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case, these heavies werent even brave enough to attack him from the front, they had to sneek up to him unseen. you called this wrong, just because he has views you dont like he doesnt deserve to be attacked. so now you are have gone from doubting it happened to laughing at its severity....
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Speaking of tiny-minded Porky. I'm glad to see that I'm still getting under your skin.
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It looks like jollyswagman has got his arse in his hand as well.
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Swag I could not give a flying about the Bloke he is an annoying tw@t it does not mean I want him attacked , But when he went on twitter 30 mins after it happened and stated he was attacked by 3/4 men and had a graze on his back ,It sounded like a load of shyte TBH , An 80 year old woman with a handbag would have done more damage ,I have nothing against Gay People , It is the Civ lib Mob he is partof that get up my nose , Thankfully they were all put firmly in their Place in December , Let him and his Likes twitter away , No one is listening anymore ,we have heard enough shyte from them thank foook Steptoe and his mob
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Owen Jones is a big baby who craves attention.
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Crippen's prejudice has got the better of him here. He's forgotten that Owen Jones is the victim.
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case that is a very poor attempt to defend your posts on this thread. the election and labour party are irrelevant, you were very quick to doubt jones account of what happened. you had no evidence, no facts to back up your case but you continued regardless. the outcome of the case is that, basically, what he said is correct. some 'hardmen' tw@ts who werent even brave enough to have a go at him face to face attacked him, and from behind.
he was beaten up by far right thugs, do you accept this? |
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blackbarn, crippen is a low grade troll, no more no less. when you realise this it is easy to just ignore anything he says.
fyi, he cannot even count to four. |
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I could not give a Flying who attacked him , if they are Far Right so be it ,as you stated Tw@ts regardless ,I actually though it was a gay on gay attack ,So I was wrong, Cest La Vie , No damage done Move on, I am sure the Perps will be sentenced
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Perhaps the Team of D1cks involved could be moved on to the Sex cases that have been going on Nationwide , they seem to have done a good Job on this case ,But hang About "Joans" is a Gay agenda Luvvie ,we cannot have anything Happening to them ?
Young white working class Girls are a Fair Target , it seems , certainly decades of non investigation there ... I suggest we set up a Met team to investigate Nationwide .... |
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what made you think it was gay on gay, as you put it, when there was no such evidence?
let's face it case, his twatability was enough for you. maybe you should have just followed the evidence, which in this case led to convictions. at least you are prepared to defend your position, daft as it is, i dont see any of the other cognoscenti even trying.... |
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Didn't realise Jones had so many fans on here.
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Always on the side of the victim, once proven, Aka. You?
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ffs an attack on him is of no relevance to the other cases you mention, it isnt his fault other cases havent been investigated.
a poor attempt at deflection. as too from akabula, to no surprise. |
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He gad a scratch on his back Blackbarn ,You or I , a fine and bound over at a Magistrates , "Joans" How much is all this Costing the Tax payer ??
People have the absolute Shyte kicked out them kicking out time Most friday nights For what ever reason , Not many of the cases end up in crown Court ![]() |
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Lets hope your Tax Contribution is Going towards the Case Jolly ,it would certainly add to your Delight ...
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casemoney - I cannot believe that you are still posting on this thread in this vein on this subject. I read it all very carefully before posting.
Have you read your previous postings on this subject. I'd be embarrassed, but whatever........... |
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i have zero delight in forumites jumping to conclusions and then refusing to back down when their conclusions are proven to be wrong. on this thread your comments are those of someone with 'delight' not mine, and your comments have been found to be 100% wrong.
a judge concluded that he was beaten up because of who he is, namely his left wing and lgbt views. you were wrong, it was a wholly unprovoked assault carried out by man with extreme views. that you cannot just accept this says something about you but absolutely nothing about me. attempts to link this case to other, completely unrelated cases, just show how desperate you are. |
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Could you answer my Question , as to How hundreds of people are attacked , Post PUB/CLUB weekly , and most of the cases do not end up in criminal proceedings , people who have had their backed scratched in a scuffle would certainly be among those
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your question is just a pathetic attempt to avoid the subject of the thread, you were keen to express doubt in the immediate aftermath of the unprovoked attack.
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You answered it " left wing and lgbt views " so if you do not hold them views its OK to be attacked for what ever reason ?
Because that is what Happens ,some poor fookers get the shyte kicked out of them for no reason , Thats ok is it ? |
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The old cards are Played and the full Attention of the law is required , All seems a little Biased to me ,of course I may be wrong , it would not be first time on this thread
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this is desperate stuff case, you are now in a terrible sate of denial, attributing views to me which i have not stated. left wing and lgbt views are what the judge said, fairly obviously i havent said it is ok to attack people who do not hold such views.
basically the thread is about a man being attacked because he is a 'leftie and a gay'. at the start of the thread did you doubt if the attack happened or if it was motivated by these factors? obviously the answer is yes. and how did the court case go? well, erm, the judge found that the attack was motivated by these factors so you were 100% wrong. |
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casemoney - before I answer your question to the extent of my ability. Have you read all your previous posts on this thread on this subject? and do you stand by your comments. I am happy to take retractions on the silliest bits ahead of replying if it helps.
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I will refrain whilst jollyswagman has the floor.
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I have no Notion to read back through the Thread perhaps you cab Copy and paste them all for me so as I can quickly Read through them ..
The question I asked has been answered by Jolly , the fact is that a Gay Luvvie Ended up with scratches on his back after a late night Post Pub scuffle ,Houses have been raided The full force of the Law has come into play .Other Gay people suffer attacks alot worse than Mr Joans , HOMOPHOBIC ATTACKS , many go unreported , or they do not get investigated ... WHY ??? and if you doubt what I am saying do not ,some shocking statistics ![]() |
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In answer to Jolly , yes I thought it was a Load of old Cobblers , and read it wrong .
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case i like you but that is just deflection, you were keen to doubt it was a homophobic attack, maybe you even doubted there was an attack. the fact that other homophobic attacks dont get investigated is irrelevant to this thread.
jones was attacked because of who and what he is, he didnt deserve it. attempts to deny or minimise this are just wrong. thank you, i have just got your last post as i was writing this one ![]() |
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Its an awful shame that some deaths of gay men are not investigated the Same as the Joans scratches ATTACK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Port https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Ireland ![]() Men Missing, found dead on the street ,nothing done ,not even investigated , WHY ?? What is so special about our Friend Owen ?? and a few scratches ?? |
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tbh I doubted Owen. But it appears this Healy guy is basically the identikit far right thug.
Though Case is not necessarily wrong in thinking it might be 'pink on pink'. I always assume Combat 18 types are repressed gays, unless strong evidence to the contrary. Attacking a gay guy is not evidence to the contrary, rather a 'he doth protest too much' attempt to prove manliness. The leaders of these sort of groups usually come out of the closet eventually. Far Right + Gay goes back at least as far as Ernst Rohm. |
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port was ringing up the old bill not long after he had killed them, a terrible failure of the met to stop him earlier than when he was caught.
however, i am back at the ffs comment, the thread is about a particular person being bashed up for no reason other than his being a leftie and gay, something you were keen to minimise/deny. all cases should be investigated, if other cases are not investigated that is not jones fault, more deflection case ![]() |
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I saw a documentary about the Stephen Port case. Absolutely mindblowing. Recommended viewing for anyone who thinks that Met detectives are the smart guys who can solve stuff that Portuguese cops can't.
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but your comments were fairly balanced tobermory unlike case's.
however, you are now losing me, as far as i am aware there is zero evidence of it being pink on pink, the judge found it to be case of a homophobic / political attack. unless you have evidence of the attacker being a repressed gay your comments are just guesswork unlike the views of the judge.... the port case was astounding, him ringing 999 after 'finding' the bodies not far from where he lived. |
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I mean these ultra far right characters often turn out to be gay. Attacking another gay is often a way of 'proving themselves'.
Nicky Crane was the ultimate far right skinhead 'hero' but was secretly gay........... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25142557 ^ Interesting read if you have 10 minutes. Martin Webster, a National Front leader, another one. |
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blackbarn
Always on the side of the victim, once proven, Aka. You? Why have you singled me out to ask this question? If, as I suppose it is in response to my post I spoke of 'fans' and nothing else. Jones always looking to play the victim with any attacks whether physical or verbal immediately blamed on homophobia. Most people don't like him because he comes across as a spoilt child whenever he is losing an argument. |
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There have been other 'high profile' assaults on individuals which have never got to court.
Tommy Robinson is a case in point and he was assaulted in front of the police. Both cases seemed politically motivated assaults but neither was seriously hurt. Why did one go to court and not the other? Both victims. |
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When proven wrong, resort to whataboutery.
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jollyswagman
17 Jan 20 23:21 blackbarn, crippen is a low grade troll, no more no less. when you realise this it is easy to just ignore anything he says. fyi, he cannot even count to four. I did say that jollyswigger had got his arse in his hand last night. It's a shame he can't exercise a bit of self control when he sees red. |
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i,m your average joe,60 now ,done the football casuals thing,drinking clubs,gigs etc,done the casual racism thing,voted to leave the EU,was on a 2 week shutdown over xmas in cabin with 6 lads ive known over the years all over 45,toconfirm what paul mason labour campaigner said about the stuff he heard knocking at doors you couldn't print or repeat, after 2/3 days I could no longer sit in the cabin with them 10 hours of pure filth, overt racism ,you couldn't change the subject every thing went back to anti immigrant,anti muslim rhetoric, tommy robinson is a national hero even how they had to get their kids to vote Brexit,party,tory,hard right wing is now mainstream genie wont go back in the bottle, one of them disgusted because he was called to school because his 9 yr old son told someone your a smelly paki go home
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and the big difference nowadays is that 5 yrs ago I,d have had my say,said I disagreed with a lot of what they were saying,but not today best to keep quiet and sit outside and let them spew it out ,their not interested in listening ,discussing the subjects
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