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By:
moisok
When: 26 Oct 19 22:02
I cant remember the actual amount of co2 but it is only a tiny microbe of an amount - I will have to check exact amounts  all this  ppmm etc amounts is scaremongering
By:
moisok
When: 26 Oct 19 22:09
of course there is a counter argument that says small amounts can have much larger effect than is currently thought

more of this to come
By:
Mexico
When: 26 Oct 19 22:51
Moisok

Are they really finding that - or is it just another lie you are posting.

You still haven't explained why you posted a complete lie about Gore's "quote "

You haven't provided a link to this latest "fact" - is it true.
Got to say very unlikely to be true as is published by a liar & once again without a link.

Why do you post so many lies?
By:
Charlie
When: 27 Oct 19 09:44
When anyone refuses to give a source of their information you have to ask why. Are they just making stuff up, highly likely for tm and moisok, or are they trying to hide something about the source?

The text given by moiok starting:
moisok • October 26, 2019 8:49 PM BST
meanwhile

The West Antarctic Ice Sheet is growing, but I bet you didn’t read about it in the news.
Nor would you probably be able to find it if you entered “West Antarctic Ice Sheet Growing” in a Google search.


Is from an article West Antarctic Ice Sheet Growing As Southern Ocean Warms Slightly published on
https://cei.org/blog/west-antarctic-ice-sheet-growing-southern-ocean-warms-slightly
The author being Patrick J Michaels.

Now Patrick J Michaels is often funded by the fossil-fuel industry. You can draw your own conclusions from that.
By:
Charlie
When: 27 Oct 19 09:56
When Patrick J Michaels says:

Nor would you probably be able to find it if you entered “West Antarctic Ice Sheet Growing” in a Google search. That search would likely uncover one 2015 publication by NASA’s Jay Zwally in the Journal of Glaciology using actual weather data that showed increasing snowfall, primarily over East Antarctica, was adding a small amount of ice

He's either not competent at using Google search or is deliberately trying to mislead people again you can make your own mind up. A quick search finds an article by NASA on the 13th December 2018:

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2836/antarcticas-contribution-to-sea-level-rise-was-mitigated-by-snowfall/
Antarctica's contribution to sea level rise was mitigated by snowfall authored by By Maria-José Viñas.

And worth quoting from that article is: “Snowfall plays a critical role in Antarctic mass balance and it will continue to do so in the future,” Medley said. “Currently it is helping mitigate ice losses, but it’s not entirely compensating for them. We expect snowfall will continue to increase into the 21st century and beyond, but our results show that future increases in snowfall cannot keep pace with oceanic-driven ice losses in Antarctica.”


As Patrick J Michaels would also have access to scientific papers, and this article was published on Nature Climate Change on Dececember 10 2018, I don't think he's telling the whole truth.
By:
terry mccann
When: 27 Oct 19 10:01
"Thunberg slams Facebook for not curbing constant lies and conspiracy theories(telling the truth)and calls on her 2.6m followers to demand change (ON BEHALF OF THE ELITE THAT CONTROLS HER AND IS TARGETTING THEIR FREEDOM").
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Oct 19 10:06
He said the west Antarctic icecsheet is growing

Is it or isn’t it ?
By:
Charlie
When: 27 Oct 19 11:11
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2019/08/the-antarctic-ice-sheet-is-melting-and-yeah-its-probably-our-fault/
The Antarctic ice sheet is melting and, yeah, it’s probably our fault.
Filed under: Climate Science — eric @ 14 August 2019

Glaciers in West Antarctica have thinned and accelerated in the last few decades.  A new paper provides some of the first evidence that this is due to human activities.
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Oct 19 11:44
west Antarctica will be subject to exactly the same ‘ man made climate change’
and the ice sheet is growing ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 27 Oct 19 11:52
slightly negative trend in the 19c , slightly positive trend 20c
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 27 Oct 19 12:57
Borrowed from another climate bollox thread. What a fooking sham this really all is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50087022

Payroll
Extinction Rebellion's site lists every single expense, from a £7,350 payment for coloured boats that were sent all over the country to a £1,313 insurance premium for a fire engine that was used in a bungled attempt to spray fake blood on the treasury.
But, perhaps surprisingly for an activist organisation, the group's biggest outgoing is its payroll.
Activists can claim so-called "volunteer living expenses" of up to £400 a week, which set the group back £130,000 for the months of June, July and August alone.

"volunteer living expenses" of up to £400 a week  Rent a mob  , Not bad money For a bit of Super Glue on the Hand  , All legal Expenses Covered

THE AGENDA IN FULL SWING Grin  HOW MUCH MUST GREAT THUNDERBURG AND THE FAMILY BE ON , They must be getting the absolute Lot .
By:
moisok
When: 27 Oct 19 13:00
charlie and mex are acolytes of the al gore church - they religiously cling to his every utterance - beware of fanatics.
By:
moisok
When: 27 Oct 19 13:09
6 different expeditions failed to get through - too much ice - go on say that is a lie
By:
Mexico
When: 27 Oct 19 13:15
Moisok

Why do you post lies on here?

You have mentioned Gore yet again but still haven't provided a link on any evidence to the bear "quote " you claimed he said.

Why post libel on this site Moisok. Just provide a link when you have a "quote "
By:
Mexico
When: 27 Oct 19 13:21
John

Do you have any concept of expenses for living in London for a week.
You seem to think £400 is "not bad money " -
I could spend that in a day if had a decent expense account for work.

And of course a protest group has just about nothing to do with this thread, where a simple question was asked on the first post.
Still waiting for any evidence- plenty of total lies and irrelevant cut & paste.
By:
moisok
When: 27 Oct 19 13:30
they will simply follow their greta and al gore guidelines

no thought of their own enters ho ho
By:
terry mccann
When: 27 Oct 19 13:54
The Elite owned Gretna "wants hate speech(criticism of her)banned along with "conspiracy theories(exposing the climate cult)and says facts must be checked(expect hers).
By:
Charlie
When: 27 Oct 19 15:32

Oct 26, 2019 -- 8:33PM, moisok wrote:


they keep saying the ice is melting but they can't even get there coz there is too much ho ho howhat bit of that don't you getgo and hide behind al gore and his crooked money making cabal


Let's see if we can add some truth to this.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2018/12/10/arctic-sea-ice-is-growing-faster-than-before-but-theres-a-catch/#4f14c2e91ef4
Arctic Sea Ice Is Growing Faster Than Before, But There's A Catch

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1029/2018GL079223?referrer_access_token=jaar06Dhk82nINdDLUrCScOuACxIJX3yJRZRu4P4ertlji-RhEdYjGRQX7rDWt3gY5XGb9o84bpLUU6LW18C43s09vRgleK8BjUjRJC-11H0AMckm47ZP5d7I2gCD6NSXJQKUcU_z7rm_vXfHAYsPw%3D%3D
Warm Arctic, increased winter sea ice growth

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2831/wintertime-arctic-sea-ice-growth-slows-long-term-decline-nasa/
intertime Arctic sea ice growth slows long-term decline: NASA

The short version is more ice is now being produced in the winter but this doesn't offset the greater ice melt in the summer.

"Our findings highlight some resilience of the Arctic sea ice cover," Petty said. "If we didn't have this negative feedback, the ice would be declining even faster than it currently is. Unfortunately, the positive feedback loop of summer ice melt and increased solar absorption associated with summer ice melting still appears to be dominant and continue to drive overall sea ice declines."

By:
terry mccann
When: 27 Oct 19 16:22
You must the only person above the age of 12 who belives this crap,but you don't really do youDevil
By:
Tallywagger.
When: 27 Oct 19 17:12
There is no funding in good news.

Always remember this.
By:
Charlie
When: 27 Oct 19 17:20
Tell that to the fossil-fuel companies as they seem to have forgot that.
By:
Mexico
When: 27 Oct 19 21:44
Nice one TM,

Pretending he has the scientific education of a 12 year old.

LOL - he must have nailed tge 11+ in 1957 , stormed his science O levels, Aced his chemistry & maths A levels before getting a 1st in Natural Sciences.

I see Moisok still hasn't explained why he posts lies on this forum- any thoughts on that Al Gore link?
By:
treetop
When: 27 Oct 19 23:26
God,this is getting tedious using repeated accusations of lies and insults diminishes your case lads.
By:
detraveller
When: 27 Oct 19 23:37
I don't understand how either side can debate an event that will supposedly happen many many years from now(You won't know in your lifetime if what you are defending was true or not. The short term events have been proved to be wrong the way I see it). I also don't understand why people care so much about the generation that will eventually face the issues but i've been told its something to do with love so I won't argue. I think humans are powerful and the generation that eventually faces this will find the solution.

In short, I don't give a feck(just like the countries that actually cause this carbon thing).
By:
Nebs
When: 27 Oct 19 23:48
I wonder what causes climate change on the other planets?
By:
terry mccann
When: 28 Oct 19 11:39
"Smelling big money,Politicians are happy to go along with it too.
ESPECIALLY SINCE MARK CARNEY,DIRECTOR OF THE BANK OF ENGLAND,ANNOUNCED THAT ANY BUSINESSES THAT DO NOT CONFORM TO THE ZERO CARBON "GREEN" CRITERIA WILL BE BLOCKED FROM ACCESS TO NEW LOANS,WHILE THOSE THAT DO CAN EXPECT HIGH FINANCIAL REWARDS".
By:
terry mccann
When: 28 Oct 19 11:41
Makes me think why bother sitting here thinking people power can make a difference when these monsters that rule the world play tricks like that,"do as we say or we will destroy you"Devil-bastards one and all.
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 28 Oct 19 12:59
Charlie26 Oct 19 17:19Joined: 01 Dec 01 | Topic/replies: 27,956Glad to know where your level of intelligence is at. Also glad to see you acknowledge you have no scientific background even though that's been completely transparent for a long time. Next step for you is to acknowledge you have no idea what you're talking about.

Well well well. The chit chat forum expert on fook all speaks.

The one big difference between us is HONESTY

I am honest and you are not. Fact not fiction.

You and Mexico are LIARS. If you are not LIARs then you actually as thick as you appear to be. Crazy
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 28 Oct 19 15:44
It's amazing how easily people with a little knowledge on a subject can have the wool pulled over their eyes by supposedly experts.
When even their own common sense is discarded in the face of superior qualifications.
By:
moisok
When: 28 Oct 19 17:59
6 times various global warming fanatics tried to approach the ice and it was either too thick or just too much ice all over  ho ho
By:
moisok
When: 28 Oct 19 18:01
mex and charles are DENIERS - it is clear and obvious  - a world wide money making scam
I am jealous - wish I had thought of it

I wonder how much dosh sloshes around in greta's mum and dad's account
By:
Coachbuster
When: 28 Oct 19 19:19
my mate just phoned me and said climate change is for real and you'd better believe it ...he left here this afternoon in 12c at Stansted and just got off the plane in Valetta  and it was  21c and sunny
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 28 Oct 19 19:19
My mate has got zero qualifications in science.  He says climate change science is too far fetched, so he doesn't believe them and says nothing is going to happen.

And he's been right every time over climate change.

While the predictions from the best scientific brains whose deadlines have come on gone, have been wrong every time over climate change.

No qualifications required - right every time. Just need a good nose to sniff out bullshine.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 28 Oct 19 19:24
temperature will keep going up while we're over dependant on fossils  ...  oil production not slowing down .in fact  will keep going up for another 100 years    while developing nations use more and more oil
By:
Charlie
When: 28 Oct 19 19:24
Your mate, just like, you has no qualifications. Just like you he is wrong not because he has no qualifications but because he can't understand what is going on. So what great predictions as your mate been correct over?  The thing I find the hardest to believe about your post is you have a mate.
By:
moisok
When: 28 Oct 19 19:41
Charlie - you don't know what is going on

glad to have helped
By:
Charlie
When: 28 Oct 19 19:53
moisok
You have never helped. Not even yourself.
By:
moisok
When: 28 Oct 19 19:56
yes I have  - despite all the insults, veiled and otherwise,  etc,  I have helped balance the discussion

with reams of evidence

you are lucky to have me
By:
Charlie
When: 28 Oct 19 20:08
Ho, ho, ho. You are seriously deluded if you think you have produced a balanced discussion. And as for insults just read the thread. Nobody, absolutely nobody would be lucky to have you. Keep trying in your high-heels and stockings though.
By:
treetop
When: 28 Oct 19 20:09
Indeed moisy,I go to sleep at night comforted by your presence on this board spreading intelligence,insight and an abundance of common sense Grin
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