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HERD IMMUNITY IS THE ONLY SOLUTION?
HERD IMMUNITY IS THE ONLY SOLUTION?
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That's a nice stir of the pot
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Isn't getting the death rate and new case load way down and working from there an alternative?
That page 22 is totally at odds with what 1sttimeposter maintains( i'm sure he knows),another fine in idealogy but at odds with what they are actually putting into practice, it seems Wales Scotland and NI are near enough on top of it,England will undo their good work. |
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What would you do goose - if you were running things right now in the UK?
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Test track and trace
It works Wear a mask It works Just because government can't be bothered to do the right thing doesn't mean there isn't better than being governed by a clown Just look at new Zealand, South africa |
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Buy more ppe for our front line staff, set up home production if required
They've only had 12 weeks to get it sorted Shambolic from the clown |
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So comparing Sweden to Italy/UK/Spain/Belgium is not correct but because totally different circumstances etc
But comparing UK to New Zealand/South Africa is quite valid |
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Everybody is playing that game.
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Outsourcing and cuts have been catastrophic to nhs
and sadly coming home to roost when system is tested. |
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YHTL you are living in the past.
Not interested in words like 'had 12 weeks' or look at an African country where the numbers of high risk pensioners is very low or looking at an Island at the end of the world that has closed it borders indefinitely. I am interested in what people would do in the UK right now where 5m-10m have already had/have the virus and it is loose. You cannot unboil an egg. What do we do now? Particularly with a global city like London. In my view we cannot take a 'gap year', bury our heads in the sand and hope someone else finds a vaccine. |
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Happy to compare UK to Sweden and New Zealand and South africa
New zealand South africa .. ... ... Sweden uk usa |
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Happy to compare UK to Sweden and New Zealand and South africa
New zealand South africa .. ... ... Sweden uk usa |
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He's asking what would we do different
Answer given with example I know you don't enjoy reasoned debate, espe ially when it shows tories in such bad light Just do a bit of whataboutery and hope nobody notices the paucity of your argument Maybe you can fi d an old account to back you up... |
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Why will test track and trace not work
Why will wearing a mask not work Why don't you care about other countries that show UK in such a bad light by comparison |
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Saying the UK has done so much worse than New Zealand is like saying The Isle of Wight has handled it so much better than London.
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No it's not because they have same government whereas UK does not have
Same government as new zealand |
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The earlier "alternative" of getting new cases way down not answered,nearly everyone else is doing it,the rest of the UK at odds, but of course that "alternative" isn't what you want to hear.
You want the economy fixed asap while dodging the virus yourself and sod everyone else. |
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You need to protect your citizens not just those in a small island off its coast
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"Parliament must set a national example of how business can continue in this new normal; and it must move, in step with public health guidance, to get back to business as part of this next step, including a move towards further physical proceedings in the House of Commons." p.29
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When there's 600 folk packed into house of commons I will assume it's safe to return to work
Until then STAY HOME PROTECT THE NHS WEAR A MASK KEEP ALERT TO GOVERNMENT LIES |
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12 May 20 18:28 Joined: 06 Jul 10 | Topic/replies: 8,069 | Blogger: ----you-have-to-laugh---'s blog Why will test track and trace not work Too many people already infected. Cannot test fast enough. Civil liberties do not allow it. Not enough people will download app. If we want to survive economically we have to let people flow in and out of the country. Eventually infections go back up (unless many people cannot actually catch the virus and it fizzes out at 5-20% of population.) Why will wearing a mask not work What do you mean 'work'? It might slow the spread a bit but is not a game changer. Why don't you care about other countries that show UK in such a bad light by comparison Different demographics, non-global and in the case of New Zealand a country of 4m people that has food sources and has decided to cut itself off from the rest world indefinitely. That will not work for the UK. |
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Well swerved, you need to get alert
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Why do people fly to New Zealand ?
Tourism. What is the ratio of people arriving in the UK for tourism compared to NZ ? It is 10:1 What is the ratio for people flying in for business trips, sports events, stopovers on the way to somewhere else ? 50:1 ? 100:1 ? New Zealand was always likely to be at the bottom of the lists for this. |
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Why can't the tories test fast enough?
A..... 10 years of tory cuts B..... Incompetence C...... Both |
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wait til ramadamadingdingdong finishes
You ain't seen nothing yet |
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Lol
Tobermory That's irrelevant, whataboutery at its worst |
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"This could be based on the New Zealand model of household "bubbles" where a single "bubble" is the people you live with.31 As in New Zealand, the rationale behind keeping household groups small is to limit the number of social contacts people have and, in particular, to limit the risk of inter-household transmissions." p.31
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Goose not putting his neck on the line saying what he would do.
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It's typical that pro lockdown people conclude a country that follows their preferred measures does well because they took such measures, and no other reason is considered.
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Tobes produces yet more whataboutery without joining the debate
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Insider trader swerving more and more as yet another comical idea is shown up
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The Tories ‘austerity’ was merely a reduction in borrowing. HTH etc...
Borrowing will now treble at least. Tax rises and misery to come for our kids. Boris should have ignored the hapless scientists. |
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not sure what ist t p, is supposed to be maintaining but he,s quoting the front page of the local paper
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Any suggestion will help him angoose
His bosses are desperate for any ideas to get Them out of this mess they have made |
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He just wants more opportunities to shoot down any ideas that don't agree with his.
I'm currently reading the 60 page government document. It's well put together, but is part manifesto and part public inquiry mitigation. Bet you that Johnson will not have read it cover to cover. |
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Mrs has got it.
He can't shoot anything down hence 3 threads a day About the same failed plan STAY ALERT TO TORY SPAM |
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Mrs has got the document not corona virus, btw
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Phew, that's a relief.
More evidence of the intention to intervene on a localised basis. Joint Biosecurity Centre (JBC) The Centre will also have a response function that will advise on the overall prevalence of COVID-19 to help inform decisions to ease restrictions in a safe way. It will identify specific actions to address local spikes in infections, in partnership with local agencies – for example, advising Ministers, businesses and local partners to close schools or workplaces where infection rates have spiked, to reduce risk of further infection locally. p.37/38 |