Chit Chat
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Concept of reality. It's eminently easier from a keyboard.
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Indeed Cider,easier from a keyboard to call someone a k hunt because he asked about 10k unexplained deaths.
It isn't a concept of reality at all to ask HOW. |
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Lol removing the comparison graphs ffs,how do they keep getting away with stuff all the time they are so corrupt,just when we were oulling clear at the top as well..no doubt if we had been bottom we wouldv'e been waffling constantly about it..Incredible just pretending it never existed..
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So you never read it ?
You have no understanding of influenza . You have no understanding of coronaviruses . You don't even know the real number of care homes in the UK . All you know is what you are told . If the government told everyone to eat pickled rat turd in aspic you'd tell everyone it was a great idea . Try doing a little research to back up your insolent ramblings . |
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Care homes are not well run
Most private homes are charging residents in excess of a £1000 a week. Then they complain the Goverment hasn’t provided them with PPE ....ludicrous |
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Anyway all this chat....the premise of the thread is that Starmer is a c o c k ......surely no one can disagree with that
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Do you MrBaloon?
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Do you challenge any of the Boris Derangement Syndrome threads and comments as 'insolent'? Or it's acceptable as long as it's on your side of the argument?
sure is cute when posters who make hysterical comments about even the most boring and dull types of liberalism and centrism can call others deranged |
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Rightwing fanatics,Starmer leftwing ffs,laughable..
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If the government told everyone to eat pickled rat turd in aspic you'd tell everyone it was a great idea . Try
doing a little research to back up your insolent ramblings . Very funny! In defence of some of ciders pathetic defence attempts the increased deaths in care homes did not come just from Hospitals sending old people with covid to Care Homes to keep them off the register but also because there are plenty of agency care workers transporting the disease from care Home to Care Home. I would like to ask cider though what The Leader of Her Majesty's Most Loyal Opposition is supposed to to do? |
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i'd like to see a little more charisma - well any, tbph. We all know he earned his silks; & was DPP, he will be a thorn in Bozos side, but being a smart arse & portraying yerself as one, are 2 different things in the House. Rumpole across the way can hide his talent with a booming voice & a quip or three. Starmer needs to lighten up; just a touch
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I’d like to see Starmer come up with a workable solution to the public transport system....he can work with his union friends and find a workable solution.
The Unions are inevitably going to make using transport more difficult until all there employees have full PPE, gold plated armour |
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Why would you want Starmer to have any charisma?
The Buffoon in Chief has plenty of charisma even I as a detractor would acknowledge that. Do you want your bank manager to have charisma? Or your accountant or importantly your Doctor! Would you like your Chief Scientific Officer to have plenty of charisma and pull a married bird? Or maybe do you think it might be good if he just did a good job of exposing the Governments short comings? |
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With apologies to Patrick Vallance of course
 not him, I meant shagger Neil. |
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Mr Baboon 05.21 "I would like to see Starmer come up with a workable solution to public transpot".
Totally agree,a child could make a better job than what is currently in practice. Doris's solution seems to be as pre lockdown, pack them in again to buses,trains and tubes,nothing has changed,many no masks, social distancing not applied,stay alert me hole. |
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Starmer may not have charisma but his interrogation of Johnson destroys any semblance of credibility that this mistake of a PM pretends to have
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Starmer the scumbag who gave the hateful anti white racist Naz Shah a promotion in his first week, traitor to this country but of course he is the leader of the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC PARTY OF BRITAIN (LABOUR)
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^ What a load of old guff
Adress the questions on the thread. 1/ Why won't Boris Johnson account for 10k unexplained deaths? 2/ Why has the death graph comparison among countries suddenly disappeared? 3 Baboons point, Why is the public transport system such a mess with little or no adherence to goverment coronavirus measures? |
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1. Explain unexplained deaths. Boris is good but he's not that good
 2. As it is no longer useful, or relevant as deaths in all countries are plateauing as I already explained. They did not stop using the graph as soon as declared deaths were highest in the UK within europe. It was a few days later, coinciding with the change in messaging and direction. 3. Who is in charge of transport systems? Clue 1, it's not the government. |
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Keir Starmer
I want to probe a little further the figures that the Prime Minister has given us. The Office for National Statistics records the average number of deaths in care homes each month. For the past five years, the average for April has been just over 8,000. This year, the number of deaths in care homes in April was a staggering 26,000. That is three times the average and an additional 18,000 deaths. Using the Government’s figures, only 8,000 are recorded as covid deaths, leaving 10,000 additional and unexplained care home deaths this April. I know that the Government must have looked into that, so can the Prime Minister give us the Government’s view on those unexplained deaths? The Prime Minister The coronavirus is an appalling disease which afflicts some groups far more than others—I think the whole country understands that—in particular the elderly, and the right hon. and learned Gentleman is right to draw attention, as I have said, to the tragedy that has been taking place in care homes. The ONS is responsible for producing its data, and the Government have also produced data which shows not only that there has been, as I say, a terrible epidemic in care homes, but that since the care homes action plan began we are seeing an appreciable and substantial reduction not just in the number of outbreaks, but in the number of deaths. I stress to the House and to the country that solving the problem in care homes is going to be absolutely critical—getting the R down not just in care homes, but across the country—to our ability to move forward as a nation with the stepped programme that I announced on Sunday. We must fix it, and we will. It appears that government doesn't have the view that was the thrust of the question. Nor, does it appear, that the government is actively studying the data in order to arrive at a view. If it was, surely the PM would have taken the opportunity to inform the nation of the ongoing inquiry in to the unexplained excess deaths. Or is it that the PM hadn't done his homework, and is simply unaware of the work that is going on to better understand the underlying causes ? |
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I will fix your replies there Cider as they were a bit too glib,no need to thank me.
1/ Boris is bad but he is actually worse 2/ The graph is very useful until it shows how progressively worse the UK is doing. 3/ Who are making the rules for coronavirus pandemic measures in transport, clue it isn't the transport companies. |
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"3. Who is in charge of transport systems? Clue 1, it's not the government."
Cider, you said this earlier, are you still certain that is correct? |
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Of course it is. Saddiq Khan cut TfL services and the government were powerless to stop him. In simplistic terms, government runs the capital infrastructure, laws etc and the day to day running is local. Just like a council.
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Of course. They aren't in charge of how many trains run, or controlling the amount of people allowed on a platform, or marking off seats on a train, or supplying appropriate PPE to staff.
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One thing this crisis has highlighted is that at least 30% of the adult population is apparently totally incapable of thinking for themselves, or demonstrating any kind of personal responsibility.
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But you agree that the government are in charge of transport?
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Not at the operational level.
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now that is why i love this forum; two opinions on my post from peeps with differing political views than mine. One concise & sensible from aaronh - who got it, & quite the opposite from WD, who palpably did not. Don't ye just love Chitty Chatty
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No Cider 10.23, no sniping or macabre excitment,that in itself is quite a nasty deflection tactic.
All goes back to your opening post when you called the opposition leader a k hunt for asking questions in parliament to a goverment that has made a complete and utter balls of the pandemic, and what is worse you well know that they made a shambles,you are pitiful in your defense of what the tory goverment is in the process of doing to the UK and worse for colluding with it. |
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What's point in Johnson and tories querying his poor performance and blustering that he didn't lie when he clearly did...
Will he turn up in a fridge next week, and the week after... Testiculate The act of Johnson waving his arms around whilst talking bollocks |
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You'd think tories on here would have gotten used by now to that feeling of hope and excitement in their new leader turning to disappointment and embarassment when they're shown up as useless.
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