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well i didnt see that coming..england showing some fight
nice one BJT |
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yeah Lanka going to script...
beer time |
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Come on Joe BELIEVE
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one of the best sessions of cricket for a long time
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Aus would have flown if they hadn't got that last wicket
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If they can get another 50 runs without losing more than 1 more wicket before the new ball then they have a chance with Root critical to any hope we have; great days play which proves test cricket is as absorbing as any sport there is
At least England are being competitive and showing some fight |
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I think boycott & a few people on here owe woakes an apology, fkin fantastic player when fully fit & his confidence is up, got a great all round game
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It will still stay take something of a miracle but at least they will have scared the Aussies a little bit.
Clearly we are pretty desperate for at least another batsman with the technique to stick around for a length of time. Once they get to 30 or 40 that needs to be converted into something much bigger. Hopefully, if needed, Overton can repeat something like his first innings but you can't see much coming from Broad and Anderson. You would almost think Broad would be better off just going for it because defensively he isn't going to survive. |
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Not been on since the start of this Test/no laptop, but a very interesting game now in progress. Australia dominated, the first 8 sessions of the Test Match - but not getting England to follow on, was an incredible decision, as they would have bowled in favourable conditions under the lights. England were give a small lifeline and they have taken that well. Ripped the Australians out and have made the right decisions when batting. Stoneman batted well, but out for 36 you need to go big once past 20, Milan struggled big time, but the thing I like about him, is he really did battle as hard as he could. Joe Root, really needs to go on and get 150 for England to win this match and another good decision by England was to bring in a proper night watchmen in Chris Woakes and he could take an awful lot of getting out and of course is a proper bowler/batsmen all rounder. He received a couple of quality balls in his short stay this evening and kept them out. The English public know he's more than a capable batsmen. Mohin and Jonny Bairstow could also give the Aussies problems and the battling Overton as well. However the Aussies are still favourites, but if Smith had got England to follow on, this game would have already been over, a quite an incredible decision.
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yep woakes is v handy batsman, he can score & has good defence, luxury to have at 8 (9
with stokes in team)already got smith out & warner x2 this series and not had the new ball either ![]() plus he's 1 of the best fielders in the team he's had time out with injury & he has been building his fitness up, really do not get the slagging of him at all tbh |
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the majority of the slagging should be levelled at the english batting imo
once again NOWHERE NEAR GOOD ENOUGH cannot expect the bowlers to bail them out time and time and time again so that they can win matches in which the batting has been woeful, its demoralising ![]() |
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I got out of my Australia back even though they will still probably win. Keep some profit and let someone else carry the risk of day 5.
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I remember an ODI some years back where Broad and I think Ravi Bopara made a near last-wicket stand to nurdle away at a sizeable total and take us home to victory. They played with discipline and got us there. He certainly used to be capable of sensible play.
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Aha! Just found the link:-
http://www.espncricinfo.com/engvind/content/story/308985.html Quote from the (2007) article "Broad was looking like the Test No. 7 that everyone hopes he will eventually become". Seems we're still waiting.... |
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broad has dined off that 150 against pakistan (when other things were going on) for far too long
he has been a walking wicket for ages and will be batting number 11 when jimmy retires |
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Based on the first test the criticism of Woakes was entirely justified. His figures with bat and ball were very ordinary. He has battled back well and perhaps he just needed a confidence boost. Hopefully, he carries on the improvement.
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i don't mind woakes. It's Woakes and Overton, or Woakes and Ball, or Ball and Overton that i mind. in fact, out of the three, I'd pick Woakes everytime.
The issues is our selectors not taking a risk on someone with real pace as the fourth bowler. In England it's fine, but we're f*cked in australia if we don't gut them with the new ball or have swing friendly conditions. Although Overton scored some good first innings runs, we shouldn't be selecting our fourth bowler on his ability to shore up our batting, particularly with Woakes and Ali in the side. |
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I was at Lord's for Broad's ton. People think the whole day or match was corrupt. It wasn't. It was the odd no ball and that was it. (The no ball was purely to prove that the fixer had influence - noone bet on that.)
It was one of the most competitive day's cricket I've seen. The bowling was excellent and fielding keen. Pakistan had no answer to Broad. He batted magnificently. |
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Woakes was a joke selection 3 (?) years ago at the Oval. He was a typical English 3 dimensional jack of all trades master of none cricketer.
But then he gained pace and he turned into a serious bowler. Without Wood, where does the extra pace come from? I still think Ball should have played here under lights. Chris Read describes Ball as the new Jimmy. He should know, having kept to him.. So why has Bayliss given up on him after one Test on a featherbed at the Gabba? Sadly Garton isn't ready, Plunkett and Mills not considered fit enough for Tests. So where is the pace? Archer? I've been massively impressed by Australia's 3 quicks. Jonny taking the ball around his ankles, Paine taking it over his head. At Perth we're toast. We HAVE to win tomorrow. |
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injera...2013...he wasn't ready for selection when picked for that oval test (england have a lot of previous on this)
he has always had tons of promise and he's turned into a gun all round cricketer when fully fit (he looks near that now) |
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perth has been pretty flat the last few tests there, the old WACA tests seem to be a thing of the past (soon will be gone altogether)
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2013? How time flies. Scary. Agree about Perth but it's bound to be quicker than this.
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The point about the injury worries with Wood and Plunkett, and concern about Garton's readiness, is that taking a risky punt on them is a better value play on certain Australian wickets with a kookaburra than to "playing it safe" with someone who lacks pace. A good captain can manage them well, three/four over bursts of back breaking effort and then rotate. Again, it's not the right play in England, but it is in Australia, and while Melbourne or Sydney's weather may help with swing, it's not going to happen at perth, nor was it going to happen at the gabba. It probably wouldn't have helped here were it not for the day night conditions. (i'm pretty sure i was also at Lord's on that day as well - i don't recall Broad's ton being all that assured with lots of streaky driving). |
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Can't disagree with that.
No matter who 'coaches' England they lack any kind of innovation. The Gabba was a 2 spinner pitch if ever I saw one and we could easily have played 2 if Bayliss had anything about him. (Not Crane, Rashid is out there, somewhere). They can't read pitches. They think Gabba = pace and lack any kind of knowledge of pitches. Does my head in. The Plunkett situation baffles me. He was the standout quick in the ODIs. If he can bowl 10 can't he bowl 15?? |
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Some of us have worked tirelessly on this test match and some of us are gonna fritter it all away on day 5....I can't allow that to be me.
This market has been as stable as any I have seen post stumps which probably means its very accurate at the moment. |
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I have to work tomorrow and my alarm goes at 5.30am. I will put the tv on and my head tells me England will have 7 or 8 wickets down, heading for defeat and it will be the same old story. My heart is telling me that we might have lost one wicket and Root will have a hundred+ and we only need another 70 or so to win. If that's the case work can wait. Will I be at work on time?
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Im sort of glad jimmy proved me wrong. But he needs to do it throughout the rest of the series aswell. Woakes finally woke up and looked dangerous and his figures backed it up. Still think the Aussies will win this though, an early breakthrough and its pretty much over. As for the waca test I can only see one outcome sadly, they will try to quicken it up just to bring out the absolute best in the 3 quickies, the quicks have looked very good on flat slower pitches and imagine one that actually has pace in it.
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good morning one and all
despite the comeback over the last day and a half still a monumental task facing england. even if they don't lose early wickets oz got 2 cracks with the new ball either side of the break up their sleeve |
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Plumb
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WTF
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complete guess from dar
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Fecking Aleem Dar
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this could get nasty
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Bitch of a start that, kneejerk lay of 1.22 by me after it.
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"living on a prayer"
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Looks imp
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