.

Owned by a pair of squabbling broke Yanks with £20,000,000 a year transfer budget - the future looks so bright.

How is the ground coming on?
By:
Inspired 25
When: 10 Nov 09 11:04
admittedly liverpool have been terrible in certain areas this season already, but we know it, as for united they are STILL under the illusion that a defence with vidic and ferdinand at the back is good enough to cause teams such as chelsea and arsenal a threat. united played well on sunday but still lost, wake up and smell the coffee.
By:
REDUNDANT PUNTER
When: 10 Nov 09 11:08
It matters not in this context european cups/cl won is how a club is viewed in terms of success, the future matters not as no one can tell, if unite won five or six, they would be viewd correctly as euro greats imo
By:
big-game-player
When: 10 Nov 09 11:11
some of us care more about being champions of our own country than some competition thats almost fixed for the so called top teams to monopolise..

thats what is wrong with the chumps league.. teams can finish no higher than fifth in their respective league and still laughably call themselves the best in europe.. maybe if they contended for the title and finished 1st or 2nd and won it yeah i can see that..
By:
big-game-player
When: 10 Nov 09 11:12
well a defence WITHOUT rio and vidic did more than enough on sunday other than a disputed goal imo...

ppl concentrate on uniteds alleged decline and defiiences but concentrate on your own a bit more :)
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