Mar 23, 2019 -- 11:47PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:

What I have always struggled with, is the how part if true, if it were accidental death by overdosing on whatever drugs they gave her to try to sleep, how could they have successfully of disposed of the body without any trace or any witness or any discovery since and then step outside the next morning in front of the world's cameras pleaing for help, doesn't make any sense. Not only that, but for years and years after they tried to keep the story in the limelight, books, interviews, court cases etc, you'd think they'd want to get on with their lives if they were guilty, you obviously could say it's a pretence, but that much of a pretence? constantly drawing attention to the disappearance 12 years later? The sheer ease of anyone gaining access to that apartment shouldn't be underestimated either, it was a rented accomodation, I never really heard of past occupants being interviewed/investigated, any one of them could have had a cut key, then there is also the fact it was a ground floor flat, if you were an abductor, you'd not want to be targeting upper levels with an increased chance of being seen/more time to abduct, and it was also right on the outskirts of the complex, easier and quicker to get in and out.If it was an abduction, then they obviously knew full well the parents werent there, as they're were unlikely to go in at that time knowing there's a half decent chance the parents would be there/awake looking after the children. Would be chilling to think they were being watched, any one that worked or frequented the Tapas Bar would also know they'd left their kids alone at night, as they'd seen them around during the day, know how big their group is  and how many of their entourage there were, could have worked out nobody was home looking after them. The Casa Pia scandal highlights why pa3do's target Portgual, laxer laws and generally one of the poorer European countries with a police force not well equipped enough to handle such a large scale investigation, look at the pure amateurish operation they initially carried out, did not seal off the complex, did not seal of the apartment, not for a whole 24 hours and let all and sundry walk in and out. They wouldn't even script that in a film it's so daft.There's no doubt however they are an odd couple, I don't think Gerry ever explained why he said on the bus "I'm not here to f****** enjoy myself?" what was that about? They showed little emotion in the aftermath too, no tears or hysterical behaviour, very unanimated, very robotic even, that's what makes it doubly strange, regarless of whether they were involved or were not involed, they had just lost a 3 year old child, unless you're not human you'd show emotion. The only possible explanation for no emotion would be that they knew for some time they were going to lose her, which would play into the hands of the freemason conspiracies.Doubt anyone will ever know. Same as Ben Needham.

I have some ideas as to how they could have done it but yes, I get how people find it hard to see. But they are usually using as the starting point the information they get from the McCanns, who are obviously going to present a timeline that makes it very difficult to envisage their being able to do this. What people don't stop and think about is how difficult the abduction is with the MCann timeline, or how implausible it is and how wildly different from all other well known child abduction cases. Children being abducted from the place they lived is very,very rare, and the few cases it did happen it was clear the abductor took the child to get them away from the parents, which was not necessary here. 'Stole to order' theories are just fantasy. But most people just figure 'children do get abducted' and are not seeing how unlikely this one is. The case is fascinating because it is a kind of locked room mystery where it is easy to tear down the case for an abduction or a staged crime. The Ben Needham case is less discussed because it is less complex. The McCann case is like The Wallace Murder... ''It was impossible for Wallace to commit the murder and it was impossible for anyone else to have done either'' . So it will be one that always comes around.