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By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 19 Jun 19 21:56
that it is 80% above the average.
By:
politicspunter
When: 19 Jun 19 22:00
What difference does it make?
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 19 Jun 19 22:03
If you a member of betting exchange then its only right to challenge or question something that is abnormal.
By:
politicspunter
When: 19 Jun 19 22:06
There is nothing abnormal. What was the postal vote at the 2017 General election in the constituency?
By:
RacingCert
When: 19 Jun 19 22:16
Maybe that was abnormal too.
By:
politicspunter
When: 19 Jun 19 22:21
The percentage of postal votes in a given constituency are usually in the same ball park each election. However, this percentage varies enormously from one constituency to another. The constituency may be rural, it might have a high percentage of elderly voters etc. Traditionally, postal votes favour Conservative voters as they tend to be older or live in more rural constituencies.
By:
politicspunter
When: 19 Jun 19 22:25
Is the postal vote percentage in this constituency "80% above the average" of what it normally is?
By:
lfc1971
When: 19 Jun 19 22:29
^ that’s neither here nor there
By:
RacingCert
When: 19 Jun 19 22:34
Peterborough rural??
By:
RacingCert
When: 19 Jun 19 22:35
Give it up, pp.
By:
politicspunter
When: 19 Jun 19 22:35
Who said that?
By:
politicspunter
When: 19 Jun 19 22:38
Errm, I think you will find that I was giving rough examples of why there are large fluctuations in postal vote percentages throughout the UK. I am not suggesting Peterborough is particularly rural in any way.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 19 Jun 19 22:39
you just said it was rural Crazy
By:
Capt__F
When: 19 Jun 19 22:39
that's good but it's not right
By:
Capt__F
When: 19 Jun 19 22:40
say what ye seee
By:
politicspunter
When: 19 Jun 19 22:40
I certainly did not. I said...

"However, this percentage varies enormously from one constituency to another. The constituency may be rural, it might have a high percentage of elderly voters etc. Traditionally, postal votes favour Conservative voters as they tend to be older or live in more rural constituencies."
By:
Capt__F
When: 19 Jun 19 22:41
Roy walker knows
By:
lfc1971
When: 19 Jun 19 22:42
The problem is not in rural areas , but the inner cities
By:
Capt__F
When: 19 Jun 19 22:44
inner circle

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By:
donny osmond
When: 19 Jun 19 23:50
bad losers blame others

why not have another vote until you get the result you desire?
By:
Torquemada
When: 20 Jun 19 00:43
If postal votes traditionally favour elderly, Conservative voters, it would be interesting, would it not, if the postal votes of the recent Peterborough by-election favoured Labour voters of all ages? Did they?

Also, did the postal votes display a statistically remarkable bias towards voters of a particular ethnicity? Again, I would find this interesting.

Furthermore, given past incidents of fraudulent voting patterns involving multiple constituents sharing exactly the same name, I would be interested if this was a concern in the ongoing investigations.
By:
Torquemada
When: 20 Jun 19 00:51
I’ll admit that I am quite surprised to learn that postal votes favour elderly, Conservative voters. The elderly, Conservative voters I know are not only resolute in their convictions, they’re also a damned sight more hardy in their determination to make it to the polling station come rain or shine than most youngsters.
By:
John.W.Henry.
When: 20 Jun 19 08:04
How many people use postal votes?

The proportion of voters using postal votes has increased over the last three general elections. Different parts of the UK have different rates of postal voting: at the 2015 general election, Wales had the highest proportion of voters using postal votes (17.7%), while England had the lowest (16.7%) (except for Northern Ireland, where postal voting is not available on demand).

The proportion of postal voters also differs among English regions: at the 2015 general election, it ranged from 13.4% in the West Midlands to 26% in the North East. The highest proportion of postal voters was found in the Houghton and Sunderland South constituency (43.3%); the lowest in Birmingham Perry Bar (7.4%)
By:
aaronh
When: 20 Jun 19 12:53

Jun 20, 2019 -- 12:51AM, Torquemada wrote:


I’ll admit that I am quite surprised to learn that postal votes favour elderly, Conservative voters. The elderly, Conservative voters I know are not only resolute in their convictions, they’re also a damned sight more hardy in their determination to make it to the polling station come rain or shine than most youngsters.


How is old people using postal votes more in any way surprising???

By:
treetop
When: 20 Jun 19 23:10
I think torque just explained that if you read your post again.
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Jun 19 12:00
All opinion polls (pre Brexit Party!) always have support for the Conservative party higher as it goes up the age scales. Apparently the average age of members that will vote in the upcoming leadership election is around seventy. Sadly, simple facts of life are as we get older, we are less healthy and mobile. However, elderly folks are much more likely to be guaranteed to vote. Put the two together and that explains why postal votes favour Conservatives in general, coupled with the more rural the constituency,the more conservative it is likely to be.
By:
treetop
When: 21 Jun 19 18:06
Since so many conservatives were refusing to canvass or even vote tory and had transferred to the  Brexit party due to their commitment to Brexit one might have thought the postal votes would have supported Brexit party instead of the larger impact on Labour using that logic pp ? Maybe the ethnic support swung it for Labour then.
By:
lfc1971
When: 21 Jun 19 19:19
Thanks for that little bit of wisdom politics pauper

I didn’t know that
By:
lfc1971
When: 21 Jun 19 19:22
Of course a poastal vote doesn’t favour any party its merely a means of voting ....if used lawfully
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Jun 19 19:37

Jun 21, 2019 -- 6:06PM, treetop wrote:


Since so many conservatives were refusing to canvass or even vote tory and had transferred to the

By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Jun 19 19:38
My comments on postal votes were a generalisation, nothing particularly connected with Peterborough.
By:
lfc1971
When: 21 Jun 19 19:47
sone areas are more prone to voting malpractice  , so generalisations are neither here nor there
By:
aaronh
When: 21 Jun 19 21:02
The proportion of postal voters also differs among English regions: at the 2015 general election, it ranged from 13.4% in the West Midlands to 26% in the North East. The highest proportion of postal voters was found in the Houghton and Sunderland South constituency (43.3%); the lowest in Birmingham Perry Bar (7.4%)

I mean of course I have no clue about the individual constituencies or the actual figures of certain groups in either but if the experts on here were correct, these numbers look a bit odd Wink
By:
DenzilPenberthy
When: 21 Jun 19 21:05
Very odd I don't know anyone from Sunderland who can read.
By:
aaronh
When: 21 Jun 19 21:10
East Midlands 16.8
Eastern 15.4
London 14.8
North East 26.0
North West 18.1
South East 16.0
South West 17.1
West Midlands 13.4
Yorkshire & The Humber 18.0

Houghton & Sunderland South* 43.3 Epping Forest 9.7
Sunderland Central* 41.1 Stoke On Trent Central 9.6
Newcastle Upon Tyne North* 41.0 York Central* 9.6
Washington & Sunderland West* 40.4 Edmonton 9.6
Newcastle Upon Tyne Central* 36.1 Hull West & Hessle* 9.4
Blaydon* 35.8 West Bromwich East 9.2
Stevenage* 33.9 Hull East* 9.1
Jarrow* 33.1 Oxford East 8.8
South Shields* 33.1 Birmingham Yardley 8.8
Altrincham & Sale West* 30.8 Weaver Vale* 8.8
Gateshead* 30.7 Wolverhampton South East 8.7
Don Valley* 30.4 Birmingham Selly Oak 8.3
Newcastle Upon Tyne East* 30.1 Hull North* 8.3
Rushcliffe* 29.6 Birmingham Hodge Hill 8.2
Blackpool North & Cleveleys* 29.5 Birmingham Erdington 8.1
Telford* 29.2 Bury St. Edmunds 8.1
Blyth Valley* 29.1 Sherwood* 8.0
The Wrekin* 29.1 Birmingham Ladywood 7.6
Chorley* 28.6 Halton* 7.4
Doncaster Central* 27.5 Birmingham Perry Barr 7.4

Too much effort to format properly from http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/191861/Plymouth-UKPGE-electoral-data-report-final-WEB.pdf but there's the top 20/bottom 20 side by side. if we can learn anything from it Tongue Out
By:
aaronh
When: 21 Jun 19 21:12
http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/191861/Plymouth-UKPGE-electoral-data-report-final-WEB.pdf

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By:
aaronh
When: 21 Jun 19 21:21
left list is

Labour 14
Conservative 6

right list is
Labour 16
Conservative 4

if I read everything correctly, conclusive stuff Cool
By:
aaronh
When: 21 Jun 19 21:21
w/ 2017 MPs. even though data is for 2015
By:
politicspunter
When: 21 Jun 19 21:30

Jun 21, 2019 -- 9:21PM, aaronh wrote:


left list isLabour 14Conservative 6right list isLabour 16Conservative 4if I read everything correctly, conclusive stuff


What do you think is conclusive?

By:
aaronh
When: 21 Jun 19 21:40
nothing
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