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By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 16:13
obviously mr soros didn't get to him
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 17 Oct 19 16:14
He mugs off thurnburger brilliantly Laugh

Not to mention that nasa goon hansen who charlie hangs his hat on.. Funny as fcuk Grin
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 16:19
How to lie with statistics. Darel Huff I think
It was our first book as in intro
all about squeezing and chopping graphs.

and the old 'averages'   example of 100 people in a village worth 100 million pounds but 99 had nothing

guy at the end of the road had the 100 million if you get my approximate drift
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 16:21
I have to agree with the climate scarers though - there are no polar bears - I have my own eyes and can see.
By:
Charlie
When: 17 Oct 19 16:40

Oct 17, 2019 -- 4:00PM, Platini wrote:


Dr Soon rips the p**s out of the climate nuttershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JJ3yeiNjf4


Hooray, I've been waiting a while for somebody to mention Dr Soon. He's very good, quite funny and an enjoyable watch. I'd recommend watching the whole video of him talking at the Independent Institute recently. Elliot Bloom talks for the second part of the video but I found that boring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zrejG-WI3U

I'll comment later.

By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 17:51
chopping graphs has always been very popular

you 'prove' so many things with them

you would be a right charlie if you didn't

you can blind people with science  BUT

I recall a forumite once saying on the 'demographic shift' (the new political buzzword) 

'I don't need to listen to government, deniers and experts.  I just have to walk out my front door to see it'
By:
Charlie
When: 17 Oct 19 18:39
'I don't need to listen to government, deniers and experts.  I just have to walk out my front door to see it'

I hope you believed him. That's truly global.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 18:51
but he was right - try it - you will find it is a metaphor for going out into the world and looking around you

all around which IS truly global

glad to have helped
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 18:58
why are climate scarers so supercillious, ignorant and insulting fellas - they think THEY hold the science  - do they know what science is?  or what it purports to be?

I will leave you with the 'truths' held as solid and insurmountable that the earth was KNOWN  to be the center of the universe. It was a proven scientific fact backed up by established religion.

I give you Copernicus  then Galileo  ho ho.   Lock the trouble maker up!!!  He went against what was commonly believed as we try to do as we get drowned out by the noisy ones.   Try going on the tube today!!!

Established   and   Religion being two words now used re this climate debate -  Not Global warming or climate change (it changes all the time)    But  climate DEBATE.
By:
Charlie
When: 17 Oct 19 19:42
Ask the same person to go and have in look in his back-garden for illegal immigrants. If not there proves there are non. Ask him to look for polar bears probably non there so they're all dead. Spacemen, men in high-heels looking for a new boyfriend, I'm sure everything worth knowing happens in his back-garden.
By:
Charlie
When: 17 Oct 19 19:50
I give you Copernicus  then Galileo  ho ho.   Lock the trouble maker up!!!  He went against what was commonly believed as we try to do as we get drowned out by the noisy ones.   Try going on the tube today!!!

I'll will also give you those two great scientists who were proved correct despite the criticism from the uneducated. As you will be, unfortunately, about climate change.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 20:03
you missed the point completely - the science and religion were the science and religion PROVING  we WERE the center with the sun revolving around us

climate change scarers have the new science and are the new science - they have it - it has been proven - all which has to be obeyed on the altar of faux science and is under challenge as we speak

you missed it completely  but then   CHARLIE   ho ho

ps what you on about  - I am on about going around the world not someones back garden  - who said anything about that?   like so many climate imposers you make up stories continually to prove your point and failing
By:
Platini
When: 17 Oct 19 20:04
theres a long long list of hysterical climate statements

"the science is settled" is one of my favs Laugh
By:
Mexico
When: 17 Oct 19 20:14
Back on the opening post (over a week ago) - a very simple reasonable relevant question was asked

So climate change deniers please post some evidence along with their sources to support your argument.


Since then the deniers haven't been able to answer & are reluctant to even discuss climate change.

We have had posts about Polar bears (the uneducated don't know what a thermometer measures) , protesters, people getting £400 a week expenses to stay in London (how the other half live ). Now the science dropouts argue that a couple of scientists used evidence to prove a theory hundreds of years ago we shouldn't believe the millions of scientists who use evidence to demonstrate that the planet is warming.

The idea that a change in chemical composition of the atmosphere can effect temperature is not new. The effects of CO2 (& other gases) as a "greenhouse gas" has been known of well over 100 years.
It has been replicated in lab experiments & the process has been explained at an atomic level.

Meanwhile the shiny hat mob watch loon-tube and actually believe the evidence-free video.


Still waiting for the "are you smarter than a 5 year old" question regarding the use of thermometer to be answered.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 17 Oct 19 20:20
Extinction Rebellion’ protest movement is one huge virtue signal centered around middle and upper middle class people lecturing working class people on how to live their lives.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 17 Oct 19 20:21
Stick your thermometer up your arse.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 20:31
not when their proof of global warming is based on graphs chopped short by decades - as any student of statistics learns on day one

you can squeeze/lengthen and chop graphs to prove almost any point

darel huff - 99 pages  How to lie with Statistics.

they are about crushing dissent with as much noise and political influence they can make

whilst lashing out millions to promote the cause

it has become a cause   a religion  - speak out and you run the risk of becoming a pariah electorally

you won't hear many outright against the new religion  especially the High Priestess
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 20:33
no one has heard of the sun   

it makes us hot

if i had done a graph  1970 to 2019   I could make a fortune lecturing as the faithful screamed their adoration

particularly on the spikes the climate inquisitors love so much
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 20:42
it is the selective language they use so cleverly - 'it has been proved'

'it has been known for many years'

scientists and governments have signed off on it  but they just don't really know

so have hundreds of scientists signing off against it

it is just the first who can dominate the air waves and the media


so was the sun rotating around the earth - it wasn't just a scientific fact - even the church ruled on it - you could be locked up for opposing it

how did that one turn out?
By:
Mexico
When: 17 Oct 19 20:48
Moisok- you may not be the best person to post about temperature if you are unaware of a device called a thermometer.

The sun is the most studied star in the Universe, scientists are aware it provides the Earth with energy.

Define what you mean by the term "hot" .
The moon also receives energy from the Sun & reaches temperature in excess of 400K . On Earth Max recorded temperature is under 350K.
The moon temperature can be as low as 100K yet on Earth won't drop below 200K.

Could having a gaseous atmosphere effect the Earth temperature compared to our near neighbour the moon?
The Sun might "make us hot " (difficult to tell without a definition of "hot") but it the atmosphere which regulates the temperature. It prevents too much heat radiating from Earth into space.


Moisok- again a primary school child has more knowledge of science than you are showing- yet you actually believe you know more than PhD students, post docs,  Drs, professors.
By:
flushgordon1
When: 17 Oct 19 20:54
It's a stealth tax .
By:
Platini
When: 17 Oct 19 20:57
Climate fraudsters for the last 40 years..




Laugh
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 20:58
when I have one I will pop out and see how hot everything is

thank you for your advice it is kind of you

in 76/78  we roasted - laid in it for many hours

we didn't know about skin in those days  but I am very old now

after the huge temp spike then we had snow drifts which cut us of for 5 days I think it was

I really should have recorded it all to shove up the climate inquisition's bottom
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 21:00
not that the climate inquistiion has any answers to my critique but I have been to dozens of climates

I have been frozen in the northern wastes and steamed in the tropics 

south north east and west

hope this helps

the extremes are amazing to experience

it's these polar bears which fry my brain

I go to bed worrying about them

there are none left - can't see one
By:
Mexico
When: 17 Oct 19 21:04
Moisok

Thanks for understanding that a five year old has a greater understanding of how to measure temperature than you do.

Your back garden in 1976 makes up a very small proportion of planet Earth. Your story is hardly about "global " temperature changes.

BTW Record UK temperature was recorded this year not in 1976.

Are you aware that the atmosphere has effect on how much heat is kept on the planet (rather than radiating into space)
By:
Mexico
When: 17 Oct 19 21:07
Moisok why do you keep posting irrelevant garbage then say "I hope this helps "

It has been pointed out many times your posts don't help. The original question was to provide evidence- you keep failing. So no help whatsoever.

I hope this helps.
By:
treetop
When: 17 Oct 19 21:08
A similar pattern to Scared to Death, an interesting book by Christopher Booker noting how the scare is mentioned,the media promote it,a few experts come on TV to endorse it,then the politicians get onto the train to curry favour with the public then regulation is produced to be seen to "do something" then it fades away and gets forgotten about later but the taxes stay.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 21:30
no no no mexico

it was fkn scorching in 76 and 77 as I was in 78   

this is where science collapses coz I was there

they are pulling your chain old chap

like the half dozen climate inquisition trips out to prove the hot tub ice theory but ran in to so much ice they had to give up their pet projects to prove how wrong us ignorant global warming deniers are

ho ho
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 21:43
You know when you are winning (if it should be called 'winning' the argument)  It is the list of 'put downs' and arrogance - the derogatory language they use, impuning a higher level of intelligence as THEIR science is superior and proven(which it is not)
When you are called ignorant, of low IQ, et et etc  posting irrrelevant garbage (the polar bears are not irrelevant garbage and are part of the debate and proving what is going on)

and from mexico   Moisok- again a primary school child has more knowledge of science than you are showing- yet you actually believe you know more than PhD students, post docs,  Drs, professors.

Still waiting for the "are you smarter than a 5 year old" question regarding the use of thermometer to be answered.
and this  from mexico 
and scientist 'drop outs'   ah so they don't follow the global warming inquisition anymore!! ho ho


ps just wondering how I can tell about climate change from my back garden  but here goes as it has been mentioned

the last few days I have had the heating on once as it got cold and then the sun got high and made it rather warm

there yah go

but they don't want to talk about the polar bears anymore coz there's lots  more of them and don't suit their agenda even though they were the poster 'boys' of their early global warming inquisition  - oh don't hurt the poor bears - so clever coz no one would go against their bears -- who would be so cruel

BUT NOW  they are proliferating but WWF is still after money for them    oh don't they realise what a money raising scam this is

SO NOW IT IS DOWN TO NAME CALLING   you know they are being found out

Want to know more?
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 21:45
Treetop - as far as thunderburg's mob is concerned this IS  the tactic  - scare 'em - use the scary language  - shock them - clever clever stuff and get a young girl to front it so people will be scared to attack her coz she is a young girl at school  - you are a bully by definition

you have to admire the capitalist wreckers who are running this organsiation
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 21:47
ps they have admitted this is what they are doing

what is it

twelve years  oh my goodness we must do something before then   - !!!  it works but it is purely destructive   it certainly isn't building anything
they have nothing to replace the thing they want to destroy
By:
Mexico
When: 17 Oct 19 22:02
LOL

Moisok- you upset I believe a 5 year old understands how to measure temperature yet you don't.


Poor thing Moisok- & how could you be a science dropout when you have a CSE grade E in geography. Basically equivalent to a PHD isn't it Moisok?

It was your choice to leave school without any scientific education- why are you crying about being a dropout. Just study if you are so upset.


Can start with using a thermometer rather than a bear to measure temperature.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 22:07
members of the climat warming can only resort to the derogatory  and personal - it really is a shame but they don't want a debate

they are right and that is all you need to know

insults right and left but no evidence except corrupt bent graphs published in the years that suit their so called arguments

earth temperatures  ignored at certain dates   USING THERMOMETERS ho ho  bent and twisted

but it gives more dosh to your paymasters
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 22:12
and do not mention the bears  - they will go ballistic  ho ho

seems like the bear population because of global warming was down to very dangerous levels

got everyone's attention

locals said they thought there were only a few hundred

I mean people, this is serious and very sad stuff - got everyone's attention AND THEIR MONEY very quickly

But it was nothing like that - still worrying oh yes  BUT THEN NEVER ACTUALLY KNEW THE NUMBERS

they did the lone bear on the ice and that got more attention AND MONEY

but it turns out to be a load of!!!    Their population is very healthy - if there are too many they might devour all the fish or the seals or both  ha hahahaha
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 22:13
just another global warmers inquistion LIE    a media campaign  - forced down your throats for decades
By:
Mexico
When: 17 Oct 19 22:29
Moisok

The 1st post on this thread asked the deniers to provide any evidence.

They failed- again.

Don't cry about failing at school, failing to understand basic science, failing University, failing exams, failing to understand the difference between a thermometer & a bear, and failing to provide any evidence.

Nobody really expected you to provide any evidence.
By:
moisok
When: 17 Oct 19 23:22
derogatory as far as you can  and even scared about debating the lying polar bear scandal which led the misleading of populations for decades

it was the poster lead of the campaigns of your masters who guzzled up the money on the backs of the floating bear

but never mind

greater minds than mine have smoked you lot out
By:
Mexico
When: 18 Oct 19 06:59
As already mentioned

A picture of a polar bear is neither evidence for or against climate change.

Calling a snowflake who has no scientific knowledge "derogatory " names is neither evidence for or against climate change.

1st post on this thread asked for evidence to support your beliefs.
Zero evidence has been provided.


So a success or a failure?
By:
terry mccann
When: 18 Oct 19 11:28
Well at least its not just me who knows what a friggin great liar you are mex-keep it up dicky
By:
boxingthefox
When: 18 Oct 19 11:51
Mex is a freak of nature, when God was giving out brains mex thought he said pains and said I don't want any of them thank you.Laugh
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