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By:
Angoose
When: 20 Aug 19 11:19
Will look even more ridiculous when England are 20/3 at 11:30 on Thursday morning Shocked
By:
tomtimtum
When: 20 Aug 19 11:23
Will look a great price tho when Aus are 50/6 that first morning Laugh
By:
detraveller
When: 20 Aug 19 11:40
Eng too short is the story of every home test.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 20 Aug 19 11:58
Gotta smile, we bludgeoned him out of the game

We only got him out after Archer knocked him spark out and sent him to hospital LaughLaugh
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 20 Aug 19 11:59
They are gonna be pi**ed though, expect the childish Aussies to try and exact some measure of petty revenge

Sad
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 20 Aug 19 12:02
Gotta back Australia first up though ?

That price is huge even without Smith

They will want to honour their fallen captain ?
By:
detraveller
When: 20 Aug 19 12:08
[size=20pt]fallen captain[size]
By:
detraveller
When: 20 Aug 19 12:08
fallen captain
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detraveller
When: 20 Aug 19 12:08
[size=30pt]fallen captain[size]
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detraveller
When: 20 Aug 19 12:08
fallen captain
By:
detraveller
When: 20 Aug 19 12:08
fallen captain
By:
detraveller
When: 20 Aug 19 12:09
fallen captain
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 20 Aug 19 12:09
We know Smith is the one directing out there Wink
By:
detraveller
When: 20 Aug 19 12:09
fallen whatt???
By:
detraveller
When: 20 Aug 19 12:09
Happy
By:
GRANTCKING
When: 20 Aug 19 12:12
Shocked
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 20 Aug 19 12:17
Have they sent him flowers yet?

"get well soon, smudge. And Archer sends his love"
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 20 Aug 19 12:44
I feel a little sad for the people who have bought tickets for the match missing out on seeing Steve Smith bat!

I have to confess I love to see batsmen getting hit. On the gloves on the arm and the inner thigh is a personal favourite as I know from experience it bring a little tear to the corner of your eyeWink and makes you blink! I like to see them hit on the shoulder and now I like to see them smacked on the front of the grill and on top of the helmet too.

I love to see them dancing about the crease and caught like a rabbit in the headlights. What I don't like to see is anyone getting hurt and not being able to continue. I don't think the odd purple bruise did anyone any harm and that that doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I do not want to see this happening on a dodgy pitch, however, that is insane.

There is s psychological battle going on when the ball flies around. There is fear and panic induced in the dressing room. What I like about Sunday in particular was the way Tim Paine got out. He faced up to the challenge. He chose fight instead of flight and he got out hooking. That was beautiful. Similarly Labuschagne got hit and girded his loins and remained stoic and staunch. I loved that too.

I think I liked it so much because at school all the tough guys, rugby players and the school bully were all afraid of the hard cricket ball. I loved smashing it at them when batting and making them jump out of the way when bowling.

If I had one wish given to me by the almighty it would not be to have Marlene Dietrich tapping at my window is a shortie nighty it would be to be able to bowl FAST!
By:
elisjohn
When: 20 Aug 19 12:47
love to see archer bowling, and walking to the crease with no helmets , swinging the bat, chewing his gum, VIV
By:
elisjohn
When: 20 Aug 19 13:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0FzcFo,
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 20 Aug 19 13:48
Starc should come in for Siddle imho. He is fresh, probably angry and raring to go. He offers something different. Despite being tall and quick he often pitches the ball up and can skittle a tail. With their top batsman gone Aussie will need to bowl England out twice and if they do that they have a chance or retaining The Ashes.

Both sides batting is severely suspect and to contradict Voltaire God is on the side with the big Battalions not the ones who shoot best! Aussie need to bring up the heavy artillery and imho Starc is one of them as he can also rip through the top order with a new ball too.

I like Pattinson but contrary again to popular opinion sometimes it is easier to face a fast bowler particularly if he is not doing much with the ball.
By:
johnnythebull
When: 20 Aug 19 14:41
which team did Voltaire play for..was he an all rounder?Wink
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 20 Aug 19 16:29
Starc needs to play at Headingley, its a fast bowlers paradise ffs

If they stick with Siddle or Pattinson they really are dumb

I'd drop Siddle and go all out pace, its going to be super fast and if England wanna play brutal then the aussies have to do the same

And one last thing... Warner needs to get his mongrel back or go home, what the eff have they done to that bloke? he barely pipes up now
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 20 Aug 19 16:30
Unless Headingley are forced into deliberately slowing it down that is, if the "charity" lovey mob have joined in the debate expect a dust bowl and it bouncing ankle high to the keeper CryCry
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 20 Aug 19 16:43
I thought Headingly was good for batting these days specially is there is no likelihood of rain and more importantly cloud but tbh I really don't know how it is playing.

It is not just about bowling fast. I personally found it easier to play fast bowling. No time to think, pure adrenaline and heightened reactions. Easier to score off too, use the pace. Nudge and nurdle, deflect and glass. Wait for them to get angry. Duck and sway early on with a nonchalant " well that was a waste of your time and effort " then wait for the half volleys and long hops. Rotating the strike is really useful too. Don't let them settle into a rythum. Keep nicking singles with push and run.

Starc is dangerous because he brings it back into right handers. Roy and Bstard play with the bat well away from the body. He can be a bit hit and miss in a Test Match but I think he is also a beautiful bowler and bowls as fast if not faster than Archer. Pattinson is a live wire and maybe Old Trafford is his designation.

I think Warner has not been the same since his shoulder injury. He might have curbed the verbals but his aggressive batting style has also been curtailed to some degree and I think he has questions over stamina hanging over him where his strike rate slows down which was quite noticeable in the IPL.

I think the English batsmen are getting some measure of the Aussies and it is imperative to stay aggressive when possible. Trying to neuter Lyon should be a priority.

Make no mistake though the Aussie fast bowlers are good, very very good imho and if the pitch offers nothing our other bowlers look like trundlers. I thought Leach did a good job.
By:
Injera
When: 20 Aug 19 17:02
Warner's been getting some absolute beauties. I haven't seen him do much wrong.

Smith's absence hardly justifies the drop in Eng's price. Had he played he would have been targeted and hit again. Leaving him out and bringing Marnos in makes sense.

Bancroft is the bigger worry, so too Paine who looks good but rarely hurts you.

England have nearly got their best team on the pitch and look good for 1-1.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 20 Aug 19 17:13
It is not just about bowling fast. I personally found it easier to play fast bowling. No time to think, pure adrenaline and heightened reactions. Easier to score off too, use the pace. Nudge and nurdle, deflect and glass. Wait for them to get angry. Duck and sway early on with a nonchalant " well that was a waste of your time and effort " then wait for the half volleys and long hops. Rotating the strike is really useful too. Don't let them settle into a rythum. Keep nicking singles with push and run.

If I'm being honest I preferred the fast bowling as well, the scoreboard seem to go up quicker when facing the quicks. It was the spinners I lost my rag with, esp with being pinned back and the scoreboard staying where it is, it became frustrating.

But you can't deny its much more fun to watch when batsman are getting hit and looking petrified
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 20 Aug 19 17:19
But you can't deny its much more fun to watch when batsman are getting hit and looking petrified


Deny it? I fceking love it!




I have been waiting for over 40 years to see an England fast bowler make someone dance like that!

Memories are long, don't get mad get even!
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 20 Aug 19 17:34
The thing is though I was facing village level fast bowlers not Jofra Archer LaughLaugh

And totally agree whispering
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 20 Aug 19 17:50
Village bowlers bowl at around 75mph.

When you are not used to it they are brisk enough. I prefered to face the tall straight armed fast bowler. Easy to read the line then you can concentrate on length. I used to take half a pace forward so I could go on a play a full bowl or quickly and the word is quickly bounce backwards to deal with anything short. The key imho is also to get in line quickly.

We were always told to go back and across but fast bowlers are too quick at times. The back leg should just go across so you can get inside the line, if you are there you can twatt it and if not it is easier to twist or genuflect out of harms way. No helmet, watch the ball. You only have to move your head six inches for it to miss, not that hard for a young man or professional athlete who should be used to it with the advent of bowling machines. Do these guys practise?

I would say this though it is hard and it is dangerous. There is a level of courage that is needed and when you get abpove 85mph it is easy to make a miscalculation on length, particularly just short of a length.
By:
sewter lives again
When: 20 Aug 19 18:57
I faced a young David Lawrence when he was at Gloucester an adrenaline rush all right-not least because no-one, and least of all David, knew where the very fast balls were going.

Pre helmets and with very limited equipment compared to today you soon learnt to sway and duck
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 20 Aug 19 19:07
Pre helmets and with very limited equipment compared to today you soon learnt to sway and duck
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 20 Aug 19 19:14

Aug 20, 2019 -- 5:19PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


But you can't deny its much more fun to watch when batsman are getting hit and looking petrifiedDeny it? I fceking love it!I have been waiting for over 40 years to see an England fast bowler make someone dance like that!Memories are long, don't get mad get even!


Mark Wood was doing it a few months ago in caribbean at 95mph

By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 20 Aug 19 19:43
It must terrifying to face someone who can bowl that fast and that accurate, I was a little petrified at the 70mph pie chucking stuff at first Laugh and on the dead pitches we were playing on it probably wasn't even that quick really

96mph bouncer coming right at you must be quite terrifying even for club players?

But batsman do have awful techniques against it lets be honest, smith look like getting hit every time and he's elite level

Smith's technique will mean he gets hit more often as well, its awful for someone who has somehow averaging 60?
By:
tomtimtum
When: 20 Aug 19 20:26
Been some fascinating tales from WD recently about his "glory days".
Can't wait to hear the one about how he had to bat out 7 overs against a "highly promising" 12 year old spinner to secure a losing draw for his team and keep his teams hopes of avoiding relegation from the Kent Division V 2nd XI league alive!
By:
elisjohn
When: 20 Aug 19 20:36
must be the biggest odds ever on an ashes draw in england near9s now on here
By:
trader pj
When: 20 Aug 19 20:56
what do England @ 2.0 backers do now ??! LaughCool
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 20 Aug 19 21:06

Aug 20, 2019 -- 8:56PM, trader pj wrote:


what do England @ 2.0 backers do now ??!


Take Profit!

By:
GRANTCKING
When: 20 Aug 19 21:10
england were 2.0 when smith wasnt ever gonna play? sheesh
By:
elisjohn
When: 20 Aug 19 21:20
draw is great here 8/1, 1st over no wkt down to 7sLaugh
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