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By:
politicspunter
When: 09 May 20 11:35

May 9, 2020 -- 11:26AM, 1st time poster wrote:


greatest prime minister in labours history,


Yep, best part time Labour Prime Minister ever.

By:
Get me a drink
When: 09 May 20 11:35
I laugh till it hurts at the deliberately farcical way the government handles this covid project
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 May 20 11:36
Also the logistics of sorting out a practical and effective quarantine will take time.
By:
politicspunter
When: 09 May 20 11:38

May 9, 2020 -- 11:36AM, CLYDEBANK29 wrote:


Also the logistics of sorting out a practical and effective quarantine will take time.


Not at all, just free all our prisoners as we have been doing and fill their cells with folks in quarantine.

By:
Racingqueen
When: 09 May 20 11:38
lockdown is only as good as the weakest nations response. This virus has seeded everywhere on earth ffs

Lockdown is literally about as useful as playing snooker with a rope.

Has any of the supposed journalists asked these w*nk politicians what the time line and data points are that need to be met in order to get the world going again.
There is none. They are making it up as they go along.

Happy to see world economies bankrupted so they can pretend some make believe vaccine will be created in 12 months despite no coronavirus vaccine having never been created in human history ffs
By:
impossible123
When: 09 May 20 11:40
If there's a curfew now then the time factor is irrelevant. But, a relaxation of lockdwon has been mooted, and could be as soon as this coming monday. I've no doubt any potential arrival into the UK will probably expedite their entry in order to avoid a 14-day quarantine either at the place of abode or a hotel near port of entry.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 May 20 11:40
So no quarantine by government through times of extreme danger with massive multiple infections from outside the UK imported to add to the contagion spread by tory mps and their families.

Then as other countries get their virus infection down... We in the uk will begin to ask them to quarentine



It really is staggering that not more people are mocking us for this shambles we elected.
By:
impossible123
When: 09 May 20 11:41
Logistics? Logistics would have been discussed in detail and implementation asap if necessary.
By:
Angoose
When: 09 May 20 11:42
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 09 May 20 11:43
They can locate people via their mobile phones. I can’t Ashley see this quarantine measure happening. It is too late. I am hoping those vulnerable have already caught it and many more of us have had it and not even known.
By:
Angoose
When: 09 May 20 11:48
Leave you mobile phone at home when you go out Happy
By:
impossible123
When: 09 May 20 11:50
The government are still playing catch-up with the virus even in the eyes of a lay person like myself; this is neither anti-government nor politically inclined. But, the government have either been led-up the garden path by the health "experts" or being disingenuous with the truth or treating us citizens as idiots or children.

There's only so much patience and tolerance on the part of most UK citizens on their handling of this virus before a public outcry or dissatisfaction witnessed in the near future; graphs and projections will no longer be accepted as gospel truth.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 May 20 11:52
Why not quarantine now, or at least ask folk to

Why wait until june

It's crazy




Pleased the garden centres are opening, but begs the question why were they closed?
By:
Injera
When: 09 May 20 11:55
Staggering climb down by the government. As twizzle says, the experts said there was ‘no point doing this as the virus was already here.’

That statement was about as dumb a thing we’ve heard so far. It’s like saying there’s no point banning imports of Kalashnikovs because there are loads here already Crazy
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 09 May 20 11:57
Crikey impossible123 criticises the Government hold the front page!

Things must be bad!
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 May 20 12:07
They are making it up as they go along.

Of course they are because it's a fluid situation that's evolving rapidly.  Only a fecking idiot sticks to a rigid plan.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 09 May 20 12:10
I know there are plenty of people that want a rigid plan because that's all they can mentally cope with.
By:
impossible123
When: 09 May 20 12:10
I'm listening and watching the news and pictures from abroad to guide me, and not what comes out of the voiceboxes of government in the daily 5pm briefing. I believe the government and health "experts" are managing our expectation, taking our trust as a given and treating us as children or idiots.

But no more!
By:
impossible123
When: 09 May 20 12:16
I do not want a rigid plan from the government. I just want the government to be proactive and truthful eg non-procurement of PPE and equipment at the outset; stop treating the UK citizens as morons; etc.

The incompetence and dereliction of duty from the government have to stopped.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 May 20 12:16
NO PLAN IS BETTER THAN A BAD PLAN

LaughLaughLaugh
By:
potlis
When: 09 May 20 12:22
Been massive criticism on many forums about what’s happening at airports, Government has decided it needs to be in a position to claim it took action, when this crisis is discussed in future, can hear it now, “we took action, we took action.....
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 09 May 20 12:36
People arriving in the UK would have to self-isolate at a private residence.


So before they self-isolate, they travel by rail or road to their place of quarantine.

Why can't they quarantine for two weeks before they travel ie in the country of origin.
By:
1st time poster
When: 09 May 20 12:38
the only 2 things the government and scientists have agreed on,rightly or wrongly in last 12 weeks are.
face masks make very little or no difference
quarantining passengers make,s little difference

so after 10 weeks what 2 things will doris announce LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 May 20 12:40
It really is farcical 1tp
By:
jollyswagman
When: 09 May 20 12:41
he may well say 'wear a face mask when you are in quarantine' Laugh
By:
impossible123
When: 09 May 20 12:44
I believe quarantine prior to travelling could only be on trust and open to abuse. I think quarantine ought to be near the port of entry and place of abode chosen by government and paid for by new arrival. This cost cannot be born out by taxpayers.
By:
Just Checking
When: 09 May 20 12:48
It's pathetic big ticket "Gesture Politics" of the worst kind to show they are being tough to the baying mob of the clueless.
It's very depressing this government is so weak they are lowering themself to appease them.

Can't believe they are doing this. From any long term helicopter view it's pretty much pointless but very destructive.

The airlines and tourist industries might as well lay off another 1/3 of their staff or fold now.

Meanwhile in Sweden someone calls it like it is.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8300631/Swedish-Covid-19-expert-says-lockdown-merely-delaying-inevitable.html

It's so far gone it's endemic. Acting like we're going to "beat it" by an endless lockdown is delusional.
By:
politicspunter
When: 09 May 20 12:54
It is the weakest government I have ever seen, by a mile.
By:
impossible123
When: 09 May 20 12:58
No one has your foresight nevertheless, despite mistakes made at the outset another period of lockdown is necessary and proper. The virus cannot be allowed to embark on a 2nd wave as it's the case in Japan and possibly Singapore.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 09 May 20 12:58
I think we are all in agreement the government has fallen between two stools on this.

Those who wanted forced lockdown say they did it too late.

Those who wanted just shielding the vulnerable and basic social distancing say they are doing too much.

We are in the worst of both worlds. A lot of death and a lot of restrictions on life.
By:
InsiderTrader
When: 09 May 20 13:03
It is easy to start restrictions.

Very hard to end them.

Look at schools. Unions saying no thanks to opening in June even though only 3 under 15s have died having tested positive.
By:
impossible123
When: 09 May 20 13:04
A lack of prep and not taking the threat of the virus seriously at the outset have resulted in too many deaths and an economy suffering the highest contraction in just over a few months. But, the time to apportion blame is not now.
By:
Injera
When: 09 May 20 13:06
Restricting air travel and quarantine for arrivals was arguably the first thing needed to be done.

To do it now looks like an admission of failure and an attempt to finally listen. Too late.
By:
impossible123
When: 09 May 20 13:09
Of course. One bad apple spoils the barrel, as the saying goes; a good prep is more likely to yield a good result eg in exam, interview, life, etc. But, someone managed to forget to tell the government, somehow.
By:
Cider
When: 09 May 20 13:10

May 9, 2020 -- 1:04PM, impossible123 wrote:


A lack of prep and not taking the threat of the virus seriously at the outset have resulted in too many deaths and an economy suffering the highest contraction in just over a few months. But, the time to apportion blame is not now.


There's no logic to that statement, clearly a longer lockdown is more damaging to the economy. Our version of a lockdown has been one of the least severe. Anecdotally, most older people don't want the economy sacrificed to protect as many people from the virus as possible.

By:
Just Checking
When: 09 May 20 13:13
Flights were already down 98%.
Are the government going to bail out the airlines and airports specifically for the duration of this knee jerk obviously populist measure?

It's incredibly hard to believe it will make any significant statistical difference vs if we had say "flying people without symptoms wearing issued masks sitting socially distanced on planes, from countries with a lower or similar infection rate than here", when we've likely got millions infected already. 

Populist gesture politics. Very sad to see.
By:
politicspunter
When: 09 May 20 13:14

May 9, 2020 -- 1:10PM, Cider wrote:


May  9, 2020 -- 12:04PM, impossible123 wrote:A lack of prep and not taking the threat of the virus seriously at the outset have resulted in too many deaths and an economy suffering the highest contraction in just over a few months. But, the time to apportion blame is not now.There's no logic to that statement, clearly a longer lockdown is more damaging to the economy. Our version of a lockdown has been one of the least severe. Anecdotally, most older people don't want the economy sacrificed to protect as many people from the virus as possible.


What prep? What plan?

By:
Cider
When: 09 May 20 13:17
Only Asian countries that suffered from similar life threatening pandemics were fully prepared. The plan was published at the start of March iirc.
By:
Angoose
When: 09 May 20 13:18
Anecdotally, most older people don't want the economy sacrificed to protect as many people from the virus as possible.

Cider, remember that survey you were happy to selectively quote from earlier in the week ?

By:
Cider
When: 09 May 20 13:20
So this is only older people?
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