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By:
clacton
When: 30 May 20 17:48
Got it. Just like I thought. They should show this every night, then the elderly would realise they are really the ones that have got to be careful. Less than 3,000 under 60.
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 20 17:56
I've said it quite often clacton but important to differentiate catching the virus and passing away from it. Someone who is following social distancing to the letter has very very low chance of catching it, vanishingly small. The reason why high risk groups are asked to shield is to have no risk (in theory).

The figures above suggest 1 in 1000 which was nearly a week ago, testing people some of whom will be interacting with people, and/or living with others who interact with people (outside household).

The latest data in nearly a week old, so right now on that trend it would be circa 1 in 1350.
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 20 17:58
The scientists canvassing against lifting any restrictions are being very disingenuous (imho)
By:
Angoose
When: 30 May 20 18:08
Is that because they are dangerous lefties ?
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 20 18:12
I don't know what their motivation is, but the data I've laid out in 5 minutes is very clear.

And your graph shows 13 deaths under 20, throughout the whole crisis, which will also include comorbidity. More would have died through RTA if nothing had happened. But some scientists have given the teaching unions an excuse, one it appears they are crying out for.
By:
impossible123
When: 30 May 20 18:17
^^
Are you a data scientist? 1:1350 is pretty low. I'd run the same figures with a friend who is.
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 20 18:19
I'm a qualified statistician, though it's not my current profession. I work in finance.
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 20 18:20
ONS have it as 1 in 1000 on their page also, my estimate is a straight forward extrapolation.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 30 May 20 18:23
A virus that we can have right but never know it

Unbelievable you guys believe it Laugh
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 30 May 20 18:24

May 30, 2020 -- 6:08PM, Angoose wrote:


Is that because they are dangerous lefties ?


No its because they wont be getting TV time soon

By:
eyeball
When: 30 May 20 18:25
As I've said enough times on here .

The virus affects the respiratory tract .

It will ease off end of May / beginning June .

The only people still dying will be the target groups .

The sun will increase vitamin D levels and the UVA will destroy the virus outside .

The virus will begin to infect people again in October / November .

The same target groups will die .

The target groups should increase their physical fitness . Eat healthily and maintain their vitamin D through the winter .

Not just for covid 19 . Take responsibility for your own life .
By:
impossible123
When: 30 May 20 18:27
Whatever, I'll not be letting my guard down - easing of lockdown or not - until I get concrete and data to back it up. There are some very stupid people at large in public esp in supermarkets.
By:
impossible123
When: 30 May 20 18:28
'eyeball', are you Prof van Tam?
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 30 May 20 18:29
The virus can't be killed through summer and then return ffs

Its dead its dead there's no coming back from that
By:
impossible123
When: 30 May 20 18:30
Will the Chinese release another batch?
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 20 18:30
My concern is for people who don't have the choice. Kids missing out on education that will impact their whole life. For no good reason that I can see other than political game playing.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 30 May 20 18:32
No because the Chinese never released it in the first place

If they are thinking about letting up with the lockdown for it to spread throughout summer then how does that get explained away?

Where would all the deaths be in summer? I thought this virus wasn't killed by heat? now the heat kills it but it comes back in winter?

What is this a fantasy TV virus?
By:
Cider
When: 30 May 20 18:33
Social development as well as education actually.
By:
eyeball
When: 30 May 20 18:46
It is a coronavirus that will circulate in the population . There are four of them that we class as the common cold . We will just have to live

with it , just like influenza or other respiratory tract viruses . If you are healthy you should be safe . They do mutate just like the flu but it

is just my hypothesis based on historical pandemics that there willn be a second wave in the winter. We will see .
By:
impossible123
When: 30 May 20 18:51
Covid-19 is or could be the beginning of a reality check for everyone - rich and powerful - if not already. A period of reflection, re-evaluation and acceptance of the shape of things to come in the future; the days of total freedom could be a thing of the past for a long while yet.

Identify them with a colour dye then maybe microwaving these barsteward into submission.
By:
lapsy pa
When: 30 May 20 18:56
You make sense to me Eyeball,i'm not sure anyone can be definite about a lot of it,the 8k figure is a puzzle,though now June,maybe extremely contagious,maybe social distancing being flouted? Just guessing but that is a big question.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 30 May 20 18:57
Yeah sounds great ruin the lives of millions for years over an illness that hardly affects 95% of them. Patience will soon wear out with out.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 30 May 20 19:00
8k figure might be because anyone with a loss of smell or taste is now getting diognosed with covid ffs
By:
impossible123
When: 30 May 20 19:05
Like in most predicaments sense and sensibility are the way forward.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 30 May 20 19:07
Removing freedom for an extended period is doesnt fit in with that and certainly wouldnt be tolerated.
By:
eyeball
When: 30 May 20 19:07
What we should be preparing is a virus with the transmission of measles and the killing power of Marburgs . It will come and if not enough work is

done by everyone it will be the end of civilisation as we know it . (NAP)
By:
impossible123
When: 30 May 20 19:08
What? No horse racing? You cannot be serious!
By:
Mexico
When: 30 May 20 19:09
Sont

The 8k figure may because the government sent out loads of tests to people forming a representative sample then found out how many positive & negative tests returned.
Then multiplied this % up to tge size of England population. So basically nothing to do with loss of smell or for tgat matter a cough or a high temperature.

It is a fairly standard principle, 1936 USA election was an early example of sampling.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 30 May 20 19:10
?
By:
lapsy pa
When: 30 May 20 19:32
Dotchinite,of course i am sympathetic for your point,i can't say you aren't wrong.
Someone who works in a fairly large office which is open through lockdown has said that fans were being used in it, how can something like that happen? it is blowing everyones air over the whole office. This is just bonkers.
If Eyeballs 18.07 post is nearer the mark in conjunction with his earlier post regarding a lapse in time of year what then?
Maybe the economy will never be the same? It may/may not die out like Spainish flu,hope i am wrong but it seems as if enough noise being made this is quite long term.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 30 May 20 19:47
lapsy if this here for the long term then we definitely need to get on with our lives and ignore it. A good place to start would be stopping these silly daily updates they do. Once a week is plenty.
The world gets madder and madder every day. Look at Scotlands new rules that say you can have a barbeque for up to 8 people in your garden but people have to bring their own plates and food and arent allowed to use your inside toilet. Total rubbish and just encouraging people to become even more paranoid. We really need to get a grip quickly and get this virus into context. It seems so many think its ebola.
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 30 May 20 20:19
darwinism in action at durdle door today
By:
1st time poster
When: 31 May 20 09:44
just listening to scientist saying theres evdcence of only one person catching virus in open air,most are inside,
all very good but who takes it inside and where do they get it from to take inside, not foooking rocket science to work out if more people are spending most of their time inside,most transmission will be inside,
most deaths in care homes becsase people took it inside them from outside, or his he saying its airbourn and came in through door,s ,window,s air con etc
By:
Angoose
When: 31 May 20 09:48
He was talking about one particular study in one particular environment. A very narrow view.
By:
1st time poster
When: 31 May 20 09:49
thank fooook ,he,s me thinking he was stating the bleeding fooooking obvious Laugh
By:
Angoose
When: 31 May 20 09:50
Dotch, there are more people who think that COVID-19 is the flu than those who think it is ebola Happy
By:
Angoose
When: 31 May 20 09:53
Raab backing up Johnson's claim that there has been a world beating test and trace system up and running since Thursday Cry
By:
Angoose
When: 31 May 20 09:57
They can't even count how many people have been tested for more than a week.
World beating my @rse Angry
By:
lapsy pa
When: 31 May 20 12:46
Just a couple of notes,

A German was tested positive after landing on 1st flight to China, no symptons,the mandatory test found he is an asymtomatic carrier.

Arlene Foster reckons track and tracing wil be in place for 2+ years, looks like the long haul.
By:
impossible123
When: 31 May 20 12:58
I think the scary bit is the asymptomatic carriers of the virus could dwarf the infected ones thus the only fail-safe method is testing everyone and not just those with the disease or symptoms. These carriers could be more deadly as they are invisible esp working within the NHS and in hospitals or care homes.
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