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By:
Hamlin
When: 22 Mar 18 09:05
Given the risk of a washout how many do NZ want before declaring so they can skittle Eng again.
By:
tyco161
When: 22 Mar 18 09:06
NZ not going to declare before 350 if you ask me...
By:
tyco161
When: 22 Mar 18 09:11
but if there is a washout tomorrow and Sat and Sun then they might just declare first thing on Mon morning.. you never know.
By:
Injera
When: 22 Mar 18 09:12
Don't know detraveller. There have so few Day nighters I doubt if there's been much rain.
By:
black shuck
When: 22 Mar 18 09:21
Surely nz have enough now
By:
tyco161
When: 22 Mar 18 09:21
I always thought wind was the main drying element followed by heat
By:
Hamlin
When: 22 Mar 18 09:25
Just imagine if England had got to 100 the draw would probably be odds on
By:
jucel69
When: 22 Mar 18 09:29
what a seamless transition between the two tests, no overlap or waiting whatsoever!
By:
tyco161
When: 22 Mar 18 09:31
Haha yeah perfect isn't it, time for bed for me...
By:
geordie1956
When: 22 Mar 18 09:52
will Bayliss be sacked before the english cricket season starts...fecking abysmal
By:
Crawford
When: 22 Mar 18 10:00
:-D   :-D    :-D

Unlucky, ginger chavscum with stupid names!  Woakes?  Root?  Leach?

And of course Broad, who if was half as good as he thinks he is, would be twice as good as actually is.
By:
peckerdunne
When: 22 Mar 18 10:54
I think you have got to the root of the situation with that broad statement.
By:
wondersobright
When: 22 Mar 18 11:06
And of course Broad, who if was half as good as he thinks he is, would be twice as good as actually is
LaughLaughLaugh v good!!

if it was up to me bayliss would have gone after the ashes
this team has gone backwards under him and his lack of a backbone to drop failing senior players is pretty incredible
not talking about 1 or 2 tests with bad performances, I am talking about multiple series of constant failing
By:
detraveller
When: 22 Mar 18 13:44
The bottom 5 still scored more than twice the top 5. What would England do without that lower order?
By:
DAN1974
When: 22 Mar 18 17:54
Not much showing on the radar yet, i feel i am going to be glued to it for the next 8 hours Crazy
By:
DAN1974
When: 22 Mar 18 18:10
Draw on the move
By:
Injera
When: 22 Mar 18 18:18
Monday looks good. Plenty of tomorrow and the weekend has chance of rain at 50% or higher.

Would NZ declare early doors Day 2??
By:
DAN1974
When: 22 Mar 18 18:22
i dont think they will, more likely to come out on Monday and play a shot a ball and then try to get at least 60 overs at them. Thats if it does rain for 3 days of course.
By:
Injera
When: 22 Mar 18 18:26
I think there will be gaps in the rain over the next 3 days. I can't find any forecast that just says 'rain' as a 100% certainty. So guess it's not one big front.
By:
detraveller
When: 22 Mar 18 18:52

Mar 22, 2018 -- 6:22PM, DAN1974 wrote:


i dont think they will, more likely to come out on Monday and play a shot a ball and then try to get at least 60 overs at them. Thats if it does rain for 3 days of course.


That's what I've been thinking. NZ shouldn't be giving any consideration to rain. Assuming it rains for 3 days, they still have a 60-70 over shot at England. Any time they can manage to play in the next three days is bonus.

By:
DAN1974
When: 22 Mar 18 19:02
In that senario what is the draw price? evens? probably lower. i will be leveling up before then anyway but it will be interesting to see  how the market reacts
By:
VardonVoo.
When: 22 Mar 18 19:22
As long as it's not a three-day non-stop mizzle-fest. Unfortunately the satellite imagery and the surface pressure map look to me like it IS one big front, but like Manuel "I know narrrthing".

The big question as far as trading is concerned is whether there will be play on Friday morning.
By:
tyco161
When: 22 Mar 18 19:36
It could well be a full days play today (I would be more confident of this if starting at traditional 11am) or it could be a total mizzle drizzle fest. It really is a lottery with the weather at the moment. Radar watching time and finger biting for many on the forum methinks.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 22 Mar 18 19:55
It’s also one where even the radar can mislead because it isn’t so good at mizzle as it is at proper moving rain fronts. My best guess is a fair bit of play today on which basis the draw price is crazy short in a game this advanced but I already acted on that feeling by laying my draw green into red in the mid 5s at CoP so I’m only going to go beyond the £2k draw red I’ve reaccumulated if I’m pretty confident. There’s also the question of how excited the market will be if play starts on time and looks likely to go on for a while at least. I think that should get us up to 7 plus, especially if the game moves on quickly but I’m not sure how much time lost today (Fri NZ time) is priced in.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 22 Mar 18 20:14
I have convinced myself that a draw lay in the high 4s is great value, even though I’m already red and even if I get stuck with it. That’s probably a plausible enough shot for 160-170 more overs (England would need to last over 100 overs) and I think we’ll get a lot nearer 200, if we need them.
By:
tyco161
When: 22 Mar 18 20:17
I'm thinking your way too, with the caveat that NZ will bat slow when they do, but England will not last much past 250 runs at their second dig. That ball NZ had was swinging and moving quite nicely in the hands of Boult and Southee. Radar watching time it is.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 22 Mar 18 20:21
I think there is plenty of time in the game. NZ will not declare unless the ball is hooping around. There could well be a full days pl;ay tomorrow and more on Monday at worst...worst so still plenty of time for a result but hopefully some rain panic too on Saturday and Sunday
By:
tyco161
When: 22 Mar 18 20:55
so far so good, radar looks clear for Auckland. That band to the West, whether it stays away or not may be the question
By:
DAN1974
When: 22 Mar 18 21:40
I think its going to be that band from the North that is going to hit, thats the one im staring at at the moment anyway
By:
Fatslogger
When: 22 Mar 18 21:59
Unless you’re looking further north than me, that’s at most some showers, unlikely to take a lot of play away. I think we get a lot of cricket today and it could even be almost all over tonight, if say NZ all out in 50 or so overs and England lose three or four before the close. I’ve got a couple of small backs in to take draw red down near zero set up in the 6s but I’m very tempted to move them up or out. Having said that, does have the feel of a test where keeping yourself fairly even green and light on your feet to be able to react is likely to be a good thing.
By:
DAN1974
When: 22 Mar 18 22:08
there's a band that's currently over kaitaia,its slow  moving but it looks like its heading towards Auckland, its coming more from the North west, but i agree at the moment its looking good for some play.
By:
VardonVoo.
When: 22 Mar 18 22:08
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/weather-forecast.auckland.html

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/weather-forecast/video?auto=true
By:
jucel69
When: 23 Mar 18 00:22
nice little band of heavy showers heading towards Auckland
By:
jucel69
When: 23 Mar 18 00:24
Think the main interruptions will be coming from the east. The big band (to the north) seems to be drifting past
By:
tyco161
When: 23 Mar 18 00:29

Mar 23, 2018 -- 12:24AM, jucel69 wrote:


Think the main interruptions will be coming from the east. The big band (to the north) seems to be drifting past


I think you may be right. The updated forecast is now worse for today and still bad for tomorrow... But Sun Mon looks ok at this stage

By:
jucel69
When: 23 Mar 18 00:31
Sunday per met - Occasional rain with heavy falls possible from afternoon, easing evening. Light winds.
By:
tyco161
When: 23 Mar 18 00:33

Mar 23, 2018 -- 12:31AM, jucel69 wrote:


Sunday per met - Occasional rain with heavy falls possible from afternoon, easing evening. Light winds.


That could mean a washout, especially with light winds

By:
jucel69
When: 23 Mar 18 00:34
Yeh light winds is a killer, it can just drizzle for hours
By:
jucel69
When: 23 Mar 18 00:41
always difficult to work out how much is priced in by the market
By:
tyco161
When: 23 Mar 18 00:44

Mar 23, 2018 -- 12:41AM, jucel69 wrote:


always difficult to work out how much is priced in by the market


That is where you need to work out how much you think is going to be lost, deduce match situation and work out what prices should be. If they deviate from the market price then there is maybe something to be made. But yeah market does not always move like you think it would. At these prices, draw at 4.90 I have no idea what the market is thinking in terms of weather, there is the uncertainty also about how England will bat in their second dig...

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