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By:
Angoose
When: 26 May 20 16:55
When you thrive by playing to the angry mob, don’t be surprised when the angry mob later become angry with you.
This is the story of populism over and over again throughout history.
By:
Cider
When: 26 May 20 16:59
There's a couple of things really. The over analysis of what he did is just that. Whether you think you would have done the same, or think he should have taken a less preferable option to set a good example is not really relevant. He answers to the police in regard to the law and the PM in regard to his job. It's not up to the mob, opponents or the media to decide he should lose his job.
By:
nineteen points
When: 26 May 20 17:00
the option wasnt there until he broke the rules then they reworded it..same as the stay at home slogan.it changed to stay alert once his story got out.
By:
Angoose
When: 26 May 20 17:01
I hope he stays in his role. He’s doing a fantastic job in harming the Tory party.
By:
Cider
When: 26 May 20 17:02
My genuine opinion is that the journey to Durham is fine, the 30 mile trip to Barnard Castle is much less justifiable. However his explanation is good enough for his employer.
By:
1st time poster
When: 26 May 20 17:03
when you get to clever for your own good over the blog,the great internet,stats man,not knowing you could be found out for editing an article on line, one of his young fanboy Cambridge graduates will be getting their nuts kicked in for that school boy error,it makes him look a total fool
By:
Angoose
When: 26 May 20 17:03
Who is his employer ?
By:
aaronh
When: 26 May 20 17:05

May 26, 2020 -- 5:03PM, 1st time poster wrote:


when you get to clever for your own good over the blog,the great internet,stats man,not knowing you could be found out for editing an article on line, one of his young fanboy Cambridge graduates will be getting their nuts kicked in for that school boy error,it makes him look a total fool


the weird geniuses who could have told him about this all got fired for being weird eugenics obsessed types

By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 May 20 17:05
Boris did well to show up Guardian lies yesterday in the press conference.

The media have a cheek to criticise others when they ignore social distancing rules and make stuff up for political reasons in the middle of crisis.
By:
elisjohn
When: 26 May 20 17:07
new suppliers contracts, when its too late
By:
1st time poster
When: 26 May 20 17:07
they used their instinct in the process of doing their essential work as aadvised to by someone called dom cummings LaughLaugh
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 May 20 17:08
Police spoke to Dominic Cummings about breaching the government’s lockdown rules after he was seen in Durham, 264 miles from his London home, despite having had symptoms of coronavirus, the Guardian can reveal.

Officers approached Boris Johnson’s key adviser days after he was seen rushing out of Downing Street when the prime minister tested positive for the virus at the end of March, a joint investigation by the Guardian and the Mirror has found. There are now calls for his resignation.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/22/dominic-cummings-durham-trip-coronavirus-lockdown

^

A made up story?
By:
Angoose
When: 26 May 20 17:14
“Day in, day out for 10 days he lay doggo with a high fever and spasms,” she said.
How do you drive to hospital when you are in bed doggo ?
By:
Angoose
When: 26 May 20 17:15
Cummings was given an opportunity to comment on the fine points of the article.
He declined to do so, but later confirmed that it was substantially accurate.
By:
1st time poster
When: 26 May 20 17:16
HANDJOB STUMPED BY A VICAR LaughLaughLaugh,
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 May 20 17:17
It was made up. Police did not speak to him.

Guardian just trying to undermine the government in a crisis for political reasons.

Horrid outfit.
By:
Angoose
When: 26 May 20 17:21
Spoke to his father though, didn’t they.
And Cummings was given the opportunity to correct the error but chose not to.
Then admitted that it would have been better had he provided a full account much earlier.

Cake and eat it.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 May 20 17:21
A lie printed by a newspaper.

Stop making excuses for them Angoose.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 26 May 20 17:22
IT  I'm equally interested in your appraisal of The New Statesman, particularly Mary's account of her family's recent travails.

Seeing as you value journalistic integrity so highly.
By:
aaronh
When: 26 May 20 17:22
so DC was unapologetic and had no regrets, but still refuses to attack clear lies which would be consistent with his line of behaviour. Is the claim being made?
By:
1st time poster
When: 26 May 20 17:23
confirmed by police at 1st then ,they chaged their story,who no,s why
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 May 20 17:23
Whataboutery from PP there.

If New Statesman printed lies I would have no problem saying it was wrong.

Why do people find it so hard to condemn the Guardian?
By:
aaronh
When: 26 May 20 17:24
how do people who supported Brexit, this Tory government etc have the temerity to get mad about media lies
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 26 May 20 17:28
Are you saying Mary's report didn't contain lies. The bit about him laying 'doggo' in bed at the same as he said he was driving to hospital.

Clearly one of them is lying.

Is it the right wing press or your favourite millionaire?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 May 20 17:28

May 26, 2020 -- 5:28PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:


Are you saying Mary's report didn't contain lies. The bit about him laying 'doggo' in bed at the same as he said he was driving to hospital.Clearly one of them is lying.Is it the right wing press or your favourite millionaire?


Whataboutery from PP there.

If New Statesman printed lies I would have no problem saying it was wrong.

Why do people find it so hard to condemn the Guardian?

By:
aaronh
When: 26 May 20 17:35
people probably don't think your crusade for press morality and truth telling is in line with your previous behaviour, IT
By:
Cider
When: 26 May 20 17:35
SpAds serve the minister who appointed them or No.10 directly if they are working there. All SpAds are expected to serve the prime minister and the rest of government beyond their department.

.https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/special-advisers
By:
Angoose
When: 26 May 20 17:36
They printed what they believed was an accurate version of events.
They then gave the subject of the article an opportunity to comment and correct any inaccuracies.

He chose not to make use of this opportunity.

However, he later conceded that the article was substantially accurate and that he regretted not taking the opportunity granted to him to provide a fuller picture at the earliest opportunity.
By:
Angoose
When: 26 May 20 17:37

May 26, 2020 -- 5:35PM, Cider wrote:


SpAds serve the minister who appointed them or No.10 directly if they are working there. All SpAds are expected to serve the prime minister and the rest of government beyond their department..https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainers/special-advisers


Who are they employed for, what does it say in their contract of employment?

By:
Angoose
When: 26 May 20 17:38
Employed by ....
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 May 20 17:38

May 26, 2020 -- 5:36PM, Angoose wrote:


They printed what they believed was an accurate version of events.They then gave the subject of the article an opportunity to comment and correct any inaccuracies.He chose not to make use of this opportunity.However, he later conceded that the article was substantially accurate and that he regretted not taking the opportunity granted to him to provide a fuller picture at the earliest opportunity.


Papers cannot just make stuff up and print it and then retract if they wrong.

They should check stuff is correct before printing surely?

Why do you struggle so hard to condemn the Guardian lie Angoose?

By:
Cider
When: 26 May 20 17:39
Can't say I've read a SpAd contract but it's clear #10 does the hiring and firing when they are appointed by #10.
By:
Angoose
When: 26 May 20 17:42
They are civil servants, government employees, paid out of taxes imposed on the public.
Like the government, their roles exist to serve the general public.
By:
Cider
When: 26 May 20 17:45
So in your judgement, who decides whether DC should face a disciplinary, or indeed summary dismissal?
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 26 May 20 17:53
DC did not break the rules or get fined or even get spoken to by the police.

Should everyone who did actually break the law and was fined be sacked from their jobs?
By:
winningthought
When: 26 May 20 17:59
Should everyone who did actually break the law and was fined be sacked from their jobs?

No. Only the little people. The elites deny any criminal wrongdoing anyway, and use the peoples money to pay any fines. It's been de rigour since 2008 or didn't you get the memo?
By:
Cider
When: 26 May 20 18:03
So in your judgement, who decides whether DC should face a disciplinary, or indeed summary dismissal?.....
By:
winningthought
When: 26 May 20 18:05
This Government passed a very draconian Coronavirus bill, without any vote in the Commons and will be LAW until for TWO YEARS. This has empowered the police to get out on the streets and into the little peoples faces and fine them for far less than what Cummings has done. Same old, same old, one rule of the plebs another for the new elites.
By:
winningthought
When: 26 May 20 18:07
So in your judgement, who decides whether DC should face a disciplinary, or indeed summary dismissal

Haven't we decided the best way to deal with unelected officials is to have a referendum?
By:
winningthought
When: 26 May 20 18:09
Unelected officials are bad, unless they are my unelected official.
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