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**The Mighty England & South Africans v South Africa 1st Test**

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By:
jimmyt
When: 19 Jul 12 19:45
i think you'll find the forecast tomorrow is the worst
By:
Injera
When: 19 Jul 12 20:10
Of course SA can win. It's not a 3 day game!

I'm hoping for 400+ and then SA 50-1. Then it'll be time to lay the draw.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 19 Jul 12 20:17
Looking at it logically, ENG price is pretty much where it was at the start of play but they have 267 runs on the board with the loss of merely three wickets.  Would expect ENG to move in and draw move out
By:
kingmax
When: 19 Jul 12 20:19
england will bost 450+ that for me is enoguh for england to avoid defeat
By:
mafeking
When: 19 Jul 12 20:32
england 450 and 300/6 dec
saffers 350 and 250

something along those lines looks on the cards. england well in charge. a big ask for a rusty saffer side to escape with a draw here
By:
judorick
When: 19 Jul 12 21:41
I agree with Mafeking , England look set for the win

only prolonged rain can create the draw

240 ish overs to bowl saffers out twice and with pitch already turning on day one swann could be the match winner on day 5

will be interesting to see howany england post and whether they try to accelerate once they get to 430 ish
By:
alabaster crashes down
When: 19 Jul 12 22:10
SA bowling was awful today, I doubt very much the pitch will look quite so innocuous when england bowl. You could make a case for all three wickets being gifts and I'm struggling to remember more than half a dozen threatening balls. It helps if you bowl at the wickets occasionally.
By:
marychain1
When: 19 Jul 12 22:31
SA look well undercooked for me. Think England win this comfortably but then expect a bit of a reaction in the second test.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 19 Jul 12 23:29
Happily the draw price is edging down again, I never want to see a Scalping Gone Wrong! Grin
By:
Max and Paddy
When: 19 Jul 12 23:39
Hello to all you twunts who weren't at the Oval today Grin

Four more days of England dominance, please. They were APPALLING today. Me and my dog would have bowled better than that. We'd certainly have shown more hunger.

SHAME ON THE THIRD-BEST TEST TEAM IN THE WORLD.
By:
judorick
When: 19 Jul 12 23:45
engerland are gonna win
By:
d13phe
When: 20 Jul 12 08:50
England still not out of the woods yet

another overcast morning and SA have the new ball and a point to prove

anything under 400 on this track would be a good result for SA

still england in a very dominant position
By:
Sudoku_Junior
When: 20 Jul 12 08:57
Weather what concerns me with englands chances. i dont want to lose 40 overs worth or so play today. Still england in the driving seat, would like at least 450 though.
By:
Mariner Paul
When: 20 Jul 12 08:57
Has Morse said that the draw is a cert yet?
By:
aljohnson
When: 20 Jul 12 08:57
Is it raining or is rain on the way? Draw down 10 ticks overnight.
By:
d13phe
When: 20 Jul 12 08:59
the forecast isn't great for today
By:
lambers1
When: 20 Jul 12 09:02
Any play this morning will force the draw out from 1.70, it is quite overcast at the moment at the ground but def would start in this.  light rain expected around lunchtime.  I am a patient draw layer, as I expect Sat and Sun to be fine and the pitch to show its irregularities...cant see how people say this is a flat belter, only the new ball went through to the keeper and there was at least half dozen moments of the ball not bouncing at all.  Swanny to take out the lefties on day 4...job done!
By:
fairfranco
When: 20 Jul 12 09:07
South Africa's bowling has been a bit  baffling really.

Playing against Cook and (for the most part) Trott there isn't much point bowling wide of the stumps.  It eventually got Trott who took a surprising swing at a ball he'd normally leave but Cook very rarely gives a passing glance to such balls.

Sure Cook plays well off of his pads but then with some varied length balls at him you have much more chance of getting him than playing wide.

When England come out they will be bowling at the stumps and making the South Africans play.  It will invariably produce wickets.
By:
Sudoku_Junior
When: 20 Jul 12 09:08
Always expected the draw to shorten overnight, although the forecast hasnt helped. Still fancy england to get SA cheaply in one of their innings.
By:
marychain1
When: 20 Jul 12 09:22
If I was a draw layer, (which I'm not) I wouldnt be overly concerned about losing a few overs today. I still expect England to put up a big score and have 2 and a half or three days to bowl SA out twice. The pitch will be doing all sorts by day 4.
By:
Bravado_Billionaire
When: 20 Jul 12 09:34
morning all - it has been raining most of the morning here in london, looks to have cleared up for now, but very gloomy. Expect play, however, may lose some overs... not 40 odd imo...
By:
Bravado_Billionaire
When: 20 Jul 12 09:37
I mean we wont lose 40+ overs, not that there wont be 40 odd overs... just thought I would clarify in case someone misunderstands
By:
Asparagus Man
When: 20 Jul 12 10:19
Plenty of time to make up today - could play until 7.30pm tonight. Forecast looks very solid for next 3 days so 98 over days in order.
By:
Bravado_Billionaire
When: 20 Jul 12 10:24
agreed Asparagus Man
By:
KAPILDEV
When: 20 Jul 12 10:34
Good morining all
By:
kingmax
When: 20 Jul 12 10:35
anyone think englsnd rsck up 500?
By:
KAPILDEV
When: 20 Jul 12 10:36
i think eng sccored 400-425
By:
DirkDiggler
When: 20 Jul 12 10:43
Weather report looks better than anticipated. Hopeful for plenty of play today. England will bowl better than undercooked saffers, I knew they would be. It's flat we know that but they have bowled poorly.
By:
DStyle
When: 20 Jul 12 10:44
kingmax 19 Jul 12 19:27 
dstyle.. what i dont get is why wouldnt u just back england? SA cannot win from here... cant be done.


you're right.
By:
d13phe
When: 20 Jul 12 10:45
big session coming up

new ball and overcast coniditions, the saffers will have to fancy getting an early one and getting Bopara in
By:
johnnyrant
When: 20 Jul 12 10:46
It was flat there last year and India couldn't cope with our attack. Don't see why it'll be any different with SA. Plus, this will be turning sideways on last day.
By:
Gin
When: 20 Jul 12 10:47
England will be pretty disappointed to get less than 470+ from here and from the look of the pitch that could be good enough.

Out of interest, did anybody see a spread for first innings runs supremacy yesterday?
By:
KAPILDEV
When: 20 Jul 12 10:50
d13 .yes your right..
By:
kingmax
When: 20 Jul 12 10:52

Jul 20, 2012 -- 10:45AM, d13phe wrote:


big session coming upnew ball and overcast coniditions, the saffers will have to fancy getting an early one and getting Bopara in


like yesterday? if cook gets 20 runs this morning hell get 200

By:
d13phe
When: 20 Jul 12 10:54
i have no doubt that england won yesterday kingmax

but test cricket can change in half an hour

suddenly england could get bowled out for 350 and SA could get 150-2 by close

thats why this session is the key

your right if Cook gets going again then England are in pole position but they arent yet because of the slow scoring yesterday
By:
judorick
When: 20 Jul 12 10:55
first session will be all important, if England add 80 runs without losing a wicket they will be set to crush the bowling in the afternoon

on the other hand lose a couple of wickets and it all changes

fascinating and why we watch test cicket
By:
kingmax
When: 20 Jul 12 11:01
iv had 50 on sa for SA for sn hour
By:
kingmax
When: 20 Jul 12 11:06
piss stayne looks poor
By:
Bravado_Billionaire
When: 20 Jul 12 11:08
raining really hard in east london right now...
By:
kingmax
When: 20 Jul 12 11:10
yes there is 1 huge mo fo throwing raindrops the size of footbslls out
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