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**Eng vs Windies 3rd Test - official pre-game chatter**
**Eng vs Windies 3rd Test - official pre-game chatter**
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MM - above scenario is not out of the question. It is NOT free money in the street
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Forfieted innings - how many time has this happend since you know when?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_and_forfeiture
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does a ball have to be bowled for any bets to stand?
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couldnt be laying draw at present but might be worth it at some point f/c for days 3-5 gives us fighting chance of 200+ overs
As said earlier if majority of overs comes in backend of game then far different to front end when side will play it as 5 day game. england would have been able to win quite a few tests within 2 to 2 1/2 days in recent years if they didnt have luxury of racking up 450-550 knowing they had 5 days wi making 150 ao in tricky conditions might well see england looking for 300/5 dec on day4 for example rather than 500+ if wi had made 150 ao on day1 |
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nigel son there simply won't be enough time for a result here
the draw is a cert simple as that |
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Yeah must be one ball bowled - That should be fine though
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in fact the more rain,the more the chance of a 1 innings test match being arranged
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Steptoes - any thoughts on the 1 innings scenario?
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book son that will not happen
grow up son |
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pathetic, they have 5 odis starting soon, no way this is getting cut... stop ramping
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MM - it's a possibility. I don't see it as likely but telling someone to grow up isn't useful.
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mm,grow up ? these are events that could happen,your childish comments & threads suggest to me your off on half term this week
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the ONLY way this is even possible is if play can only start on day 3/or 4... they wont agree to this until at least the 3rd day...
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At least it gives us a chance to watch this classic from 2000.
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will be tough going nigel whichever side bats you would think
think england winning toss and sticking wi in, as they would do I think, would make it interesting |
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forfeiting an innings WILL NOT happen . it just won't . get that through your heads .
and get your banks on the draw . i'm riding this one all the way to 1.01 . |
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hmmm.. just don't think there will be enough play for a result unless something remarkable happens.
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can they call off a test match after 3 days... im more worries by a ball not being bowled...
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Saturday is fine.
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steps , i think nigel is referring to a possible situation where the captains mutually agree to a one innings match because of the substantial amount of time lost to the weather
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king,make up your mind,bit of a contradiction by you,no play for 3 or 4 days,only way a 1 innings match could happen you said
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dont see captains agreeing to 1 innings match
england 2-0 up and 1 innings game far more of lottery |
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England have good momentum and won't risk losing by forfeiting an innings.
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steptoe,agreed it is unlikely,my point is at 1.3 with this being a dead test match its worth taking the chance.
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(from WIKI )
Only one innings has been voluntarily forfeited in Test cricket. This was on 18 January 2000 at Centurion, South Africa in the fifth and final Test between South Africa and England. South Africa had already won the series, as they were 2–0 up after the first four matches. After South Africa scored 155 for 6 on the first day, rain washed out the next three days. |
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Steps - It is but then they've already won. What's 2-1 against 2-0. The glory of winning 3-0 might just edge it for Strauss although he does seems a down to earth kind of guy. if KP was captain I'd be more worried as a draw backer. I think the scenario is less likely than I first imagined but still happy to have hedged out here for now. remember I was backing the draw all the way down from 3! Will consider again later.
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That was until Hansie Cronje, the South African captain, entered into a deal with his English counterpart, Nasser Hussain, that South Africa would continue batting till they reached about 250 and then declare. England and then South Africa would then both forfeit an innings, leaving England approximately 250 to win (in the event the target was 249). At that time, the laws only permitted a side to forfeit its second innings,[3] so England's first innings was treated as having been declared at 0 for 0 after 0 balls. England went on to score 251 for 8 and win by 2 wickets.[4] Many of the South African team criticized Cronje at the time for setting too low a target. It later emerged that Cronje had been approached by a bookmaker, and asked to ensure the game would end with a positive result.[5] Nasser Hussain and the England team were not aware of this at the time, taking the South African request at face value. The fourth test of the 2006 series between Pakistan and England was declared forfeited by Pakistan after they refused to take to the field as a protest of allegation of ball tampering. The umpires awarded the match to England. The match was involuntarily forfeited under Law 21 rather than being voluntarily forfeited under Law 14.[citation need |
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england could be in first and 40-4 on with pitch under overs and overcast conditions
wi have proved they can compete for spells n tests but not all way through would suit them far more than england hence no good to eng |
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LOL
 crone's bookies layer the draw BIG and needed a result  |
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*Cronje
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i'm sick of reading this sh1t , the draw is a cert it's GSM the rain has seen to that there simply isn't enough time for a result here .
i'm off to the beach when i return to my spanish villa which you draw laying mugs paid for i expect the draw to be 1.22 |
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am shocked at draw going from 1.39 to 1.3 this afternoon for certain rain arriving
as said could lay at present but can see it being 1.15ish at some point and being worth a look if we can get 2 1/2 days cricket in overcast conditions then still chance of result |
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some weird stuff going on in the SL v pak game..
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so am I steps hence the hedge out. I guess neither team will commit to forfeiting their first innings hence only chance is if minimal play by day 3 and no wickets
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plenty of time for a result. should get 250 overs days 3-5 imo. tomo is the big day weather wise.
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actually more like 230 days 3-5
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anyone saying there's a chance of forfeited innings is chatting absolute sh1t and ramping. it's happened once before and that was found to be a fix, no way it'd happen here at all
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ramping
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Agree. No way will innings be forfeited to contrive a result, especially as there will be some play on day 2 and 97 overs on day 3.
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