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South Africa v India - 3rd Test at Jo'burg
South Africa v India - 3rd Test at Jo'burg
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Deliberate, cogitate, digest and get the fcuk back on
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yep thats 100% true DS
Faf was happy to continue when SAF were bowling, can't suddenly change his mind now SAF batting |
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I can't believe I have reduced my exposure on SA and increased green on India in a single stroke for what likes free!
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I think it is all about the Umpires. I don't think FAF is a Cissy!
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If this is called off it will represent the coup de grâce of test match cricket that isn't ashes. It will never recover, its already dying.
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comms hamming it up!
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Someone has dug this out:
If a match starts but is later abandoned for any reason other than weather (which may include but is not limited to: dangerous or unplayable wicket or outfield; pitch vandalism; strike or boycott; crowd protests/violence; stadium damage; acts of terrorism; and acts of God), Betfair reserves the right to void all bets, except for those on markets that have been unconditionally determined. In which case LTD is a free play! |
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Virat looked pretty happy coming out of that office
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He'd be raging if it had gone against him, not one to hide his emotions!
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No Supps,
Betfair have the right but they could also call it a draw |
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If someone says Russian Roulette is safe and then after the first guy dies realises it actually isn't doesn't mean it should still be considered safe
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Draw price reality taking hold!
Husar! |
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What did Betfair do for the Antigua match in 2009 - did they void it or settle it as a draw??
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you're absolutely right hamlin.
however the umpires shouldn't be basing their decisions on the harm caused to the batsman. you would hope they were able to predict whether this pitch was unsuitable or not, and then stick to that decision. |
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Virat on the phone to his bookie!
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end of play for the day.
This is so exciting. I just cannot see how they can say the pitch is dangerous after what we have seen today. It is not fit fr test Match cricket sure but India battled through. SA must be given the chance not to be called cissies! The ball is new and hard. It does bounce more when so. Man up! |
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What did Betfair do for the Antigua match in 2009 - did they void it or settle it as a draw??
they voided |
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betfair help also clarified this morning that an abandonment for a dangerous pitch would be bets void on the exchange. both on twitter and on the phone
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These comms dont know the rules, the captains have the final say on whether they will play or not, not the officials
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Big Sue would have em playing!
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Only fair to play on.........if SA needed another 40 runs they would carry on
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Have betfair taken town the non-exchange market for it?
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Does it require both captains agree to abandon it as a draw, or both to agree to play on? What if they can't agree? Whats the default option?
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cardinal Scott- I don't see why it should.
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If Faf deems it unplayable and Kohli does not maybe faf will concede the game to India as its a dead rubber. Just throwing out scenarios don't hang me.
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Here's a technical point then - both captains can presumably agree a draw at any time in the match in any conditions,so umpires/officials deciding to abandon is covered by BFs rules but two captains agreeing a draw is surely just a draw, regardless of what influenced the decision.
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Here are the laws pertaining to the pitch:
6.4.1 If the on-field umpires decide that it is dangerous or unreasonable for play to continue on the match pitch, they shall stop play and immediately advise the ICC Match Referee. 6.4.2 The on-field umpires and the ICC Match Referee shall then consult with both captains. 6.4.3 If the captains agree to continue, play shall resume. 6.4.4 If the decision is not to resume play, the on-field umpires together with the ICC Match Referee shall consider whether the existing pitch can be repaired and the match resumed from the point it was stopped. In considering whether to authorise such repairs, the ICC Match Referee must consider whether this would place either side at an unfair advantage, given the play that had already taken place on the dangerous pitch. 6.4.5 If the decision is that the existing pitch cannot be repaired, then the match is to be abandoned as a draw. |
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I asked Betfair to clarify whether bets would be void in event of match being abandoned in light of their rule. 7.2. They confirmed that settlement would still depend on whether officals declared the match a draw or abandoned.
7.2 Test matches If a match starts but is later abandoned for any reason other than weather (which may include but is not limited to: dangerous or unplayable wicket or outfield; pitch vandalism; strike or boycott; crowd protests/violence; stadium damage; acts of terrorism; and acts of God), Betfair reserves the right to void all bets, except for those on markets that have been unconditionally determined. If the match is not scheduled to be completed within five days after the original scheduled completion date, then all bets on markets for this event will be void, except for bets on any markets that have been unconditionally determined. |
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Antigua abandonment was pretty quick into the game.
I got the feeling betfair would void it but really that is unfair even though my bigger red is now on the draw. I am pretty sure they will resume tomorrow. Hopefully the pitch will be helpful and India will take 3 or 4 wickets in the morning and all ridiculous questions will fall away. This game will be played to conclusion....if it doesn't rain! |
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This is open to corruption all this, on this decision many pounds and rupees are at stake.
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if that is the case bridey it does make the draw lay a free bet!
I am leaving my draw red but think the game must go on! |
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I would like to hear from the Umpires to be honest. Why have they got involved!
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Indian manager on whether he is unhappy - "We have not prepared this wicket. This is a South African wicket. We have come and played here. We have got the bowling arsenal to give it back. It's not a wicket we prepared. We have to come and play. Just like when they come to our country, we have to be prepared to play." Indian team manager: The match referee called me at tea time in case the wicket got dangerous, in which case both the captains would be consulted. We had the view that the wicket has been the same for all three days. Today we had the highest strike rates and the least wickets. We would like to continue playing. The match referee was fearful that in case the new ball was going to be taken, it might be behave dangerously. The ball that hit Dean Elgar on his helmet was the reason play was called off today. We are willing to play. Umpires are the final judges on the fitness of the ground, regardless of the views of either of the captains. Tomorrow before the start of play we will be told. In between they will discuss - the match officials and the umpires |