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By:
book
When: 07 Jun 12 13:42
and when it happened the once before,there was probably someone saying,oooh thats never happened beforeLaugh
By:
sunshine1
When: 07 Jun 12 13:44
Also might be worth factoring in the damage this afternoon's rain is likely to do to the outfield. I know it drains well, but it will certainly need too!
By:
BigMig
When: 07 Jun 12 13:47
Draw backers might panic a bit when they hear that Chanderpaul might not play
By:
nigelpm1
When: 07 Jun 12 13:50
hmm.  I'm certainly not ramping - just putting the argument out there.  However, I reckon it probably is a no go so back to weather watching.  Things have worsened so any movement back over 1.35 might tempt me in again.  Outfield should be ok with drainage but might delay action.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 07 Jun 12 13:55
it is a shame when someone comes in with a contrarian view that they immediately get held up as a "ramper".  More knowledge is useful and when in a position I'm always happy for someone to tell me why I'm wrong.  I don't have to believe it.
By:
mafeking
When: 07 Jun 12 13:58
hasn't the outfield been relaid since 2009 when day 1 started after tea despite sunshine all day ?
By:
nigelpm1
When: 07 Jun 12 13:59
yeah, huge developments have taken place however there's only so much rain a pitch can take no matter what drainage you've got
By:
nigelpm1
When: 07 Jun 12 14:02
http://www.meteox.co.uk/forecastloop.aspx?type=1

My predictions:

Thurs - No play
Fri - 15 overs
Sat - 60 overs
Sun - 75 overs
Mon - 40 overs

190 overs now in total.
By:
tonyf
When: 07 Jun 12 14:10
I support nigel, why shouldn't he offer a different view. Not ramping at all.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 07 Jun 12 14:11
ramping is what MM does - comes on and talks about free money blah blah blah
By:
Lix
When: 07 Jun 12 14:12
I'll have a go

Thur - Gawn
Fri  - 35 overs
Sat  - 80 overs
Sun  - 90 overs
mon  - 80 overs

285 overs left
By:
nigelpm1
When: 07 Jun 12 14:14
Lix - you know where Edgbaston is on that map don't you? ;-)  In fairness your guess is as good as mine.
By:
Lix
When: 07 Jun 12 14:16
yeah, my weather site doesnt look too bad. you'll see when your one gets updated Wink
By:
kingmax
When: 07 Jun 12 14:17
Laugh
By:
BigMig
When: 07 Jun 12 14:17
Well, I think anyone backing the draw on day one is brave.

How would you feel with England's seamers bowling at a Chanderpaul-less Windies batting line-up in helpful conditions?
By:
kingmax
When: 07 Jun 12 14:17
do they have dial up still?
By:
BigMig
When: 07 Jun 12 14:17
Backing at 1.30 on day one, that is
By:
kingmax
When: 07 Jun 12 14:18
Well, I think anyone backing the draw on day one is brave.

LaughLaugh
By:
scouceman
When: 07 Jun 12 14:18
My updated forcasts for tomorrow are looking worse....
By:
nigelpm1
When: 07 Jun 12 14:19
Lix - what site are you using?  My guess is the movement from 1.39 to 1.3 is mainly about tomorrow's forecast which has deteriorated.
By:
Lix
When: 07 Jun 12 14:19
BM- what's the latest we can play to?  7.00pm or 7.30pm?  light wont be a problem this time of year
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 07 Jun 12 14:20
Since the series has been decided is there any chance of captain's agreeing to make it a 1 innings game?
By:
BigMig
When: 07 Jun 12 14:20
Latest today would be 7.30pm (6pm plus one hour to make up time plus 30 mins to get in overs) - but must be playing at 6pm.

All subsequent days will be 98 overs - so 6.30pm plus 30 mins = 7pm
By:
nigelpm1
When: 07 Jun 12 14:21
CS - read back in the thread - debated to death - consensus is that it's very unlikely/not going to happen.
By:
Lix
When: 07 Jun 12 14:22
cheers. was hoping we could play to 7.30pm every day now to make up the time.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 07 Jun 12 14:23
I will read back...................................right now!
By:
sunshine1
When: 07 Jun 12 14:24
Looks like it will be very windy tomoz, so that should at least help to dry out the surface....unless it's raining of courseExcited
By:
BigMig
When: 07 Jun 12 14:27
Think they might be able to play until 8pm on the next four days.

This is how...

Scheduled play is 11-6.30pm to bowl 98 overs. But, if more than an hour is lost on the actual day, they can add 60 mins.

That makes the playing time 11-7.30pm. Plus an extra 30 mins to get in all the overs, so 8pm finish!
By:
nigelpm1
When: 07 Jun 12 14:29
Good find BigMig - I'll neeed to adjust my over prediction based on this.
By:
nigelpm1
When: 07 Jun 12 14:29
Surely they can start 30 mins earlier as well?
By:
BigMig
When: 07 Jun 12 14:30
Never start early in England - unlike other Test countries
By:
Greaves Machine
When: 07 Jun 12 14:30
Never start early in England
By:
nigelpm1
When: 07 Jun 12 14:31
Good ole Blighty - the one place (along with NZ of course) where it would be most helpful as well
By:
Lix
When: 07 Jun 12 14:32
well that would be nice BM!

They used to start at 10.45am didnt they?
By:
Greaves Machine
When: 07 Jun 12 14:33
Aren't the rules on close of play different on Day 5?
By:
mafeking
When: 07 Jun 12 14:33
10.30 when it was on channel 4. sky like to waffle on for half an hour first though
By:
BigMig
When: 07 Jun 12 14:33
Okay. Slight adjustment to earlier comments.

Because 30 mins has already been added to make up time from previous days, only another 30 mins (not an hour) can be added to make up for time lost on the actual day.

So on days 2-5, if it rains for more than hour, it will be 11-6.30, plus 30 mins, plus another 30 mins to get in the overs. Latest finish 7.30pm
By:
mafeking
When: 07 Jun 12 14:34
day 5 they'll bowl all 98 overs as long as it takes. there's no cut off point.
By:
BigMig
When: 07 Jun 12 14:34
Mafe - the 10.30 start was so they could fit in the Tour de France coverage in the early evening, I believe!
By:
Lix
When: 07 Jun 12 14:34
good point maf. will still be playable till 9pm you'd think this time of year if the skies are clear
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