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Respect the Scot vote but not the Brexit vote..deary me
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Blackford of the SNP who have shown no respect for the "sovereignty" of the Scottish electorate in 2014 trying to take the moral high ground about respecting electorates, he's just .. *bites tongue again*.
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Tbh I think there is only one way to solve the Whole Shebang , Let Norn Scotland Wales and England all vote seperately
Norn Vote to remain Let them fooking Crack on with it they resolve their own Issues , Scotland will Remain .. England and Wales Vote, see the Outcome .. This is NO LONGER a United Kingdom |
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There is a possible way, albeit it might be unlikely now way parliament has moved. But they way the Conservatives are moving they are moving to make it less likely, Boris and Raab are already making undeliverable promises in a desperate attempt for the populist vote, but f knows how they will explain how they can't do as they said in a few months.
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Nigel is the man now, has to be at the Leave negotiation table now
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What negotiation table?
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To hold Boris's hand when negotiating Leave with EU
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There won't be any negotiations.
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Between Arthur and Lancelot.
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Boris will be negotiating an A50 extension before he does anything else
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There isn't even time to negotiate another deal, that was a lie in the first place.
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Edwards spaffing all over Leila
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Huw's virility is commendable.
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Shafted by the lot of them
Anyway its obvious our leaders are now the brexit party so we there's no point listening to the likes of Boris etc The government are no longer our leaders |
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@JohnRentoul
Following Following @JohnRentoul More So that's Leave (Brexit, Ukip, Con) 44%, Remain (Lib Dem, Green, ChUK, Nats) 40%, Don't Know (Lab) 14% 12:50 AM - 27 May 2019 big if true |
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The government doesn't even have a majority to govern anyway so bye bye to them
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The Brexit Party who the only say they will have won't even turn up to have that say and will then moan about a lack of influence.
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n88uk give it a rest, you've been trying to peddle that lie all day. Ask yourself this, why would the whole of the House be talking about a no-deal Brexit; IF IT COULDN'T HAPPEN???
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brexit party have been elected as eu meps
therefore will be against the uk getting a good deal, if they accept the principles of democracy they freely espose. |
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I am just trying to help people ultimately. People were literally telling me same sorta rubbish in early March.
They are doing it because they know it's what people want to hear, but it's a con, and you can see how effective it is just from reading this thread. You cannot act against the will of parliament, you will be unable to govern if you do. |
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n88uk
The government/parliament aren't our true leaders, we only listen to the likes of Farage now Any laws made by the government are not to be abided to as they aren't made by our leaders We should all stop paying taxes for a kick off |
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Most that talk in the house is how they STOP no deal Brexit, not how they do it.
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espouse
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farage isnt an mp
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I don't like Farage either to be fair
But the brexit party are our leaders and Farage is the leader of it MP? who are they? we don't listen to them anymore they ain't our elected representatives |
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Farage will do what he does, ie. make noise from the outside.
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Farage, the good shepherd.
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*what he always does
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Yet
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Outside?
What's inside? The house of commons/parliament/government isn't our leadership |
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Think you will find it is. Parliament will decide what happens in this affair, whether it's this parliament is another thing, as a general election is coming more likely all the time, but still it would involve Conservatives voting for one that is far from guaranteed given how much of a disaster it would likely be for them.
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it's like trying to debate with a leprechaun on whizz. Goodnight, I' m off to bed with my Garage pillow & my book on trying to understand politics
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It's no good understanding the politics, that would only be proof of one's insanity.
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We Voted to leave , we have MEP elections with Uknown Brexit PEOPLE ready to take their seats
![]() ![]() ![]() U cannot make it up The whole shebang is at best Comical , But the Blame is with those who from Day 1 did not accept a Democratic Vote And Cameron and his Sidekick Gideon For calling for the Vote in the 1st place .. None of these discussions should even be taking Place .. Its Insane .. A 2nd vote is hardly going to be Overwhelming remain ,if at all , But if it is Remain by a small % , the whole lot will kick off again .. The whole situation is Rediculous .... |
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The Democratic Vote was widely accepted on day 1. It took until about day 500 until it started heavily swinging against it when it became clear it was going to be a shambles.
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No it wasnt , Spanner throwers were at work within Days .. Infact the Vote should not even have taken place without a Leave
Stategy in place ,we needed no planning to stay. The people voted to leave do you actually think a Second vote will lead to an Overwhelming Remain Vote , It will not , The Country is Divided .... |
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"The Democratic Vote was widely accepted on day 1"
FFS it's like listening to someone in a parallel universe. Labour and the SNP have tried to use the vote for their own ends since day 1. Labour trying to look every direction at once, and trying to win a GE out of it. The SNP to get independence. Some in the Tories against it. Since day 1 Westminster has stuck a huge middle finger up at the people who pay their wages. |
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Well I would agree the vote should never taken place without a leave strategy in place, as that was one of the key flaws from the off.
Very few were undermining it from day 1, look at 2017 general election, who was really running on against the referendum, not many, it was only once May took the direction she did with zero consensus from parliament towards the end of 2017 that things started moving rapidly against it. From that point on it was obvious you weren't going to get a Labour Brexit so why would Labour be for it? They are meant to be the opposition, there was zero attempt from the Conservatives to reach a consensus with them until like 2019 when it was feeble at best. |
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The problem was May thinking after the Gina Miller case and then losing her majority in the general election that she could still get away just doing whatever she wanted, that was never going to work when her own party was so divided on Brexit anyway. May set her own hard red lines without zero consensus from parliament and from that point on that road was certain to fail, yet May has managed to the continue the charade for like 18 months. Heck when May originally brought the backstop back in December 2017, it was labelled a triumph in the media, showing how May could get something out of the EU, how times change.
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