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By:
CJ70
When: 19 Jul 17 14:43
Mollema looks like he's nearly done so Contador will have to go when he finishes.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 14:45
The situation isn't really a terrible one, the Galibier is where the gaps will be opened or closed -- for the GC battle winner it is going in the wrong direction presently, though.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 14:46
Goig before the Galibier would be a mistake for Bertie.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 14:49
Kwaitkowski hasn't closed anything so far,
looks like he is being kept in check,
for at least a good part of the Galibier.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 14:52
4:40 for the Bertie breakaway could be enough by the start of the Galibier, I believe.
By:
CJ70
When: 19 Jul 17 14:53
If the timing is right.. Over 5mins now.. Going out at a ridiculous rate.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 14:54
Wow -- that was quick -- more like 4mins -- I thought.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 14:54
This will be an alarm for SKY, surely.
By:
CJ70
When: 19 Jul 17 14:58
Timing must have been wrong. Went up stupidly quickly and now coming back at the same speed. Down to 4' again.

If Kwiato can get to the bottom of the Galibier. Nieve and Landa could drill the Galibier from the start if Froome is feeling good.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 14:59
We know that maintaining the gap on the Galibier will not be as easy for the breakaway as it is here.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:01
ThThis stage is going to crumbs of a win... Cry
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:04
3mins by the start -- not enough!
5mins by the start -- enough!
...but then you have the TT cooperation along the flats situation to solve. And you need composition information for that.
So what do we know?
Bertie is all-in for the win -- team have done a lot of work -- he is expected to perform -- he is on good sensations and fighting.
Bloody short price -- no value.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:08
So who can beat him from the breakaway?
Depends on where they are...
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:09
Riders from the breakaway may gain favourable conditions by forming alliances to form a strong TT group along the descent/flats...
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:11
Roglic is a very strong TT rider, but will he hold this climb?
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:11
He rode well on the climbs in the Crit Dauphine.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:12
My apologies, that was Romandie, 3rd on GC.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:12
...And won the TT.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:14
I think he will be capable of sticking with Bertie, but gap finally coming down as expected on the climb that bites back.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:16
Pauwels is there for you CJ, hope you have that in a handy way?
By:
CJ70
When: 19 Jul 17 15:16
Roglic probably a similar strength climber to post-ban Contador in France I'd say. He was Lotto NL's GC hope before he came down in that first TT.
By:
CJ70
When: 19 Jul 17 15:17
Have no money on anything as I have no connection today. Basically struggling to load text Laugh
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:18
Pauwels is such a diesel, just requires his own pace and rhythm...
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:18
Laugh
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:19
Bertie at evens, now...
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:21
Gap has stabilised/come down, and it's not even the steep stuff yet.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:22
That's Frank and Atapuma and Frank looks better, Bertie looks to be hitting his limits now. Pauwels setting the diesel pace.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:23
Yes, Atapuma is cooked!
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:25
Well, at least boiling over if not cooked entirely.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:26
Group compositions on the descent/flats is going to be an issue -- this is not easy!
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:27
A solo attacker on the climb just prior to the descent will be rought back by a group combining together behind.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:28
*brought
By:
padlock
When: 19 Jul 17 15:28
Wtf are the gc guys gonna attack,dont they want to win this race ? Annoying stage
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:29
Gap still coming down and 9kms still to climb, it's going to be decided on the group compositions on the flats -- it's very annoying. How slow are they going that Navarro has come across so easily?
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:30
Pace too high and climb not steep enough for anyone to attack the SKY train, padlock.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:31
If there's going to be GC attacks it'll be nearing the top, but that won't mean anything if there is no support on the flats...
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:31
If they begin attacking each other that won't help their chances... Grin
By:
CJ70
When: 19 Jul 17 15:32
Can't see Bardet & Aru taking time on Froome in this descent? Maybe Uran could take time from Froome descending? Don't think it's technical enough for Bardet & Aru reminds me of Schleck.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:32
... the breakaway, that is.
By:
SwingingPick
When: 19 Jul 17 15:33
No mate, I've said it from the outset, it eventually becomes that power descent which advantages a group combining together well. Certainly not a steep, daredevil descent where they fall rocks!
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