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By:
SlippyBlue
When: 30 Jul 23 13:05
England 2.10
Australia 3.00
Draw 5.5
By:
Aptdemon
When: 30 Jul 23 13:54
Given his ridiculous coordination, natural abilities and physical attributes...

Would it be beyond implausible to think, should his knee never return, Stokes could 'learn' to be an effective spin bowler?

Just a random thought...
By:
Aptdemon
When: 30 Jul 23 13:57
Also, Jimmy turning down a run to keep Broad off strike this morning already beginning to lurk a little closer with the target approaching fewer than 300...
By:
brentford
When: 30 Jul 23 13:57
I would have thought adequate part timer at best...but who knows..
By:
Aptdemon
When: 30 Jul 23 14:01
That'd be my gut, too.

Relatively late in his development and seemingly, several have gone from spinner to outright batter (at the highest level) but none spring to mind that have gone the other way.

I know nothing of the magic of spin bowling (perhaps evident with the question). Maybe it needs years of muscle memory, and the like but then a part of me thinks, why not?

And if anyone can, I imagine Stokes can...
By:
Aptdemon
When: 30 Jul 23 14:04
If Wood is fit - this is officially wrong-headed.
By:
brentford
When: 30 Jul 23 14:06
must have a minor issue I think...

Warner took that surprisingly well...
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 30 Jul 23 14:09
Flip flop, Aussies are now the jolly.
By:
Andy
When: 30 Jul 23 14:11
And now odds on
By:
Andy
When: 30 Jul 23 14:15
1.94 looks a bit skinny. Plenty still needed.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 30 Jul 23 14:15
Indeed, 1.95.

This would be some chase if they pull it off.
It could be England doing the rain dance this time.
By:
Aptdemon
When: 30 Jul 23 14:26
10 mins later we're at 1.68 Surprised
By:
Andy
When: 30 Jul 23 14:28
Lol Apt
By:
Aptdemon
When: 30 Jul 23 14:35
WinViz *massively* at odds with the market
By:
Try My Best
When: 30 Jul 23 14:45
What a hell hole London is. Always raining.
By:
Fo'B
When: 30 Jul 23 14:50
Why is the Oval guaranteed an Ashes test? Folk were chatting about it last week and saying, well that's just the way it is. Anyone know how they swung it?
By:
elisjohn
When: 30 Jul 23 14:50
why did broad announce his retirement yesterday , day 3 of a test match , most id think would leave it until after the event has finished ?
By:
brentford
When: 30 Jul 23 14:54
a particularly good lunch I'd imagine...does wonders in this country...get them a bit under the influence and then get them to sign off on something...
By:
Fo'B
When: 30 Jul 23 14:55
elisjohn • July 30, 2023 2:50 PM BST
why did broad announce his retirement yesterday , day 3 of a test match , most id think would leave it until after the event has finished ?

Was thinking that myself. To get the crowd stirred up when he's bowling? To make sure he had a farewell he thought fitting of his career (and ego)? Laugh
By:
Fo'B
When: 30 Jul 23 14:57
Murky stuff Brent.
By:
brentford
When: 30 Jul 23 15:01
partly in jest, though very possible ....I'd imagine Surrey have the ear of some fairly key people that maybe some places don't...
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 30 Jul 23 15:05
Who will be happiest with the rain at 135-0?  How will it affect the pitch for the bowlers?
By:
Jumper45
When: 30 Jul 23 15:08

Jul 30, 2023 -- 2:50PM, Fo'B wrote:


Why is the Oval guaranteed an Ashes test? Folk were chatting about it last week and saying, well that's just the way it is. Anyone know how they swung it?


Is it just tradition that the last Test is always The Oval? Seems always to have been the way.

By:
brentford
When: 30 Jul 23 15:10
would think Eng quite pleased to get off..regroup a bit..come up with some ideas..

don't think pitch will change much..so dry anyway and no live grass on it..if they manage to get on later today might get a bit more swing but be surprised if it does a huge amount..
By:
brentford
When: 30 Jul 23 15:12
they've got a contract though currently Jumper that guaranteed them a test every summer (not sure the duration - though as FoB says was discussed during the last test)
By:
1st time poster
When: 30 Jul 23 15:12
ali doesnt look like he can bowl, dont think root/bairstow etc will be hammering on umpires door saying we should be playing till 9,30 every night this week till we get a result, THIS TIME
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 30 Jul 23 15:13
It's raining very steadily, not heavy as such but this will be a prolonged interruption.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 30 Jul 23 15:18
Thanks brentford.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 30 Jul 23 15:20
The Oval is steeped in cricket history as a test ground and long may that continue!

One of my sporting highlights over all sports, rugby, horse racing, greyhounds etc. is being at The Oval when Devon Malcolm bagged 9-57 against South Africa in 1994.

You just cannot put a price on a day like that.
By:
brentford
When: 30 Jul 23 15:26
no worries LH.

We only used to have 6 test grounds really and certainly in my lifetime typically played 6 home tests a year...the addition of Hampshire, Durham , Glamorgan and a rather dubious bidding process at one point that nearly crippled a few counties has made it all a bit more complicated..
By:
brentford
When: 30 Jul 23 15:27
not sure if Durham and Glamorgan are still in the mix for tests..
By:
Fo'B
When: 30 Jul 23 15:35
Yes lots of history at the Oval Slippy, and even more Ashes history at Headingley arguably. No Ashes test next time in Manchester or Leeds feels wrong with two guaranteed in London imo.
By:
brentford
When: 30 Jul 23 15:40
does feel odd for both to be missed off in the same series...
By:
a1
When: 30 Jul 23 15:43
Radar suggests there won't be any further play today.

Forecast isn't great tomorrow.

Why is the draw so big?
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 30 Jul 23 15:46
It's fair chucking it down now people, I wouldn't be surprised A1 if that's correct.
By:
brentford
When: 30 Jul 23 15:49
met office and metcheck forecasts are quite decent for tommorow currently ...bbc a bit more pessimistic...
By:
1st time poster
When: 30 Jul 23 15:50
30 yrs ago THE OVAL usually meant draw with both teams scoring 500 in one innings and one usually getting 600 on scorched outfield,ball zinging to boundary
By:
a1
When: 30 Jul 23 15:51
Aus aren't going to bust a gut to win the match.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 30 Jul 23 16:00
Would anyone in their position?  England must rue that declaration at Edge.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 30 Jul 23 16:14
The Oval is a fantastic cricket ground. Until I went there I thought Old Trafford should always get a Test along with Leeds and Birmingham but Old Trafford is an awful venue that needs upgrading.

Old Trafford is also full of Northern Monkeys who appear to know little about cricket and j dust in talking at the top of their voice about things going on in their sad little lives. I hated the place and coukd nog wish to leave.

Even yoh Convicts wound gave to admit that Lords and The Oval are both excellent facilities for  the punters!
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