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By:
casemoney
When: 10 May 20 20:30
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By:
casemoney
When: 10 May 20 20:31
Masses will be back on the Street , if the Wheels fall off G luck with another LOCKDOWN ..
By:
geordie1956
When: 10 May 20 20:33
R rate to shoot back up within next few weeks ... Nap!
By:
ericster
When: 10 May 20 20:33
Jeez! What's to not understand? Go out more, go to work, but just THINK eh? Be aware of the situation and other people.Cry
By:
ericster
When: 10 May 20 20:35
They're playing it by ear and yes, geordie, you might well be right. We shall see, and react accordingly.
By:
thegiggilo
When: 10 May 20 20:38
geordie1956 10 May 20 19:33 
R rate to shoot back up within next few weeks ... Nap!

Takes three weeks for the lag to play out and then year 1 and reception classes and year 6 will already have been in school,absolute abortion as per..
By:
lapsy pa
When: 10 May 20 20:40
Certainly a gaffe,the state of the Union is in question,you would have to think the other 3 countries are trying to do their best for their citizens and are highly questionable of Westminsters strategy.

Quite possibly the "R" is better in the 3 than in England where their best guess is a huge fluctuation.
By:
elisjohn
When: 10 May 20 20:41
oh kids could be in school in july, doesnt this thick government/ adviseres realise theyre on holidays middle of july, so whats the point.
By:
lurka
When: 10 May 20 20:42
I cannot believe the amount of people in the UK who support this clown. I can understand how Trump has support in the US but not this guy. There is literally nothing he has done impressively throughout this crisis.
By:
1st time poster
When: 10 May 20 20:42
you all heard something I didn't hear,regards work nothing was said that wasn't said 7 weeks ago
if you wernt at work last week,nothing was said tonight which would make you go tomorrow, unless your companies contacted you in last hour,

I suppose it just shows what a confusion shoite show,his speech was
By:
Cider
When: 10 May 20 20:44

May 10, 2020 -- 8:40PM, lapsy pa wrote:


Certainly a gaffe,the state of the Union is in question,you would have to think the other 3 countries are trying to do their best for their citizens and are highly questionable of Westminsters strategy.Quite possibly the "R" is better in the 3 than in England where their best guess is a huge fluctuation.


What do you feel is the motive of Westminster, if not the best for its citizens?

By:
politicspunter
When: 10 May 20 20:45

May 10, 2020 -- 8:44PM, Cider wrote:


May 10, 2020 --  7:40PM, lapsy pa wrote:Certainly a gaffe,the state of the Union is in question,you would have to think the other 3 countries are trying to do their best for their citizens and are highly questionable of Westminsters strategy.Quite possibly the "R" is better in the 3 than in England where their best guess is a huge fluctuation.What do you feel is the motive of Westminster, if not the best for its citizens?


It's not Westminster, it's England.

By:
Injera
When: 10 May 20 20:45
No Officer, I won’t shoot. They might shoot back.

When will this country grow a pair?!
By:
Cider
When: 10 May 20 20:46

May 10, 2020 -- 8:45PM, politicspunter wrote:


May 10, 2020 --  7:44PM, Cider wrote:May 10, 2020 --  7:40PM, lapsy pa wrote:Certainly a gaffe,the state of the Union is in question,you would have to think the other 3 countries are trying to do their best for their citizens and are highly questionable of Westminsters strategy.Quite possibly the "R" is better in the 3 than in England where their best guess is a huge fluctuation.What do you feel is the motive of Westminster, if not the best for its citizens?It's not Westminster, it's England.


Thanks but I simply repeated lapsy pa's phrase from his post.

By:
politicspunter
When: 10 May 20 20:47
Fair enough.
By:
politicspunter
When: 10 May 20 20:48
But I think it's pretty clear what papsy la meant.
By:
Cider
When: 10 May 20 20:51
You or we can debate what the best actually is for citizens lapsy pa, not everyone will see that the same. I fail to see why any leader wouldn't take the approach that feels is not best, unless there's an election looming. Since the UK has nearly five years remaining in the term just elected, it's not a consideration as it may be for Trump, for example.
By:
casemoney
When: 10 May 20 20:53
Cider he has Given the Impression every one can head out and About,all go back to work

Most Employers will not be Set up SD wise for a return , How do people actually go to work

London 95% use Public Transport A high proportion do not Live in London Most services are

Restricted , as is Nationwide , Parts of the country are a week or two behind other Parts regarding

Infection Rate ,Every country should be the same Aim for some sort of Return in June , its Complete madness , We have different rules being followed by 3/4 Nations Pmsfl ......
By:
lapsy pa
When: 10 May 20 20:53
Why is it so different Cider than the other 3 countries Cider? i am not replying with another question only in part but it seems to me the other 3 are putting their citizens health 1st whereas westminister/England are putting the economy 1st.
By:
politicspunter
When: 10 May 20 20:54

May 10, 2020 -- 8:51PM, Cider wrote:


You or we can debate what the best actually is for citizens lapsy pa, not everyone will see that the same. I fail to see why any leader wouldn't take the approach that feels is not best, unless there's an election looming. Since the UK has nearly five years remaining in the term just elected, it's not a consideration as it may be for Trump, for example.


Boris must feel it's best for England but why didn't he at least consult with the other nations of the UK of which (allegedly) he is the elected prime minister? Apparently the first some of them knew anything about it is when they read the morning papers.

By:
lurka
When: 10 May 20 20:55

May 10, 2020 -- 8:51PM, Cider wrote:


You or we can debate what the best actually is for citizens lapsy pa, not everyone will see that the same. I fail to see why any leader wouldn't take the approach that feels is not best, unless there's an election looming. Since the UK has nearly five years remaining in the term just elected, it's not a consideration as it may be for Trump, for example.


So you think Boris took the best approach in the beginning when he told the nation he went around shaking hands with people in hospitals?

The guy is a buffoon, who has been unimpressive at every stage of this crisis. Why anyone would trust, at this stage, that what he feels is best is what is actually for the best is beyond me.

By:
woundedknee
When: 10 May 20 20:56
do you really think ha makes the decisions  LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 10 May 20 20:57
It is all about the R rate but a week ago i did not know anything about the R rate.
By:
sofiakenny
When: 10 May 20 20:58
Course not..Cummings does that.
By:
Cider
When: 10 May 20 20:59

May 10, 2020 -- 8:54PM, politicspunter wrote:


May 10, 2020 --  7:51PM, Cider wrote:You or we can debate what the best actually is for citizens lapsy pa, not everyone will see that the same. I fail to see why any leader wouldn't take the approach that feels is not best, unless there's an election looming. Since the UK has nearly five years remaining in the term just elected, it's not a consideration as it may be for Trump, for example.Boris must feel it's best for England but why didn't he at least consult with the other nations of the UK of which (allegedly) he is the elected prime minister? Apparently the first some of them knew anything about it is when they read the morning papers.


He chaired COBRA early this afternoon as I understand it. There was no need for any devolved nations to have a press conference today, since the PM was addressing the UK.

By:
casemoney
When: 10 May 20 20:59
He needs to get fooking back on to-morrow Night and Sort it out  , Nonsense as it is, people waiting all weekend to hear that shyte ...

The English will barred from Wales Scots and Norn Laugh

Never mind Quaratine for C'nts coming in Laugh
By:
casemoney
When: 10 May 20 21:00
To morrow evenings Briefing , Will he Turn up ?? Laugh
By:
Cider
When: 10 May 20 21:01

May 10, 2020 -- 8:55PM, lurka wrote:


May 10, 2020 --  7:51PM, Cider wrote:You or we can debate what the best actually is for citizens lapsy pa, not everyone will see that the same. I fail to see why any leader wouldn't take the approach that feels is not best, unless there's an election looming. Since the UK has nearly five years remaining in the term just elected, it's not a consideration as it may be for Trump, for example.So you think Boris took the best approach in the beginning when he told the nation he went around shaking hands with people in hospitals?The guy is a buffoon, who has been unimpressive at every stage of this crisis. Why anyone would trust, at this stage, that what he feels is best is what is actually for the best is beyond me.


What happened in early March doesn't influence measures now. As I said, whether it is or not people can and will debate, it's very hard to argue that it's not the intention imv.

By:
casemoney
When: 10 May 20 21:02
Starmer actually Looked astounded Laugh
By:
politicspunter
When: 10 May 20 21:03

May 10, 2020 -- 8:59PM, Cider wrote:


May 10, 2020 --  7:54PM, politicspunter wrote:May 10, 2020 --  7:51PM, Cider wrote:You or we can debate what the best actually is for citizens lapsy pa, not everyone will see that the same. I fail to see why any leader wouldn't take the approach that feels is not best, unless there's an election looming. Since the UK has nearly five years remaining in the term just elected, it's not a consideration as it may be for Trump, for example.Boris must feel it's best for England but why didn't he at least consult with the other nations of the UK of which (allegedly) he is the elected prime minister? Apparently the first some of them knew anything about it is when they read the morning papers.He chaired COBRA early this afternoon as I understand it. There was no need for any devolved nations to have a press conference today, since the PM was addressing the UK.


The Prime Minister was addressing England only, not the UK.

By:
casemoney
When: 10 May 20 21:05
I have heard some Bollicks in my life time , But that has taken the Biscuit TBH ........

The Papers will go into Melt Down Laugh
By:
Cider
When: 10 May 20 21:08
Prime Ministerial Statement
Watch now
A Ministerial Broadcast from the Prime Minister
Prime Ministerial Statement
An update from the prime minister on the coronavirus epidemic.

Today
19:00
BBC ONE, BBC SCOTLAND & BBC NEWS CHANNEL
By:
1st time poster
When: 10 May 20 21:08
if furloughs in place till end of may,why didn't he just set out a plan for a return to work on june 1st,no employer getting furlough is going to rush back before then anyway,
I honestly don't believe any of the return to work mantra was aimed at those currently on furlough but doris couldn't explain it

return to work was related to those who could have been there for last 6 weeks
By:
lapsy pa
When: 10 May 20 21:08
What happened in early March was the whole crux of now and the near future,an earlier lockdown and no one would be batting an eye with tonights spiel.

21st of March the tube was rammed,get your bike out now, it must have been bad on that tube , a great spreader of covid, however no one gave a sheet then, not Boris even then clinging to a limpy economy.
By:
Cider
When: 10 May 20 21:09

May 10, 2020 -- 9:08PM, 1st time poster wrote:


if furloughs in place till end of may,why didn't he just set out a plan for a return to work on june 1st,no employer getting furlough is going to rush back before then anyway,I honestly don't believe any of the return to work mantra was aimed at those currently on furlough but doris couldn't explain itreturn to work was related to those who could have been there for last 6 weeks


Furlough is confirmed until the end of June.

By:
1st time poster
When: 10 May 20 21:11
is that to cover mays wages
By:
politicspunter
When: 10 May 20 21:12

May 10, 2020 -- 9:08PM, Cider wrote:


Prime Ministerial StatementWatch nowA Ministerial Broadcast from the Prime MinisterPrime Ministerial StatementAn update from the prime minister on the coronavirus epidemic.Today19:00BBC ONE, BBC SCOTLAND & BBC NEWS CHANNEL


Well, if that was broadcast outside of England, that could cause a nightmare scenario where folks don't have a clue where they stand.

By:
Cider
When: 10 May 20 21:12
No it was already extended to June because of the redundancy consultation lead time.

The work message was primarily aimed at the businesses who shut down and furloughed people when they weren't required to.
By:
lurka
When: 10 May 20 21:14
If you look at Germany, Spain, Italy they all had steady drops in daily new case numbers for 4-5 weeks before releasing restrictions. I know the UK has increased testing but they all have.

The US and the UK are still at the peak of their numbers of infections with no noticeable decline trend at all, never mind for weeks.

Can only see this ending badly and no basis to think this is in people's best interests. A political decision rather than a scientific one imo, but time will tell. Perhaps they want more infections to protect against a second wave in Winter or as part of a herd immunity strategy but there is no way this is beneficial for public health in the short term imo.
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