Liverpool's Traditional Top 4 Place

liverpool will finish above all of those.

and at least one other

mav/ redun pair of blinkered clowns.

you may be correct, but the end of season will confirm either way imo

Liverpool will finish above all of those and Man U.

Chelsea and Arsenal are on another level this season admitedly.

4th place still no problem

Wouldn't call it traditional, plenty of failed seasons in PL
PL finishes
Liverpool 86434374325453342

if you want a tradition:
Chelsea 00006435664211223
since the money came [b211223[/b]

Arsenal 04053122212124434
since Wenger came 3122212124434

Man U since the PL started... 11211211131332111

Been top four 8 of the last 10 years... wouldnt you call that traditional?

THe problem that they have is that their 2 best players probably need surgery, and the World Cup is at the end of the season.

I can't see Gerrard or Torres waiting until after the WC to get their operations, as Torres has a serious chance of winning the WC and Gerrard probably thinks he has, so both will want to be 100% fit for it.

Can't Catch Me 10 Nov 11:29


Been top four 8 of the last 10 years... wouldnt you call that traditional

Also one of the them years out of the top 4, Liverpool were number 1 in europe.

Know what you are saying Shab, but they also have to have a good season to ensure they are actaully in the starting XI (SG particularly)

That does not count because it was a fluke, and they did not win it milan lost it hey nobby

Shab if either Gerrard's or Torres' injuries were operable then they would have been under the knife already.

It looks like the pair just need a month or so off.

Agreed Redpunt.

:-)

Spot on RP.

As far as I am concerned United have only ever won it once, Wembley 68.

why is that ?

Because Manchester United are supposed to be about playing with style, brio, like champions not holding out for a penalty shoot out or a couple of stuffy goals at the death.

Nobby if it was not for the two stuffy late goals and the penalty shootout you refer too united would be classed as european lightweights, instead of the middleweight status they now have

if you look at the distribution of Liverpool's finishes, you would say that they are most commonly 3rd or 4th; to say they are top four implies a reasonable number of firsts and seconds

1st
2nd @@
3rd @@@@@
4th @@@@@
5th @@
6th @
7th @
8th @

compare that, to say, ManU:
1st @@@@@@@@@@
2nd @@@
3rd @@@

or Wenger
1st @@@
2nd @@@@@
3rd @@
4th @@@@

:^0

Different layout showing the exact same stats!! 8 of the last 10 is traditional top 4

I think traditionally Liverpool are accepted by the media, and most other teams managers if not fans as one of the top four, hence all the other teams are quoted as looking to break the top 4 monopoly imo

Liverpool are the Old Kent Road of Monopoly ;)

sugarfoot 10 Nov 11:46
if you look at the distribution of Liverpool's finishes, you would say that they are most commonly 3rd or 4th; to say they are top four implies a reasonable number of firsts and seconds

1st :^0
2nd @@
3rd @@@@@
4th @@@@@
5th @@
6th @
7th @
8th @

compare that, to say, ManU:
1st @@@@@@@@@@
2nd @@@
3rd @@@

or Wenger
1st @@@
2nd @@@@@
3rd @@
4th @@@@

Hi Carrumbah, 2 spaces out.. MAYFAIR ! :^0

Are Barcelona European lightweights?

Better one Great win than a dozen bore draws followed by penalty shoot outs.

no like yourselves barca are middleweights compared to the real heavyweights,

ya, and fergie is the little old man in the prison.

Nobby typical liverscum cretin.

sanity it seems you are a little confused

To imagine Liverpool are heavyweights is quite frankly silly.

Sure they have some rusty cups but what future do they have?

probably a more prosprous one than united do imo

prosperous*

5 EUROPEANS CUPS AND THATS WHAT WE CAL HIS-TORY !

barca and united are both truly bigger than liverpool. as little as i care for the chumps league.. (and yes i know fergie loves it as you all keep saying)

id love to get to 6 and see what the vermin have to say then... or even five..

because by that time we will be a few leagues clear as well..

Well there you go.

Owned by a pair of squabbling broke Yanks with £20,000,000 a year transfer budget - the future looks so bright.

How is the ground coming on?

admittedly liverpool have been terrible in certain areas this season already, but we know it, as for united they are STILL under the illusion that a defence with vidic and ferdinand at the back is good enough to cause teams such as chelsea and arsenal a threat. united played well on sunday but still lost, wake up and smell the coffee.

It matters not in this context european cups/cl won is how a club is viewed in terms of success, the future matters not as no one can tell, if unite won five or six, they would be viewd correctly as euro greats imo

some of us care more about being champions of our own country than some competition thats almost fixed for the so called top teams to monopolise..

thats what is wrong with the chumps league.. teams can finish no higher than fifth in their respective league and still laughably call themselves the best in europe.. maybe if they contended for the title and finished 1st or 2nd and won it yeah i can see that..

well a defence WITHOUT rio and vidic did more than enough on sunday other than a disputed goal imo...

ppl concentrate on uniteds alleged decline and defiiences but concentrate on your own a bit more :)

i meant deficiences obv :)

Liverpool stand 7th in the league after what must be one of the most dire string of results in their history.

Their 2 best players need a month off.

Rafa will not be manager if they fail to qualify for the CL.

Without the CL money the squad will have to be trimmed.

ppl keep saying they need a cash in jection... didnt they spend 20 million on an italian who is reknowned for being slightly injury prone?

how many 20 million pound signings did united, chelsea, and arsenal make in the summer just out of interest?

The problem is £20,000,000 does not buy the kind of player United want.

Now City have upped the stakes any world class player will cost at least £40,000,000.

Whoever ends up in fourth spot, they will be 20 points behind the third. I've seen both City and Villa this season at Ewood and neither impressed as top four candidates. As for Spurs, they rarely finish anywhere remotely close to the top four.

are benfica heavyweights

no 5 times or more imo

why not 3

why 5?

come on now enough is enough,its like having a gone at a washed up old fighter,give them some respect

layed em sj to be out of the top 6. Think at the present time it's a good bet.

blimey good luck

Bubbles in the air

@1.13 for £200 stand to lose £26

pretty bubbles :)

i cant believe anyone in their right mind could think liverpool will finish above united this season

5 because that when you get to keep the trophy, not my marker just uefa

man united have been top 3 for 18 years.

now thats tradition

a break with tradition looks on the cards imo

Pitiful to imagine the present Liverpool are heavyweight anythings.

Liverpool's heavyweights sit on the MoTD sofa and are grandparents.